It was interesting to see the beclowned Red State, Ace (pronounced ass, I am sure), and the increasingly irrelevant Commentary jump all over me because I exposed Rick Perry's dawah curriculum served up to our young children in the public schools of Texas. It's telling that the "leading lights" of the rightwing blogosphere were so eager to rip me, to the point of journalistic malpractice, without so much as a cursory look at the evidence. Commentary is soft, we know, but did they throw research out along with integrity? Shame on Alana Goodman.
The vicious attacks were remarkable. First, because up until now, they have never linked to my work. Not my groundbreaking story on Obama's foreign contributions (thousands from Gaza), credit fraud and illegal campaign contributions, or the Rifqa Bary ten million dollar lawsuit against free speech, or our Ground Zero mosque protests (where tens of thousands of patriots joined us to protest the victory mosque) or the Aqsa Parvez Grove in memory of honor killing victims. I naively assumed that they didn't report on such things because they were afraid to touch jihad. It is a dirty business, and your name, reputation get sullied daily. Few (if any) of the bigger blogs do it.
So imagine my surprise when these big blogs went postal when I exposed Rick Perry's dangerous dawah in the Texas public schools. Not only did they shoot first; they didn't ask questions later.
Let me state first that Ace and I do not get along. The first time I met Ace was at CPAC 2007. When Ace was introduced to me, the first thing he ever said to me was, "You got nice jugs." True story. Needless to say, it was the last time I ever spoke to him. But bad manners and misogyny aside, his Pam Gellar [sic] post was wrong, nasty and ugly. Do the research and make a case. No, instead he took the shoddy work of some no-name asshat trying to make his bones on this controversy, and ran wild with it.
Funny that "Ace" (heh) should equate me with Charles Johnson, when in fact Johnson has gone after me relentlessly, for years, trying to destroy me with libel and defamation. And Ace stuck with him long after it was evident that Johnson had turned and began systematically seeking to destroy all the effective voices on the right. Ace stood with Charles Johnson until the very end. Ace and Allahpundit were the last hold-outs. It was embarrassing for them. And Ace dares to lump me with his psychic twin.
Someone, somewhere has decided that Perry is the candidate. I have blogged on the strengths and weaknesses of the GOP on the subject of jihad for years. No one so much as yawned. I have pounded Romney on his clueless pandering, when we went so far as to say, "Jihadism Is Not Part of Islam." I criticized Herman Cain for caving to the Muslim Brotherhood. And I applauded Bachmann on her anti-sharia pledge. Nothing. But my exposing of Perry's dangerous pandering unleashed a venomous, rabid rat pack.
Interesting.
I challenge "Ace," Alana Goodman and Moe Lane (Redstate) to actually read the curriculum and not cut and paste one teacher's lesson plan from the erroneous post of David Stein.
In other words, the material David Stein and Ace are quoting as the Perry/Aga Khan curriculum is not actually part of the curriculum at all. What they're quoting is a lesson plan drawn up by one participant in the seminars that the Perry and the Aga Khan sponsored in Texas -- this would be like quoting some high school kid's test answers and passing them off as the official curriculum of the school district. The material Geller quoted, on the other hand, with its multiple whitewashes of the Qur'an, Muhammad, and Islamic history, comes from the Harvard/University of Texas curriculum for the training of teachers using the Perry/Aga Khan material.
Robert Spencer has studied the cached pages of the curriculum (they were taken down after I posted on them). What are the guilty hiding?
The Perry/Aga Khan curriculum: Ace folds, presents as the curriculum material that isn't the curriculum at all Robert Spencer, Jihad WatchPamela Geller and I are catching hell all over for criticizing the Perry/Aga Khan curriculum about Islam in Texas schools, but here's the thing: the material that David Stein and the Ace of Spades blog are quoting as the Perry/Aga Khan curriculum is not actually part of the curriculum at all.
Ace of Spades is one of those juvenile, leering fratboy blogs that has never appealed to me. The first time this was sent to me, I took a look, saw how inaccurate, fact-free, and contemptuous (to say nothing of contemptible) the presentation was, and hadn't intended to reply. Ace can't even spell Pamela Geller's name right. But as the strange attempt to shut down all skepticism about Rick Perry continues, and people keep sending Ace's post to me, and pointing out that it is being picked up all over, so here goes. And Pamela Geller smacks down Ace here. "So.... Yeah... The New Smear Is That Rick Perry Is a Dhimmi, Huh?," from Ace of Spades, August 26 (thanks to all who sent this in):
Pam Gellar [sic], relying on a hot tip from, um, Salon, thinks Rick Perry's a dhimmi.Salon did report on Perry's connection to the Aga Khan. But the Perry bots keep breathlessly repeating that "Geller relied on Salon!" as if Salon's hard-Left pseudo-journalist Justin Elliott were the only source for the connection between Perry and the Aga Khan. Unfortunately, that is not the case; if it were, the Perry/Aga Khan ties could easily be dismissed as Leftist propaganda. But they can't, and Ace and the others who try to dismiss or downplay the Perry/Aga Khan ties by saying that Geller got it from Salon know they can't -- there are too many other sources besides Salon. So why do they keep bringing up Salon? To manipulate you into thinking that Leftist propaganda is all there is to this. In playing that kind of shell game, they're no better than the Center for American Progress.
Ace is mightily enthused about David Stein's purported refutation of the problems that Pamela Geller and I have raised about Perry, and to which I responded in part here. Ace calls it "the greatest rejoinder in the history of blogdom." It is, in fact, considerably less than that; if Ace had done anything more than take it at face value and accept its claims uncritically, he would have discovered that quickly.
Ace claims that Stein has shown that "the 'dhimmi' curriculum that was actually produced by Texas teachers consulting with Aga Khan is...going to hurt Perry, because this is so biased against Muslims it will reinforce perceptions he is some kind of rootin'-tootin' six-gun shooting cowboy yahoo."
One very odd thing about the Aga Khan/Perry curriculum: since this whole brouhaha started, it has been taken offline. It is now available only in cached form here. Why was it taken down? Was the Perry camp embarrassed by the material that Pamela Geller published here, showing it to be a whitewash of Islamic teaching and history? Or was it taken down because it really is, as Ace says, so "biased against Muslims it will reinforce perceptions [Perry] is some kind of rootin'-tootin' six-gun shooting cowboy yahoo"?
Is either option favorable to Perry? If it was taken down because it's a dhimmi whitewash, Perry is tacitly admitting that our criticisms of him were right, and those evaluating Perry should be concerned about his naivete in dealing with the Aga Khan. If it was taken down because it was too honest about Islam and will thus hurt Perry with the dhimmi/Norquist faction of the GOP, Perry is again tacitly admitting that our criticisms of him were right: he is not able or willing to stand up to Norquist and his Islamic supremacist allies. So which is it? What are they hiding? And does it matter? Either way, the deep-sixing of the curriculum proves that we were right about Perry all along.
Ace gets his information from David Stein here. And indeed, the material that Stein presents, and Ace republishes, seems to be great. It speaks honestly about Islamic conquests: "From its early days, Islam reacted aggressively toward its civilized neighbors the Byzantines and the West." It notes that "while Westerners studied Islamic culture, Muslims showed almost no interest in Western culture, remaining ignorant of modernity and its impact."
It even seems to expose Islamic hatred of Israel: "The conflict continues because the West, and the United States specifically, support Israel (an outpost of Western Civilization surrounded by Islamic Civilization), which Muslims generally dislike or hate. Islamic enmity toward Israel is complicated, but hatred of Jews and Israel can be traced at least to the success of Nazi anti-Jewish propaganda starting in 1933."
But Ace is wildly overstating his case when he says, in his typical half-witted beer swiller's lingo, "Are you shitting me? Gellar's [sic] attacking this? This reads like her fucking blog for fuck's sake. In Texas, they're fucking reading 'Atlas Shrugs' to the kids, and Geller's complaining. Maybe it's because she thinks she's owed royalties."
Ace clearly doesn't know the first, foggiest thing about Islam; after all, it's not the name of a porn mag or a brand of beer. If he did, he would recognize that the claim that "Islamic enmity toward Israel is complicated, but hatred of Jews and Israel can be traced at least to the success of Nazi anti-Jewish propaganda starting in 1933" is itself a whitewash. Islamic antisemitism didn't begin in 1933 or come from the Nazis; it's as old as Islam itself, going back to the Qur'an's designation of the Jews as the worst enemies of the Muslims (5:82) and Muhammad's exiles and massacres of the Jews of Arabia. See a full discussion of this question here.
Why does this matter? It's misleading. If you think that Islamic antisemitism is something they picked up from the Nazis after centuries of Islamic tolerance (more on that later), one will tend to think that it is something that is carried lightly among the opponents of Israel, and can be reasoned or negotiated away. This will lead one to support political solutions for the Israeli/Palestinian conflict like land-for-peace that not only cannot and will not work, but weaken Israel.
Ace doesn't know anything about Pamela Geller, either, or he would know that she has written about the Qur'anic roots of Islamic antisemitism, and so would recognize that bit about the Nazis making the Muslims antisemitic as a whitewash, also.
This supposedly tough part of the Perry/Aga Khan curriculum, which you can find in full at this cached link here, is actually not at all the Islamorealistic presentation that Ace and Stein claim it to be. It does contain the material that they quote, but note that in all that, and in all the rest of it, there is absolutely nothing about the Qur'an's or Muhammad's exhortations to violence.
Again, why does that matter? Because if you don't identify the root of the problem correctly, you will continually apply the wrong remedies. The idea that Islam is a Religion of Peace that has been hijacked by a tiny minority of extremists has led the U.S. to all sorts of policy errors, foreign and domestic: pouring billions in Pakistan, supporting the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, treating stateside Islamic supremacist groups with ties to Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood as neutral civil rights organizations, etc. If the exhortations to violence and subjugation of unbelievers under Sharia that are contained in Islamic texts and teachings were acknowledged in the public sphere, Muslim groups in the U.S. could be challenged to show what they're doing to teach against such things, and investigated for sedition where appropriate. Instead, law enforcement and government officials constantly trust individuals and groups that are untrustworthy, because they don't understand the smooth ways in which they're being deceived.
Still, all in all, the material Stein presents on the curriculum is fairly good. But there is a curious thing: the picture one gets of curriculum from Geller and from Stein are wildly divergent. Stein claims that this is because Geller quotes from "brief summaries of lengthy training seminars," while he presented the "entire lesson plan." But that's not actually the case. Go to the cached link of the main page for the curriculum. It says this:
In April 2004, the Aga Khan Foundation (AKF) and UT-Austin finalized a grant proposal that created the partnership that became known as the Muslim Histories and Cultures Program (MHC). Much has happened since the inception of the partnership. Creation and implementation of a model was of prime importance. MHC recruited and directly trained 80 teachers affecting approximately 15,150 students of World History and World Geography in ten key Texas districts during the two sessions conducted in 2005 and 2006. The purpose is two-fold 1) to fulfill Governor Rick Perry's desire to better educate Texas teachers on Muslim topics and 2) to train teachers to use a cultural lens approach to understanding other cultures. Governor Perry was instrumental in getting this program off the ground.It adds -- and note this well -- that "the curriculum for this project was developed at Harvard University and modified at the University of Texas at Austin." Now this is apparently referring to the curriculum for the training of the 80 teachers in the two sessions conducted in 2005 and 2006. And this material is very, very bad. It contains all the material Geller quoted, including a whitewash of Muslim Spain (debunked here) and the use of texts by the likes of Carl Ernst, John Esposito, and Michael Sells. Carl Ernst is the academic propagandist who actually traveled to Tehran in 2008 to accept an award from Iran's genocidally antisemitic President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. John Esposito is a Saudi-funded pseudo-academic who has cooked data about Islamic moderates. Michael Sells produced an edition of the Qur'an that left out all the violent and hateful bits. And they're by no means the only questionable authorities that this curriculum invokes.
But wait a minute. Remember, "the curriculum for this project was developed at Harvard University and modified at the University of Texas at Austin." But Stein claims to present "the curriculum that resulted from the Perry/Khan partnership," and specifically, "the lesson plan that deals with Islam and the West, past and present." Stein says that "the lesson plan was written by Ronald Wiltse," who is "a retired history teacher in San Antonio." But is Wiltse's lesson plan actually part of the Perry/Aga Khan curriculum at all? Only peripherally -- at best. Look back at the main cached page for the curriculum. It says that "MHC recruited and directly trained 80 teachers affecting approximately 15,150 students of World History and World Geography in ten key Texas districts during the two sessions conducted in 2005 and 2006," and that "the responsibilities of the participants are...to create lessons concerning Islamic topics with a 'cultural lens' approach tied to their grade level to share with other teachers."
That's where you find Wiltse's lesson plan: among the lesson plans developed by the 80 teachers who attended these sessions. In other words, the material David Stein and Ace are quoting as the Perry/Aga Khan curriculum is not actually part of the curriculum at all. What they're quoting is a lesson plan drawn up by one participant in the seminars that Perry and the Aga Khan sponsored in Texas -- this would be like quoting some high school kid's test answers and passing them off as the official curriculum of the school district. The material Geller quoted, on the other hand, with its multiple whitewashes of the Qur'an, Muhammad, and Islamic history, comes from the Harvard/University of Texas curriculum for the training of teachers using the Perry/Aga Khan material.
David Stein and Ace are selling the conservative blogosphere a bill of goods. They're quoting a supposedly tough, Islamorealistic lesson plan (that isn't actually all that tough or Islamorealistic in the first place) and passing it off as the official Perry/Aga Khan curriculum, when in fact, it is no more that than a 9th grader's history paper is the official history curriculum for the school district.
Ace then turns to the Grover Norquist business. But here again, neither Ace nor the brains of the outfit, David Stein, deal with the fact that Norquist is clearly much closer to Perry than to other candidates. As I wrote here, "Perry and Grover Norquist held a joint press conference in March 2011. Perry appeared at a fund-raiser for Norquist’s Americans for Tax Reform group. Also, Norquist actively campaigned for Perry back in 2009. Their association is longstanding: Perry was investigated by the Texas Ethics Commission in 2004 for allegations that the Governor illegally used campaign money to finance a trip to Bahamas; the point here is not the allegations, but the fact that along on the Bahamas trip at his own expense was Grover Norquist. Perry and Norquist are clearly not just casual acquaintances." In response, all Stein and Ace have done is point out that other candidates have worked with Norquist, too. Indeed. Which have fundraised for him? Which have vacationed with him? Any of them other than Perry? If so, I will criticize them for it as well.
Ace asks: "Ummm... we're not allowed to talk with Grover Norquist anymore, Pam? Can't sign his anti-tax pledges?" Actually, it's the other way around: is it really necessary to play ball with Norquist in order to come out for cutting taxes? Is there no candidate who will have the courage to endorse his tax policies but distance himself from him because of his Islamic supremacist ties?
But I am not asking these questions of Ace, who is demonstrably dishonest. Take this, for example:
Anyway, Stein at Counter-Contempt makes the point that if even Robert Spencer, gold-star anti-Jihadist, gave Aga Khan a clean bill of health and vouched for him, why should Rick Perry be blamed for similarly thinking he checked out?Now, Aga Khan might actually still check out. There's no actual proof he doesn't. But let's say he does turn out to be just as Geller now alleges.
Stein asks Spencer, "How can you blame Perry for making the same error you did?" To which Spencer just says something like "He's the governor, he should have known."
Actually, I said "something like" this: "I am not entering into partnership with the Aga Khan. If I were, I would certainly vet him thoroughly first, and Perry should have." Is that "He's the governor, he should have known"? I guess for a guy like Ace, it's close enough.
Ace concludes: "This is anti-Jihadism quickly shading into anti-Americanism." So now it's anti-American to be skeptical about Rick Perry because he is too close to the Aga Khan and Grover Norquist? Anti-American to want to vet a candidate and not want the next president to have potentially compromising ties? Have another beer, Ace. Stick to what you're good at.
Meanwhile, Stein's bait-and-switch presentation on the Perry/Aga Khan curriculum has not just fooled a lout like Ace, but people who should know better, like Red State and the reliably dhimmi Commentary. Will they retract their contemptuous sneers and acknowledge they were working on false premises? I won't be holding my breath.
Cached screenshots: http://www.saisd.net/admin/curric/sstudies/mhcp/mhcproject.html But there is a cache of the Texas curriculum still visible at this link, as of a few days ago. And all of the links off the cached page are now dead, but it's easy to retrieve those from the cache too. Just substitute the URL for the dead link (e.g., http://www.saisd.net/admin/curric/sstudies/mhcp/session1.html) into the portion of the cached URL link I posted, starting at http and ending at html. (thanks to Kamala for the cache tip)
Here is the cache on Muhammad (screenshot taken) here:
Prophet Muhammad has become the paradigm, or role model, who is worthy of being emulated. As God’s chosen prophet and messenger, he best embodied how to live a life in accordance with God’s will. In this sense, he and the prophets before him, including Abraham, Moses, Joseph, Jacob and Jesus, are perceived as exemplary muslims
Also disabled from this website: the "About us" page has been cleaned from cache. Must have been some...ugly folks there.
About Us |2007-2008 SAISD Social Studies Department




Thank you for all you do! I felt like a voice in the wilderness about this thing last week. It's good to know that I'm not alone and that someone has my back. In turn, and for what ever good I can do, I have yours. I am posting this everywhere I can.
Posted by: GirlfriendGeek | Saturday, August 27, 2011 at 01:52 PM
Your not alone girlfriend there's an ARMY out here, we just float under the radar :)grrr!
Posted by: Jan Cech | Saturday, August 27, 2011 at 02:14 PM
excellent
Yours in liberty,
Pamela Geller
Editor, Publisher Atlas Shrugs
Executive Director, AFDI/SIOA
Author The Post-American Presidency: The Obama Administration's War on America
Soon to be released: Stop the Islamization of America: A Practical Guide for the Resistance
Posted by: Pamela Geller | Saturday, August 27, 2011 at 02:31 PM
Perry is just the latest game player.
The details will come out sooer or latter.
Where he stands & his beliefs.
You can rely on Obama to find as much dirt as possible.
So anyone trying to cover for any of the Candidates is fruitless.
Posted by: Revnant Dream | Saturday, August 27, 2011 at 03:07 PM
Pamela,
I live in Dallas, Texas, and I would like you to know that I have forwarded the info about the Perry/Aga Khan connection to the local Tea Party groups. Perry is quite popular in Texas but when he decided to run I felt it was my duty to "Vet" him. I was very disappointed to learn of the Aga Khan connection and the indoctrination occurring in the schools my grandchildren attend here in Texas. During the early years just after 9/11, I was very cautious not to judge Islam by the radical few....That was before I studied Islam and understood the teachings of the Koran. When I heard this about Perry I wondered if he too was not educated and thus joined with the so called peaceful Muslims...Not wanting to connect them with the so called radical Muslims and in the spirit of healing he formed this relationship. I could maybe understand that and forgive his lack of knowledge....however, in order to do that I would need to hear him explain this and remedy this and thus far he has not.
The other issue that REALLY bothers me is the "executive order" that he signed back in 2007, bypassing the Texas legislature. The order would require all school age girls be vaccinated with the "Gardasil HPV vaccine". The order was eventually overturned and Perry "now" says it was a mistake. During my research I learned that Perry had some connections of his own. One of Merck’s three lobbyists in Texas at the time was his former chief of staff. And the mother-in-law of a subsequent chief of staff was a state legislator and state director for Women in Government.
I am very disappointed as I wanted to "want" him to run...he has done a good job as Gov. of Texas....but i now have serious reservations. Thank you for your research and I will continue to get the word out so that other Americans can make an INFORMED decision on our next president.
Posted by: Carolyn Martin | Saturday, August 27, 2011 at 04:11 PM
I had a gut feeling that he would get the nomination and then somehow crash and burn in the general election and we would be stuck with another four years of Obama. I'm for Bachmann. The highlight of the Iowa debate was when she got that question about being submissive to her husband. Instead of crying stop the gotcha questions as Newt had done she just hit it out of the ball park and clear into the horsehead nebula. The main difference between her and Sarah Palin is that she would have chewed the likes of Katie Kurick up like the foul tasting sewer weed that she is and spit her out.
Posted by: Warren | Saturday, August 27, 2011 at 05:25 PM
Trouble is that Obama probably will not expose Perry until after he has gotten the nomination. Then we are more likely to be stuck with another four years of Obama.
Posted by: Warren | Saturday, August 27, 2011 at 05:29 PM
I'm sorry to say that it appears Weasel Zippers has taken Aces's side.
Zip called it BS and a brutal takedown.
http://weaselzippers.us/2011/08/26/aces-brutal-takedown-of-the-perry-is-a-dhimmi-stealth-jihadist-bs/
Posted by: silent_rage | Saturday, August 27, 2011 at 06:35 PM
Just knowing that Grover Norquist has endorsed Perry makes me rule out voting for him.
Posted by: Xavier823 | Saturday, August 27, 2011 at 08:34 PM
This is the first time I noticed that the comments to this site
are in reverse order. The last one posted is now at the top.
Posted by: silent_rage | Saturday, August 27, 2011 at 08:48 PM
Pamela --
Since I have been banned (3x) at JihadWatch, I hope you don't mind if I respond every so often here. It's just such a drag getting new e-mail addresses & TypePad accounts...
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@ http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/08/the-first-time-this-was.html#comments
Re: nacazo | August 27, 2011 6:10 PM |
Roxane says:
"I find Geller shrill and unlikeable which makes me want to tune her out.In contrast like a lot of people I find Perry likeable so I would rather believe him then Geller."
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Nacazo says,
"Isn't this the ad-hominem fallacy.
Roxane is saying that if a likeable person tells a lie, she would rather believe the lie than the truth coming from an unlikeable person... we may be in deep trouble if we start getting away from the truth and following lies because they come from a 'likeable' person[.]"
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A bit of history on Roxane -- and why JihadWatch bans me, but allows her/him/it to spew her/his/its bile is beyond me --
Roxane, on one of The Anti-Jihadist's articles about a month ago, was very clear about her disdain for the nation of Israel. That probably extends to all Jews, who would then be tarred and feathered as 'shrill' and unlikeable. She and the Alarmed Pig Farmer even went so far as to propose that all non-Muslim Malaysians go to Israel seeking asylum. As if there is not enough trouble in that postage-stamp-sized country already...
So...Roxane likes Perry, dislikes Israel. Something is amiss and very squirrelly in that "logic." Perry has a network of thugs that are going to put him in the White House. Bet on it. He is the white Obama. You can't stop a [thug] train.
Posted by: Dot | Saturday, August 27, 2011 at 09:24 PM
Warren: The main difference between her and Sarah Palin is that she would have chewed the likes of Katie Kurick up like the foul tasting sewer weed that she is and spit her out.
Yes, Michelle would have chewed out "the foul tasting sewer weed" Katie Couric, who dared to ask Sarah Palin....what newspapers she likes to read. Palin couldn't answer, and somehow Couric became the enemy. "What newspapers do you read?" Cruel, cruel Katie.
Posted by: Richard Burger | Saturday, August 27, 2011 at 09:27 PM
I'm sick and tired of so-called conservatives groveling at the feet of Islamic supremacists and then demonizing those who don't. There are so few people who have the courage to tell the truth about Islam. Obviously, the Perry people have something to hide or they never would have taken down the links. Why the censorship if Pam and Robert are wrong? These cowards are nothing less than modern day Chamberlains and Petains.
Posted by: Giles Blyzzard | Saturday, August 27, 2011 at 09:31 PM
Of course, until the islamonazis can outlaw all criticism of Pisslam, they're going to have to utilize their paid shills to try to invalidate the critics and criticism of Pisslam as well as making death threats to those same critics (e.g. the creators of South Park, Wafa Sultan, Brigitte Gabriel, Pamela and Robert Spencer). Death threats they can seemingly get away with (thanks to US law enforcement and judicial entities doing absolutely NOTHING to arrest the muslimes making death threats to anyone critical of their f'ed up faith of genocidal hatred and antisemitism.).
Posted by: Distract Cornholio | Saturday, August 27, 2011 at 10:39 PM
Sorry about my bad spelling, and perhaps foul tasting sewer weed is a little harsh. But I do believe that Katie Couric is part of that left wing biased media establishment. The point is put in more civil terms is that I believe that Michelle would have been able to handle that question and any other question that Couric could have thrown at her.
On the other hand I feel that we are fighting for the survival of our country and our freedom against those who are determined to turn us into either a Califate or a Marxist Dictatorship. If they think that Marxism is so great, why can't they just move to Cuba or to Venezuela? Why do they have to screw up our country?
Posted by: Warren | Saturday, August 27, 2011 at 11:20 PM
Sad to see the Geller trashed for daring to cite very factual information about Rick Perry. I find his position regarding Islam, and is ties to Norquist to be troubling. I'm glad that Geller brought them to light. I'm more than a little politically aware, and I live in Austin, TX - but this was all news to me.
This isn't really the most troubling thing about Rick Perry. In the final analysis, Perry may lean right on his political posturing, but at his core he is a big Government Statist, that simply prefers State and local Governments administer his brand of totalitarianism and cronyism rather than the Federal brand.
Keep up the good work Pam, if you're so inclined, you wont have to look far to find other examples of Perry's faux "Tea Party" status. His past love fest with Acorn comes to mind, but there are numerous others. That said, if he's the nominee - I'll vote for him, but I damn sure hope the rest of the country learns what they're getting - or I'm going to spend the next four years writing "I told you so" blogs.
Posted by: Ax_D_WhiteMan | Sunday, August 28, 2011 at 12:18 AM
pamela:
hang tough. the truth will out.
john jay
milton freewater, oregon usa
Posted by: jj | Sunday, August 28, 2011 at 12:24 AM
You wrote: "I'm sick and tired of so-called conservatives groveling at the feet of Islamic supremacists and then demonizing those who don't...."
That is how we got Barack Hussein Obama; America's worst nightmare.
Posted by: steve53 | Sunday, August 28, 2011 at 08:42 AM
Hi Pam,
They only fight Jihad when it suits their purposes or goes along their narrative.
Good for you for standing up.
-Pat
Posted by: DetroitRight | Sunday, August 28, 2011 at 08:55 AM
A must read:
http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/Perry-s-long-tenure-is-short-on-particulars-2144659.php
This is also how Redneck Mafia Puppet-in-a-Skirt Nikki Haley operates -- closed to the public -- in the Red State state of South Carolina, where Perry's campaign was "christened" on July 29.
Posted by: Dot | Sunday, August 28, 2011 at 09:41 AM
[correction -- date]
A must read:
http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/Perry-s-long-tenure-is-short-on-particulars-2144659.php
This is also how Redneck Mafia Puppet-in-a-Skirt Nikki Haley operates -- closed to the public -- in RedState South Carolina, where Perry's campaign was "christened" on August 13.
Posted by: Dot | Sunday, August 28, 2011 at 09:47 AM
RICK PERRY IS THE GOVERNOR OF TEXAS , AND AS SUCH SHOULD MAKE CERTAIN THAT NO ISLAMIC TEACHING OCCUR
IN ANY SCHOOL IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. THERE IS NO REQUIREMENT FOR TEACHING BHUDDISM, SHINTOISM, INDIAN
RELIGION, CHRISTIANITY OR ANY OTHER RELIGION OR BELIEF, SO WHY SHOULD THEY TEACH ANYTHING ABOUT ISLAM ?
ISLAM IS NOT A RELIGION ANYWAY, BUT A SINISTER IDEOLOGY DEMANDING COMPLETE BLIND OBEDIENCE TO THE HORRIBLE
SHARIAH LAW. MAYBE PERRY DID NOT STIPULATE THAT SCHOOLS MUST TEACH ISLAMIC STUDIES, BUT HE IS OBLIGATED
TO MAKE CERTAIN THEY ARE NOT REQUIRED.
Posted by: ARNOLD CARL TAPP | Sunday, August 28, 2011 at 11:43 AM
Oh, really?
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2011/04/copy-of-obama-birth-certificate-shown-on-tv----persuade-bachman/1
Note: Contrary to USA Today's report, what The Snuffelupogas presented to Bachman was one of the four versions of Barky's short form COLB that can be found floating around the Internet and not a "birth certificate." If you don't know the different birth documents available from the Hawaii Dept of Health, I suggest World Net Daily as a good place to read up and learn about them.
Bachman can't even stand up to Georgie the Dwarf but you believe she would either chew up and spit out or chew out Couric? Puhleeze.
While I'm at it, redefining "submit" to mean "respect" was anything but brilliant. In fact, it's very similar to what Islam has done. "Islam" means "submit." Yet, Islam has redefined its name to mean "peace."
While it's true that Bachman should never have been asked such a stupid, sexist, "gotcha" question during that debate, and it's also true that she did good to come up with an answer at all and not just stand there, stymied, the answer she gave sucked ass. A better response would have been, "In our house, yes, I submit to my husband. In the people's house, I submit to the people."
Note: This comment is in no way an endorsement for Perry...or Palin or Bachman, either, for that matter. Not one of those three, nor any of the others, either, for that matter, has ever spoken up about Barky's eligibility issues. Therefore, I remain only lukewarm about any and all of them. I'll support whoever the GOP runs against Barky but I'll do so knowing that each and every one of them is lacking
Posted by: AuntieMadder | Sunday, August 28, 2011 at 04:24 PM
WRT to Perry that's a depressing thought. I suppose on the whole (gag) I'd rather see Perry elected, but I don't see him ever beating the 0.
Posted by: Distract Cornholio | Sunday, August 28, 2011 at 04:33 PM
I doubt that. Barky is history. He can't beat a potted ivy in 2012. His only hope is in a strong third-party candidate to split the conservative vote.
Posted by: AuntieMadder | Sunday, August 28, 2011 at 04:38 PM
PAM GELLER NOW FAKING QUOTES!
READ THE FULL TRUTH HERE
here is an excerpt
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Her case consists as follows:
1. What teachers were taught was a dahwah, which is Islamic for "invitation to prayer." That is, she alleges the seminar was actually designed for purposes of religious conversion to Islam.
Here is her evidence for this. From the project's online website, explaining the general purpose of it, she quotes:
"[Quoting the abstract:] Prophet Muhammad has become the paradigm, or role model, who is worthy of being emulated. As God’s chosen prophet and messenger, he best embodied how to live a life in accordance with God’s will. In this sense, he and the prophets before him, including Abraham, Moses, Joseph, Jacob and Jesus, are perceived as exemplary muslims"
[Gellar now, commenting:] The real question is, should our children be taught this steaming pile of propaganda? I would not want that dawah taught to my children in public school. I want a candidate who is up to snuff on this. Ahead of the curve would be ideal, but at least cognizant of it.
So, the project endeavored to teach what Muslims believe, and Geller took this not as flatly saying "Here is what Muslims believe," but as a dahwah, an instruction into what teachers should believe (that is, they should believe Mohammad was a prophet, and Abraham and Jesus were lesser prophets). Presumably then these converts would train their schoolchildren to be Muslims too.
Rather than taking this as what it is -- a simple factual statement about Muslim believe -- Geller insists it is an attempt to convert the dhimmis.
This is obviously wrong -- and obviously stupid -- on its face. Every world history course tells you about the religion of participants in a religious conflict -- if you're reading about French history, you will be told the beliefs of the French Huguenots (Protestants) and the nation they rebelled against (Catholic France).
Such an introduction would not be an attempt to convert the reader to either Huguenotism or Catholicism. But Geller insists this is so when someone mentions the main beliefs of Islam.
In case you think what she quoted actually could read as religious instruction, rather than a factual statement about what Muslims believe -- well, that's because she doctored the quote. She cut out the beginning, in which it made it clear it was simply explaining what millions of Muslims believed.
Here is the actual quote, which she did not indicate had been altered to suit her purposes:
"For millions of Muslims around the world, the Prophet Muhammad has become the paradigm, or role model, who is worthy of being emulated. As God’s chosen prophet and messenger, he best embodied how to live a life in accordance with God’s will. In this sense, he and the prophets before him, including Abraham, Moses, Joseph, Jacob and Jesus, are perceived as exemplary muslims,"
If this material is so transparently Fifth Columnist, why does Ms. Geller need to doctor quotes to discover "dahwahs"? Shouldn't the dahwahs be present in the material without her helpful modifications?
Posted by: Pete Town | Sunday, August 28, 2011 at 04:51 PM
WeaselZippers has been suspect in my book for a long time. They have the same mob patrol tactics as JihadWatch has, which basically allows a real or cyber mob of multiple ID folks (cyber-mobocracy) to run the show -- and WZ also was moderating/deleting my posts left and right there for a while.
Who funds them? Or, who funded them before their apparent current sponsor, Amazon?
Posted by: Dot | Sunday, August 28, 2011 at 05:06 PM
Pamela, you do NOT stand alone! I so admire you for the work you are doing ... for our nation,for all of us! I've been reading in awe all the comments here and other places from people (some totally surprising!)hell-bent on presenting Rick Perry as THE candidate! And we are all supposed to follow suit because 'he is the only one that can beat obama'! And for that reason alone we must compromise in all other sorts of ways! HELL NO! Pamela, what do you know about Sharia law being allowed to make decisions on family court issues, under the guise of the Texas Islamic court?? THAT to me is even WORSE than the curriculum, bad as that is!!
Still hoping to make NY for 9/11..hoping and praying JoJo can help me get there! Keep up the good fight, lovely lady!!
Posted by: Maria Lima | Sunday, August 28, 2011 at 09:35 PM
Pam, does it bother you that you're faking quotes?
Posted by: Crushliberalism | Sunday, August 28, 2011 at 11:31 PM
It's islamonazi propaganda you f'ing TOOL. The slaughter/enslavement of the Jews of Yathrib and Khybar isn't mentioned. Muhammad's molesting a 9 year old girl isn't mentioned. His rabid antisemitism isn't mentioned. The fact he enslaved others isn't mentioned. The fact Islam promotes LYING isn't mentioned. FOAD.
Posted by: Distract Cornholio | Tuesday, August 30, 2011 at 12:21 AM