As the point of no return draws closer:
Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak said Thursday that time was running out for action against the Iranian nuclear program before it became immune to physical attack, and that dealing with a nuclear Iran would be more difficult than stopping [...] its drive to build an atomic bomb. (here)
Why would the Obama administration betray our closest ally in The Middle East? Once again, Obama sides with our mortal enemies, a cornerstone of his foreign policy meticulously detailed in my book, The Post-American Presidency: The Obama Administration's War on America. This is consistent with the same anti-America, anti-freedom, pro-jihad platform we have suffered the last three years.
'Panetta believes Israel will strike Iran soon'UPDATE: Douglas Murray on Israel and Nuclear Iran:US defense secretary estimates Israel likely to strike Iran between April and June – before it reaches 'zone of immunity' in development of nuclear bomb, Washington Post columnist David Ignatius says
Yitzhak Benhorin
US Defense Secretary Leon Panetta believes that Israel is likely to strike Iran in the coming months, Washington Post columnist David Ignatius said Thursday.
"Panetta believes there is strong likelihood that Israel will strike Iran in April, May or June – before Iran enters what Israelis described as a “zone of immunity” to commence building a nuclear bomb," Ignatius wrote.
Asked by journalists whether he disputes the report, Panetta said, "No, I'm just not commenting."
He added, "What I think and what I view, I consider that to be an area that belongs to me and nobody else."
He noted that Israel has stated publicly that it is considering military action against Iran, adding that US has "indicated our concerns."
Panetta, along with US President Barack Obama warned Israeli officials against opting for a military offensive in Iran, saying it would jeopardize the international sanctions program and other non-military efforts to stop Iran from crossing the nuclear "red line."
Even so, Ignatius claimed that senior officials in the Obama administration have yet to decide how to respond if an Israeli military strike materializes.
The columnist states that "Israeli leaders are said to accept, and even welcome, the prospect of going it alone and demonstrating their resolve at a time when their security is undermined by the 'Arab Spring'."
Another strike in a few years
The Israeli scenario, according to Ignatius, is a five day limited offensive, followed by a UN-brokered ceasefire. The relatively light damage that is expected to be inflicted on Iranian nuclear facilities will require Israel to stage another offensive a few years down the line.
Ignatius notes that American officials see two possible options to dissuade Israel from attacking: Serious talks with Iran – including full access and supervision over its nuclear program – or increased US covert operations that will undermine the nuclear program to the extent that Israel is convinced an attack is no longer necessary.
However, such options might be in vein because Prime Minister Netanyahu has already made a decision to attack in the next six months, Ignatius claims.
Meanwhile, Defense Minister Ehud Barak on Thursday said that if sanctions are unsuccessful in compelling Iran to abandon its nuclear program, the international community will have to examine other options.
"There is a global understanding that if the sanctions don't achieve the coveted goal of stopping the Iranian military nuclear program, an operation would have to be considered," he said at the Herzliya Conference.





Where, oh, where, are the Douglas Murrays of America? Anything like his speech being given at Yale, or Harvard, or Princeton? I very much doubt it. It would be deemed "hate speech."
Posted by: Edward Cline | Thursday, February 02, 2012 at 07:57 PM
Why Would Obama Broadcast Israeli Attack on Iran's Nuclear Weapons Program in Iran?
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That's an easy one. He's an evil son of a bitch who hates Israel. In his heart he's a Muslim. His middle name is Hussein. He sat, and listened to a professional scatologist for twenty years.
I could go on, but I won't.
Posted by: MA02169 | Thursday, February 02, 2012 at 07:59 PM
The islamo-fascist alliance against Good & Holiness: who better to lead each than ahmadinejihad and barak hussein?
Israel is the goal, the end, the final battle.
Israel, please G-d, distance yourself from this rasha, take the known hit now and strike. Don't wait for, don't expect, don't hope, and most of all don't trust the US for ANYTHING.
Israel: You are truly alone this time.
Posted by: T. Rex | Thursday, February 02, 2012 at 08:13 PM
Obama is Muslim and has firmly stated time and time again he will always stand by Muslims. Is he aware that he is detested by Islamic countries? Is he aware his foreign policies are a joke and the world is laughing at him while plotting to strike while America is weak under his "leadership"?
I hope Israel is smart enough to not share any military tactics with the traitor that is Obama. Harper stands by our ally, Israel. Obama wants Israel gone, which he is working towards by handing over the Middle East to the Muslim Brotherhood ("moderate" - just like those peaceful moderate Nazi's).
Posted by: Chrissy Lee | Thursday, February 02, 2012 at 08:16 PM
I may be in the minority on this one (and that's fine with me), but I believe Iran should be completely destroyed whether or not they currently have or are trying to acquire nuclear weapons. Civilization can neither progress nor maintain its humble achievements while Muslims dwell upon the earth that God made for his children.
Muslims are just as dangerous with or without nuclear weapons because they will use everything at their disposal to harm humanity. It's their collective psychosis, their evil state of mind that delineates their threat - not the means they currently have at their disposal to destroy civilization according to that psychosis. Pretending they have crossed some imaginary line and become extra intolerable by dabbling with nuclear physics is like hating the devil more because he sets his pitchfork down and picks up a spear gun.
The Muslim threat to humanity is existential and does not change or grow with its variable machinations. In the stone age they would throw rocks, in the iron age they would swing the sword, in the space age they would split atoms. But the real threat Muslims pose stems from their ideas! The real threat of Muslims is not that they wage Jihad (whatever the hell that means); it's that they wage Islam!
This war was started on paper and with words by one delusional and persuasive madman. It is maintained with hateful and irrepressible thoughts. Don't become distracted by the details. Nukes don't matter. It's the demonic cult indoctrination alone that matters. Take the nukes away from Islam and the indoctrination will remain to compel Islam's death cult members to reach for any weapon and use it in the most evil way possible at any given time, in any given age of mankind.
We sentient human beings owe it to ourselves as a race to nuke Iran and every Muslim country on the face of the Earth out of existence. They simply must go away.
If Muslims had nukes and Christians and Jews did not, do you think they would hesitate for one second to nuke us out of existence? Our higher principles have restrained us from annihilating these devils, though it's perfectly justifiable, while those very devils would annihilate the innocent without just cause. Therefore, we do not become as evil as them by doing to them what they would quickly do to us. The difference is that between righteous defense of humanity and sinister offense to the same. Good eradicating evil is not a despicable reciprocation of evil eradicating good - it is a good in itself!
It's time for this ludicrous policy of restraint to end. I call upon the United States government and the government of Israel to nuke every Muslim nation on earth without warning or terms for peace as a global policy of pacification. Every Muslim is a time bomb on two legs. Together they are much worse than any nuclear arsenal within the physicist's imagination.
Repeat: Nuke Iran now! Do it now!
This message has been brought to you by The World Coalition For Peace And Harmony On The Expedited Plan. Have a nice day!
Keith Mahone, aka Charles Martel
Posted by: KeithMahone (aka Charles Martel) | Thursday, February 02, 2012 at 08:17 PM
Great respect for this man, Douglas Murray. For a moment I thought I was listening to one of the famous speeches of that other great British Statesman and visionary, Winston Churchill. What a delight to hear the truth -the whole truth and nothing but the truth- put so eloquently and intelligently.
I thought people like that were extinct. I hope the Israelis attack soon, and extremely hard. Thank God for Israel indeed!
Posted by: InfidelForLife | Thursday, February 02, 2012 at 08:17 PM
I grew up in suburban northern NJ during the 60's and 70's as a second-generation Dutch-American and had many Jewish and Italian friends. I've also served our country in the USAF, even as a civilian I supported the US Army in Dhahran during Desert Shield/Storm. I've kept in touch with some of those Jewish friends, a few living in Israel right now.
We've been corresponding a lot via e-mail and I've had to tell them that I have never, ever been so ashamed of being as american as I am right now. The level of their sense of betrayal is indescribable. Some even go so far as wishing me final farewells since they do not anticiapte making it to the end of the year.
Even as an american with what might be considered a normal amount of patriotism, I feel equally betrayed by our current administration. This is not the america I grew up in and certainly not the america I want my children to inherit.
Nuff said.
Posted by: Jerryj26.wordpress.com | Thursday, February 02, 2012 at 08:56 PM
@ Keith, very well said. You are not alone. History teaches us Muslims are not to be trusted, are incapable of integrating, and their ultimate goal is to wipe-out the nonbelievers (or subjugate, a slower way to kill us infidels). The Koran is their war book and they are following it to the letter. There is no moderate Islam, or a democratically compatible Islam. Islam is Sharia Law, which doesn't bode well for the rest of us. It is suicide on our part to welcome them to our countries...mass deportation followed by preemptive strikes is a reasonable solution. Perhaps the only solution. They certainly aren't hesitating to cleanse their countries of us, why are we so kind to them?
Posted by: Chrissy Lee | Thursday, February 02, 2012 at 09:32 PM
Obama is a traitor.
Posted by: Guy Macher | Thursday, February 02, 2012 at 09:46 PM
Bravo Mr. Murray! Have'nt heard a Statesman like that for decades. MAO2169, exactly right, that POS occupying the white house and his suck-ups gotta go!!!! Anyone but obama in 2012!!!!
Posted by: Nat's daughter | Thursday, February 02, 2012 at 09:47 PM
I read the article by Ignatius and he said, "Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak may have signaled the prospect of an Israeli attack soon when he asked last month to postpone a planned U.S.-Israel military exercise that would culminate in a live-fire phase in May. Barak apologized that Israel couldn’t devote the resources to the annual exercise this spring."
From that Ignatius deduces an attack. I didn't see anything about Panetta except his refusal to comment. So where does the article from Ynet get its info?
Posted by: Jamadagnii | Thursday, February 02, 2012 at 09:52 PM
When Ehud Barak starts sounding good, you know your country is in trouble.
Posted by: Marylou | Thursday, February 02, 2012 at 09:52 PM
Obama, the affirmative action Hitler (a more incompetent copy of the original), is not doing the destruction of nearly six million Jews by himself. As is his wont, this phony Messiah is leading from behind and hoping Iran will do his dirty work.
Posted by: Underzog | Thursday, February 02, 2012 at 11:38 PM
THIS IS WHY http://www.worldnewstribune.com/2012/01/31/obama-taking-irans-side-on-damages-from-83-bombing-that-killed-241-marines/
Posted by: drew | Friday, February 03, 2012 at 01:09 AM
I feel such a revulsion for him; and a profound disapproval that I don't even know where to begin. Thank God for Israel; and Thank God they know this man very very well. God Bless and Protect Israel and keep her safe from all those who want Her Destroyed including him.
Posted by: Elaine | Friday, February 03, 2012 at 03:18 AM
Dear friends. Obama is not a traitor, he is just following a secret agenda: step by step, slice by slice. Nothing new with that. Don´t you see it? He is faithfully following the dictates on his agenda. The only problem is that his agenda doesn't coincide with the USA's agenda! As simple as that!
Posted by: Paladion | Friday, February 03, 2012 at 04:01 AM
Obama/Panetta are thinking ahead. They are afraid that Israel may be able to defend herself and they are hoping that Iran and Iran's clients, among whom are Syria, Hesballah and Hamas, will be able to destroy Israel if only they step up the (1) hardening of the nuclear weapons facilities in Iran, and (2) increase in the number and range of rockets and other weapons stored in the houses of Gaza and the Lebanese border areas.
So it is essential to spur the Iranian Axis to be prepared for the necessary and inevitable Israeli preemptive strike. Since there is little that Iran can do to speed up the hardening of the nuclear weapons facilities, and since Obama/Panetta know that the Israelis are likely to do great damage to Iran's facilities, including their conventional missile and air power, they must consider the other modes of response.
Because Iran will neither be nuking nor sending many effective long-range missiles or fighter bombers against Israel -- and they certainly won't be rolling tanks over Iraq, Saudi Arabia, or Jordan to get at the Zionist entity -- Obama/Panetta's only hope is that Iran's client 'victims' will launch an all-out attack using their kindergarten missile batteries and kitchen rocket launchers -- that's the proven way to de-fang Israel: make them bomb civilian areas in order to defend themselves. Just think of the mangled children and the glorious propaganda victories for the peace-loving victims of the Zionist aggressors! Watch this excerpt from a presentation by IDF Chief of Genera Staff, Benny Gantz:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqyP09aAWA
I hope I'm wrong about this but I think Obama/Panetta are planning something really evil should Israel actually defend herself on all fronts. Can you spell "humanitarian intervention"?
Posted by: RalphB | Friday, February 03, 2012 at 04:17 AM
"What I think and what I view, I consider that to be an area that belongs to me and nobody else."
yeah - to the extent that you just told the entire world.
Posted by: zemplar | Friday, February 03, 2012 at 04:48 AM
Obama = Hitler Lite
He is Hell bent on bringing about the return of the Islamic Caliphate. The only way that can happen is to reduce America's position as the strongest nation in the world and turning this country into a poverty stricken, third world socialist nation.
Posted by: Bohemond_1096 | Friday, February 03, 2012 at 05:56 AM
Very well said Keith Mahone aka Charles Martel!
I applaud you.
Posted by: Theadora | Friday, February 03, 2012 at 06:48 AM
"whoeevr says 'later' may find 'later' too late." qutie right. we might son have a nuclear bomb attack on our country by Iran. an emp most likely
Posted by: kkkk | Friday, February 03, 2012 at 08:00 AM
The United States government has become truly despicable under Obama and the Left.
Posted by: ahem | Friday, February 03, 2012 at 09:20 AM
"You have a choice between war and an Iran with the bomb. As has been said before, you have a choice between war and dishonor. You will choose dishonor this evening and you will get war."
"Thank God this does not rely on you or any Europeans because you've made the same mistake before and nobody should trust you to get it right this time."
Douglas Murray on Israel and Nuclear Iran
Murray shames the EU and the US Govt with these truths.
Posted by: Carmen | Friday, February 03, 2012 at 10:21 AM
I adore Murray the Fearless. Always intelligent, always articulate and eloquent, always on the ball. A sane voice amidst the insanity. If only there were more brave outspoken souls like him.
Posted by: fern | Friday, February 03, 2012 at 11:12 AM
Israel: Iran's nuclear arms program is complete, its missiles can reach US
DEBKAfile Special Report February 2, 2012, 3:21 PM (GMT+02:00)
Iran has completed the development of a nuclear weapon and awaits nothing more than a sign from Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei to start assembling its first nuclear bomb, said Israeli Military Intelligence Chief Major General Aviv Kochavi on Thursday, February 2. Assembling a bomb would take up to a year, Kochavi estimated. With 100 kilograms of uranium enriched to 20 percent grade and another 4 tons of uranium enriched to 3.5 percent already in stock, Iran would need another two years to make four nuclear bombs.
Therefore, by the end of 2012 or early 2013 Iran may have a single nuclear bomb, but by 2015 the figure would jump to four or five. more here http://debka.com/article/21700/
Posted by: fern | Friday, February 03, 2012 at 11:37 AM
Israel should have gone ahead before the 'point of no return', and not listened to the traitorous Obama and his minions. Israel doesn't have a ally in Obama nor Obama's sock puppet Panetta (nor in the unelected ConLib traitors in the UK, lets stop kidding ourselves), so Israel should do what they feel is right to protect their country and civilians, cos no one else will!
Posted by: fern | Friday, February 03, 2012 at 11:45 AM
[snip from the Debka link above] Today, thanks to Kochavi and Yadlin, we know that the US National Intelligence Estimate of 2007 accepted by the Bush administration was wrong. Its main finding was that Iran had discontinued its military nuclear program in 2003. For five years, Western intelligence officials have given out misleading estimates to save their governments having to pursue direct action for preempting a nuclear Iran.
Exactly.
Posted by: fern | Friday, February 03, 2012 at 11:50 AM
John Bolton: Sanctions Against Iran Didn’t Have Any Effect For The Past 7 http://youtu.be/XA391mA5a0kars
Posted by: fern | Friday, February 03, 2012 at 11:54 AM
Obama is a MUSLIM sympathizer
and always will be!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: karl anglin | Friday, February 03, 2012 at 03:25 PM
TO ANSWER PAM'S QUESTION
Taking the advice of Zbigniew Brzezinski the Obama administration shot down Israel's warplanes before they took off to bomb Iran.
Posted by: ApolloSpeaks | Friday, February 03, 2012 at 07:00 PM
Karl, you can leave off the word "sympathizer".
Posted by: Nat's daughter | Friday, February 03, 2012 at 09:31 PM
"I hope I'm wrong about this but I think Obama/Panetta are planning something really evil should Israel actually defend herself on all fronts. Can you spell "humanitarian intervention"?"
@ RalphB;
Yes, that's the Samantha Power option where US troops are inserted between the Pali's and the Israeli's. Good lord, she's just evil.
@ ApolloSpeaks;
Yep, ZBig's idea of shooting down an ally is one of the scenarios I was envisioning. That Obama would order US planes to shoot down Israeli pilots is just astounding and disgusting.
However, while I can envision President HopeNChange and his cabal of anti-semite lefties and Muslims doing both the invasion and shootdown, I suspect that because this is an election year, Obama can't totally come out against Israel without losing the rest of whatever Jewish vote he hasn't pissed off. Not yet at least.
For Obama, the sequence of events in this election year is crucial.
Every intelligence group estimates that Iran will have a operational deliverable nuclear weapon within one year. That seems to be the last window of opportunity for Israel to attack and nip Iran's nuclear program for a while. For Obama this is hugely inconvenient because of the 2012 election in November. An Israeli attack now, in March, April, May, or June, does nothing to benefit Obama, especially if Iran has the capability to conduct terrorist and assassination operations on US soil as acts of retaliation for a Israeli airstrike. The Iranian acts of retaliation on US soil & targets post-Israeli attack force Obama to commit US forces to attacking Iran which will lead to 6 or more months of airstrikes, military ops, etc. Should that start in March/April/May that means that by the November election, Americans will be involved in another costly war that will appear to be dragging on, just like Afghanistan, Iraq, and Libya. Even if that war gives Obama the appearance of a strong aggressive president instead of a appeasing lefty, it does little to improve his standing among a war-weary American public who might balk at the prospect of another prolonged war. Not much HopeNChange from the guy who promised unicorns, puppies, kittens, waters receding, and healing the planet.
However, if Israel is merely forced to postpone a strike within that one year window, thanks to Panetta & Obama 'outing' Israel, then the timing of a August/September/October Israeli airstrike, and subsequent US entry into the war may very well seem to benefit Obama.
Let's say Israel does attack Iran in September/October. The Iranians then strike against the US on US soil via terrorists & assassins in sleeper cells. That changes everything especially in the run-up to the presidential election. Obama is forced to declare war against Iran, the country rallies, at least immediately, and in Obama gets a election bump, enough to put him over the top against the GOP candidate, likely Romney. A war-time president is a tough thing to defeat for any challenger, even more so for a guy like Romney with no military experience-his claim for being the most electable guy is due to his time as CEO at a time of financial duress, not a military leader.
The other scenario, is that if Iran is successfully able to pull off domestic terrorist acts and assassinations, then Obama as president has a legitimate reason to call for a postponement of the presidential elections, even martial law. Especially if Obama is doing poorly in the pre-election polls. At least until 'domestic security has been established, especially for the voters.' And because it is wartime, Republicans have a hell of a harder time questioning him on the indefinite postponement of elections. Thus Obama gets his 2nd term without being re-elected.
Look, I realize this ventures on 'conspiracy theory' territory, but these are extraordinary times, and we have a Chicago-thug president who is willing to 'never let a crisis go to waste.' Whether he's likely to win, in a close race, or behind and desperate, whatever the situation, Obama & Co will do everything to benefit from that situation.
What is almost certain is that if Obama is elected he will in his second term, absolutely screw over Israel. Whether he invokes the 'Samantha Power Option' and puts US troops to protect the Pali's, or the ZBig option and shoots down Israeli planes on their way to attack Iran, or merely undermines Israel and enables the surrounding Muslim nations like Egypt with Iran, Syria, Hezbollah, Hamas, etc. to attack Israel the result is the same desired for Obama & co. eg the destruction of Israel.
The only real question to be answered for Obama, is how can he benefit from any of the above scenarios.
God help us all.
Posted by: JamestheFin | Saturday, February 04, 2012 at 04:17 AM
@JamestheFin
Obama wouldn't dare act on ZB's advice and shoot down Israeli warplanes once they're en route to Iran. As most of the US public is pro-Israel such an action would be politically suicidal. But it looks like he and Panetta are trying to do the next best and politically safer thing: preempt an Israeli attack before it gets underway by compromising (shooting down) the mission.
Posted by: ApolloSpeaks | Saturday, February 04, 2012 at 05:51 AM
Never FORGET
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
[link to www.gtr5.com]
The Israeli forces attacked without warning and without attempting to contact us. Thirty four Americans were killed in the attack and another 174 were wounded. The ship, a $40-million dollar state-of-the-art signals intelligence platform, was later declared unsalvageable and sold for scrap.
Posted by: Neturei Karta | Saturday, February 04, 2012 at 07:46 AM
NATUREI KARTA
Disgrace to the Jewish race.
Posted by: ApolloSpeaks | Saturday, February 04, 2012 at 12:44 PM
@ApolloSpeaks,
I agree, the ZBig option is highly improbable, but not impossible and you're correct, it is far more likely that Obama & Co., would just compromise an Israeli mission and let the Iranians do his dirty work to destroy the Iranians. Which is what I fear a 2nd Obama term would entail-the abandonment and undermining of Israel-its defense, its economy, its political and diplomatic standing to the point where it is so weakened that the Muslim states surrounding it feel confident enough to attack it. Obama doesn't need to put US troops in harms way or attack Israeli airfighters, all he need do is 'wash the US's hands' of Israel and set them up for attack.
As I stated, God help us all.
Posted by: JamestheFin | Saturday, February 04, 2012 at 03:56 PM