Beware of Ron Paul was the word for Governor Romney from Newt Gingrich when the former speaker went on the Sean Hannity radio broadcast Monday. We caught up with it via ABC’s “The Note,” which quoted Mr. Gingrich as warning that the Republican Convention at Tampa could get out of hand. “I think the biggest danger in the short run is that they not think through how they’re going to handle the convention in Tampa, and how they’re going to handle the Ron Paul forces,” Mr. Gingrich said.
What Mr. Gingrich seems to be worried about is the delegates that Congressman Paul is winning through his strategy of dealing with state conventions. The former speaker had just come from the convention at Georgia, where, the Note quoted him as saying, the “‘Ron Paul people’ were out in force’” ......... (NY Sun)
There is a Paulian putsch underway. I have been receiving alarming emails concerning an underhanded, anti-American Paul coup at the GOP convention.
From Virginia: "I'm running for delegate to the RNC convention in Tampa. There is a serious Paulbot infestation in the GOP here in Virginia. I'm spending a lot of time at GOP apparatchik meetings. I've gotten the endorsement of the Conservative Coalition (I was the top vote-getter) and usually that is enough but not this cycle."
I recently touched upon it here: Paulbots Sabatoge Another Republican Caucus -- Atlas Shrugs, but it is much bigger than that. Paul is a dangerous, self-deluded man, and his followers behave like occupy fascists.
I may not have been Romney's first supporter, but I am his last supporter and fierce. I would have preferred someone more conservative, but Romney is going to be the GOP candidate, and next to Obama, Romney is the Ronald Reagan. Obama and Ron Paul would split the freak vote. Paul's putsch must be stopped. Ron Paul supports a nuclear Iran and the abandonment of Israel. What is the RNC doing?
Here is an Atlas reader out West:
There is a very interesting situation going on behind the scenes in the Republican Party state caucuses and the MSM is not reporting it. Ron Paul's followers have taken control of the Republican state committees in Nevada, Alaska, Iowa, Maine and Louisiana and working for more control in upcoming meetings. They have stolen delegates to the upcoming Republican National Convention away from Mitt Romney by following some technical rules.
I don't have cable TV so I don't know if the FOX cable channel is reporting this, but the Fox News web site does not mention it. I do watch the local FOX News station here in Northern Kentucky and this is story quite extraordinary.
One of the regular newsmen on our local FOX station has been reporting that Ron Paul's people have been infiltrating the state caucuses after the primaries and using technical rules to steal Romney delegates. The way that works is that after the primary, the state committee meets to appoint the actual delegates who will attend the national convention. Ron Paul's people have been packing these meetings with majority crowds and getting many of Romney's delegates with simple votes.
Also, this station reports that Ron Paul's people have taken over the Republican state organizations in Iowa, Nevada, Alaska, Maine and Louisiana and have elected new pro-Ron Paul leadership.
If you have time check out the video of tonight's segment. It was a 1/2 hour long special.
One part of the video brings out Rule 38 of the RNC that says delegates to the convention are not bound to vote for a particular candidate. It would seem that Ron Paul is going to try to take the nomination away from Mitt Romney with a floor fight. [...] BTW, this local FOX reporter has stuff from all of the states mentioned including some video of how the Republican state committee in one state (Iowa, I think) tried to prevent the Paul troops from taking control by saying they had to postpone the rest of the meeting and exit the hall. The Paul forces simply voted their majority presence in the parking lot to finish the meeting there and claimed most of the delegates.
And this from a Paulbot site: Upset at GOP National Convention
Reports of Ron Paul’s demise have been greatly exaggerated. While a Monday email sent to reporters regarding Ron Paul’s election strategy has been widely interpreted and spun as the Texas congressman’s withdrawal from the Republican primary– with The Drudge Report running the misleading headline “Paul Out,” and Fox News Channel’s Shep Smith misreporting that Ron Paul is now “out of the race” –the email simply formalized and publicized the Paul campaign’s “guerrilla” delegate strategy of focusing on acquiring delegates instead of making a bid for the popular preference vote in primary states.
If anything, the email signaled that the Paul campaign is more serious than ever about actually winning the Republican Party’s presidential nomination, especially as it comes on the heels of a month-long string of major delegate victories that have bolstered the Ron Paul campaign’s hopes of a brokered convention in Tampa and demonstrated the potential viability of its delegate-focused strategy. After seeing marked results from this strategy, an announcement that the campaign will be pursuing it even more single-mindedly can hardly be interpreted as a retreat.
Last month at IVN, I outlined this strategy:
If the trend continues, and a well-funded, highly-organized, and very energetic Ron Paul campaign continues to sweep up delegates (with a majority of the party’s delegates still up for grabs in large states like California) there is a real and growing possibility that Mitt Romney will not secure enough delegates to win his party’s nomination on the first ballot at the Republican Party convention in Tampa. If this happens, the convention will become a brokered convention and all bound delegates will be “unbound,” allowed to change votes for whichever candidate they choose.
Although it is impossible to determine the actual number without official counts, Paul’s campaign seems quietly self-assured that at this point, many of Mitt Romney’s bound delegates will vote for Ron Paul and hand him the nomination, not because Paul thinks he can charm and persuade them in Tampa, but because the Paul campaign has already stacked each state’s slate of delegates with his own supporters, who have been stealthily getting elected as delegates. There’s no telling how many of Mitt Romney’s currently bound delegates are actually covert Ron Paul supporters ready to turn on a dime after being unbound in a brokered convention and vote for Ron Paul.
Since then, Ron Paul supporters and a few good investigative journalists have been digging deeper into the RNC’s rules for its nominating process on the floor of the national convention in Tampa. What they’ve unearthed is the possibility that Ron Paul doesn’t even need a brokered convention to win the nomination. His covert supporters mentioned in the excerpt above– those who will attend the convention as bound Romney delegates, but who are actually Ron Paul supporters hoping to get past a first ballot– may not be bound to vote for Mitt Romney on the first ballot after all. It’s all in the RNC’s Rule 38, which says:
“No delegate or alternate delegate shall be bound by any attempt of any state or Congressional district to impose the unit rule.”
According to Fox19 Cincinnati’s Ben Swann, citing an article at FairVote.org, Rule 38 has already been interpreted by the RNC’s own legal council to mean that the national party rules do not recognize state laws or procedures that bind delegates to vote for a particular candidate, but that they are free to vote for their individual preference on the floor of the national convention. The issue came up in 2008 when a member of the Utah delegation wanted to vote for Mitt Romney instead of John McCain, to whom Utah’s delegates were bound. Several weeks before the 2008 Republican national convention, Jennifer Sheehan, Legal Council for the RNC, wrote a letter to Nancy Lord, Utah National Committee-Woman, asserting:
“The RNC does not recognize a state’s binding of national delegates, but considers each delegate a free agent who can vote for whoever they choose, and the national convention allows delegates to vote for the individual of their choice, regardless of whether the person’s name is officially placed into nomination or not.”
If this is the case, and again, this is the RNC’s own interpretation of its own rule, with an established and recent precedent (that ironically happened to benefit Mitt Romney in 2008), then Ron Paul may not need to last until the second ballot of a long-shot brokered convention to let loose his stealth delegates. Though their states may have bound them to Romney, once they’re on the convention floor in Tampa, it will be the RNC’s rules that matter and if Paul’s hand is strong enough he could just win his party’s nomination on the first ballot.
Another RNC rule that seems to indicate the primacy of the individual delegate’s preference at the nominating convention is Rule 37, Section (b), which states:
“In the balloting, the vote of each state shall be announced by the chairman of such state’s delegation, or his or her designee; and in case the vote of any state shall be divided, the chairman shall announce the number of votes for each candidate, or for or against any proposition; but if exception is taken by any delegate from that state to the correctness of such announcement by the chairman of that delegation, the chairman of the convention shall direct the roll of members of such delegation to be called, and the result shall be recorded in accordance with the vote of the several delegates in such delegation.”
The final say here seems to be with the will of the individual delegate on the floor, not with the delegate’s state, nor even with the chairman of the state’s delegation to the convention.
If Ron Paul’s supporters outnumber the other delegates in Tampa, he seems to have the parliamentary grounds for a first ballot upset and a primary victory– no brokered convention necessary. If it comes to this, the Romney camp will, no doubt, challenge the convention result. It’s a fight that could end up in the courts. Legally, which would take precedent over the other, the RNC’s rules or state laws that bind delegates to vote for certain candidates on the first ballot of the convention?
As IVN’s Kymberly Bays recently reported, this exact question has already been resolved at the US Supreme Court level: the national party’s rules take precedence over state laws because as a private organization and free association of individuals, a political party has the constitutional right to set its own rules and state laws interfering with that private process violate a political party’s First Amendment rights.
The Monday email is no mystery then– if Ron Paul could win his party’s nomination simply by having enough of his energetic supporters become delegates from their state, why would he spend millions of dollars on radio and television ad purchases to win what amounts to an inconsequential straw poll?
If all this is true then the Republican National Convention is going to be a very lively affair to watch on TV.
UPDATE: More coming in:
I just saw your post regarding Ron Paul, and I can't emphasize to you enough just how dangerous these Paulbots are. I witnessed their behavior firsthand at my district convention, and they are organized and single-minded in their desire to get Paul elected. They have infiltrated every State that has a caucus system. They took over Minnesota and won something like 22 of 25 districts, and they got their nominee voted in as the U.S. Senate candidate(Kurt Bills, a high school economics teacher with only 18 months experience as a State congressman).
They will NOT vote for Romney, no matter what. I talked to them. I interacted with them. They are a full blown CULT.
I don't know how many States have "caucus" elections, but there is a strong possibility that they will give Romney a run for his money at the national convention. They do not care about the Republican party. They only care about one thing: Ron Paul.
I tried to warn people two months ago, but no one listened to me. They swarmed HillBuzz after I posted my article, and overwhelmed the servers, temporarily shutting down the site for half a day.
Oh, and I followed the tweets of Republicans at the Minnesota convention last weekend, and one man said that when the speakers onstage talked about Romney or Israel, the Paulbots BOOED.
The Republican party needs to remove the caucus system from States. Period. Unless and until they do that, ANY cult-like group could take over the party, be it Ron Paul fans or something even worse, like the Black Panthers or the KKK. I kid you not!
UPDATE: And this:
.I live in Las Cruces which is the second largest city in the state and the Ron Paulers are taking over all the conservative groups especially the Tea Parties. Most of them are college students and their primary goal has been to get delegates not to appeal to the general public.
I contribute to a radio program in the state and we have had Paul's groups on the show. The college students from our city are working with other college students across the state and country to become delegates. Now our county just picked our delegates to go to state convention and 52 of our 62 delegates went to Ron Paul. Their first goal was 75 in the state so they are way ahead of schedule and from what I can tell this is a nationwide trend.
What I do know is the Paulites will stop at nothing to see their agenda pushed through. They may say they stand for the constitution but they would stomp it in a second if it would get Paul into office.
One other detail, most of the Paulites here are "free state republic" members as well. Talk about an insane group.