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It is halal (permitted) for Muslims to kill their children if the child is thought to be on the "wrong path". See the Qur'an - "the Cave" and Moses' journey with the "Green Man" (or "Green One").

Last week I filled out an online email form to the Mayor of Dearborn after he and his prosecuter set out to arrest a Christian minister who was wanting to demonstrate outside the biggest Mosque in America. Told him if he supported Islam, he supported honor killing/murder of children by their own families.

http://www.cityofdearborn.org/component/contact/60-mayors-office/2-mayor

If you want to send him a message regarding this honor killing as an example, bust his worthless butt about this hideous murder.

obviously a freedom of relgion issue

i fully expect the aclu
to defend this pig

Right. And here in the United States we call it first degree murder.

Stupid bitch mother.

how does the devil's EVIL trump G-D BEAUTY ?!?!

'cause the only thing necessary for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing

Wow! What a great smile.

She is a beautiful young woman too! This isn't about 'honor', it's about control/power and false pride. Everything that goes against goodness. Ego against spirit. Satan against God. It's so horrible and by our acceptance of it, it will continue. We must punish harshly and continue using the laws of this country. No other.

Maybe it's just best that the daughters of muslims be removed from their dangerous families when they live in the West, put up for adoption. Merely living with parents with such toxic attitudes (devout islam) should constitute unlawful endangerment.

My God, his address is almost literally in my back yard. I know someone who lives in that apartment complex.

Time to send some letters to the city council.

Talk about boundary issues. Young women aren't extensions of their parents. Yet, their individuality will NEVER be honored by this cult obsession with control of females. Losers.

Anyone else having trouble with Osama's DAUGHTER being in his room in the middle of the night?

Uh....ummm....was there anything else that they all had in common? Was that Mom in the black bag? How could this possibly happen here in the US? Oh it was cultural. I get it now. US Mom, US daughter and where was Step-Dad from? What was his religion? What were the prevailing religious overtones in the house? Was he from Minnesota? Michigan?? "A Michigan man "slapped" his daughter today....." Such a shame that such a beautiful young lady and life should be ended this way.......it's part of the "culture"....get in line and the bag or get "slapped" or stoned or beaten or raped or....it's in the book!

I assume she's a convert. Was the biological father a Muslim?
Time to take that burqa off sister.

This seems to fit a pattern. The girl leaves the family, then is lured back by an extended family member and is then killed.

The girl committed the ultimateb sin in Islam; she didn't accept being his possession.

She wasn't even his real daughter. That dumbass mom needs to take of the bin bag and ditch Islam publicly.

Islam is sick and the PC authorities are just as sick.

So slapped in islam means shot!?

The main stream media will either bury the this story or will spin it as far from Islam as possible.

I went to the house with a gun to show her and her head got in the way---didn't know it was loaded with bullets---can't figure it out---it went off when i pointed it at her head and pulled the trigger---don't know how that happened---sounds like he's innocent to me!---so sad she was only 20 years old! No wonder they have to kidnap others they keep killing their own! can we honor kill him? just asking!

1. She wasn't his child
2. In america we call it murder of an innocent child.

fuck islam. it is a shit religion if these are the things that are taught. We are no longer in the middle ages. In the name of common sense, I denounce the muslim religion as the trash I throw out on sunday night. Barbaric bastards with nothing but cowardice to hide behind religion. these muslim middle east fucks. this whole world uses religion as a crutch and means to justify the end. wake up and small the coffee. put this bastard in jail for the rest of his life. burn the quran and cut his balls off, see where that gets him in the name of his religion. fuck off and die you bastard.

I have just had trouble posting a coment on this site, this is the first time I have had trouble.

My comment on "Sulking on Bin Laden" was:

What to do when top political and military leaders discover that the President is a "Manchurian Candidate", and that his acitions constitute deliberate treason against the country? We are in uncharted waters!

U sick fucking people she was my bestfriend, you dont know the facts about her so keep ur fucking mouths shut. That guy is gonna die in prioson and i hope he rots in hell. No that is not how u raise ur child by doing the things he did to her he was not a parent she didnt give two shits bout him she hated him. A true muslim wouldnt do this it is haram. She wanted to live her life the way she wanted to and there is nothing wrong with that. The head scarf is between u and ALLAH not ur and ur step dad so get ur facts straight ok. BURN IN HELL BITCH.

It is halal to kill your children? Tanstaafl, you have clearly NO knowledge of Islam.

And when Andrea Yates drowned her five children, do we blame Christianity on that? How about you think logically, and realize it has NOTHING to do with the religion, but with someone who is just mental?

Let me be more clear:
That should be lured by a female family member and killed by a male family member.

It's halal to kill any muslim who deliberately strays from shariah..

It's called apostasy, or in this case, post natal abortion.. muslim abortion for allah

mental illness is a nurtured trait of being a muslim..

There is nothing wrong with being an apostate.. from a non-muslim point of view..

what does allah think of apostates?

you should have helped your friend run away.. you should have known it's halal to kill apostates of islam..

you should have known, now you know.. too late to be a real friend now

Yes but the later hadith as recorded by bin rubbish al shithead abrogates this - the new ruling states: "The muslim is banned from the Western countries and now must return to the ancestral land of mohommad".

lts not a game - many have discovered this to their detriment. There are many ways to die and many causes of death, islam creates fatalities just as stomach cancer and bungee jumping create fatalities. Death by islam is much more common than death by shark attack or death by bungee jumping. This vibrant young woman was killed by islam not bungee jumping.

Well tanstaafl in case you haven't noticed you're living in the west and here its murder plain and simple. If you dont want to do the time then don't do the crime. Why is a entire families honor rested on the females shoulders? Where are the mens responsiblities in all this. There is NO HONOR IN TAKING YOUR OWN CHILDS LIFE, IN FACT THAT'S A COWARDLY ACT. WHAT IT IS UN HONORABLE.

There is no need to bring religion into this. No need to disrespect Muslims. I'm a Muslim woman and i don't think that by any means any person should be killed because they were "going down the wrong path". We have Allah to take care of that in the after life. She was a beautiful lady and she did not deserve what was done to her. And he is a coward who is going to get what he deserves.
Yes there are some messed up humans out there ...but not all of us are like that. Do not judge a person or a religion based on what you think you know or what ONE OR SEVERAL INDIVIDUALS HAVE DONE.
Rest in Peace Jessica Mokdad ..AL-FATIHA!!! God bless

.... makes you a better human? "cut his balls off" i think your pretty sick "cousin". you as well need help. well said Heidi. as for you cousin ...you might want to go see a therapist, seems like you may have anger issues ..possibly a mental disease. get well soon.

lets not get of the topic of Jessica and her stepfather that killed her ...Islam didnt kill her.
before you point fingers make sure your hands are clean people. i think its God's ^ job to judge people... leave it to him.
Rest In Peace Jessica Mokdad .....AL-FATIHA

excuse me i did help her an i awlays was a true friend you dont know shit. Im the one that got her to michigan that guy was a syco ok he followed her. How dare u say that. This is not about religon ok a my fried got murdered all u people can talk about is religon. Look at the bigger picture and wake the hell up.

There is good and bad in every culture. Stop judging people because of the religon. First of all this whole problem just was not about the scarf. There is sooo much more that was not said. Im a american girl and my husband is iraqi. The muslim culture is a beautiful culture, some people take it to a limit and are too religous. Wake up its 2011 ok, Stop with the drama and get the facts straight cuz im sitting crying looking at all these comments thinking that everyone is soo cold hearted and mean. Jessica loved being a muslim. Please stop. Jessica was going down the wrong path because she couldnt have a life her step dad locked her in the house she couldnt leave with out her parents with her. Jessica couldnt be a real girl and enjoy friends and life, and this is what i mean by taking it to far.

I know the girl. I know he was a sick bastard and he was molesting her even raping her. she tried to get away numerous times. Im good friends with her mother. This wasnt an "honor killing". This was a sick perverted bastard that wanted this poor girl to himself! HE was a crazy sick person. SHE DID NOT DESERVE THIS!!!

I think he was a biological follower of Mohamed, therefore, a pedophile. Its O.K.
for a muslim, as US judges uphold their religion, but you would be sick to do it.


The religion of rapists, pedophiles, and pieces. What they don't blow up, they burn down.

'cause the only thing necessary for evil to succeed is for good men to tolerate Islam.

Bestfriend... The reason we suggest it was Isl;am is becasue you really only see this kind of behaviour in Muslims.

However, we have an issue with the culturally ingrained behaviour of Muslims as much as with the religion.

Also, don't assume none of us have personal experience of Islam or Muslims. I do.

SHARIA THIS GUY!!!

That is not the real story...it is much deeper than that, there is more to it than what is said,
the girl was a victim of abuse....i will leave it as that...

Im sorry, no i am not a good friend of the mother. I knew Jessica and i know he was an evil man. I just want justice for jessica! Im sorry if i offended anyone. Its just a tragedy and its enraging! RIP Dear!!

This shows the true face of Islam.

The time will come when God will send the Muslims into the sea along with Bin Laden.

That is horrible, and that was actually my first thought when I saw the picture of this beautiful young woman and her barbaric murderer. I suspect that jealous rage by a family member molester who feels he's losing control of his victim one way or another has been responsible for many "honor" killings.

Why shouldn't this information about her sexual abuse be posted in the internet? If this girl was raped by her stepfather, it shames him, not her, and the facts will likely come out in court.

"And when Andrea Yates drowned her five children, do we blame Christianity on that?"

No. We blame postpartum psychosis and the husband/father who was told by the either the ob/gyn or the shrink after Yates had their fourth child and went into postpartum psychosis bad enough to spend some time in the psych ward not to impregnate his wife again because the next time it would be most likely be more severe. The doctor or shrink was right and I'll never understand why the husband/father wasn't charged and prosecuted as an accessory to the murders, or at least for child neglect and endangerment of a child (five counts of each) for leaving their children alone with the wife/mother that he knew was sliding in and out of a psychotic state (or in and out of psychotic states, however it goes) and he knew to be a danger to herself and others when psychotic.

Like metastatic cancer, some things spread.

Duh, yeah the regular honor killings, stonings, floggings and amputation of limbs practiced in Muslim states have nothing to do w/Islam eh?

So you have to spread your Al Taqiyya and Kitman under two different aliases eh? Of course your prophet encouraged you to lie to infidels/kufars -- as well as kill and persecute them.

What is unusual is the total lack of emotion on the part of the mother. Ask any parent how they would feel if they lost their child: they would be curled up on the floor in total agony, eyes swollen, shear will power to speak any word. This woman appears unaffected and enjoys the attention. She states, "I am glad they do not have the death penalty here so he can suffer every day the way she did."(sic) The daughter suffered every day much like rape in prison or did she just suffer in that last blinding second? Could it be the mother appears to be an enabler who knew exactly what was going on and glad that the competition for affection is now gone? Unfortunately, the depths of what this poor child may have suffered may never be known. How convenient. I am glad for no death penalty: this guy will be able to enjoy the best our prison system has to offer.

...this woman appears unaffected...

According to 'The Reliance of the Traveller", m6.1(12) As for a man's wife's daughter (N: from a different husband), she is not unlawful for him to marry...
Remember that when a woman remarries she loses custody of her children in Sharia law. In other words the girls become 'fair game' if they go with their mom into a new marriage. Read it yourself. It seems that step-children have no rights. It may be worth a statistical analysis as to how many so called 'honor killings' have this added feature.
This is how the father and the mother may have been raised. This is very different thinking. She was 'marriageable kin'. The wife has no say in the matter. To us it is sick. Just sayin'

NO DISRESPECT TO YALL BUT THIS IS AMERICA WE DONT DO THAT SHIT HERE. WE HAVE HEARTS OVER THIS WAY

It is just so hard being a proper Muslim in Dar-es-Harb.

I know and I agree. But a stepfather has the same rights over any of the women in his house as does any Muslim male who is head of the household. In Islamic society, the father is responsible for the purity of any woman living in his household. What this sociopathic murder did is Halal in Dar-es-Islam.

I am not a muslim, I am an infidel just like you. I agree completely with what you are saying. I'm just trying to educate folks on the dictates of Islam. My heart goes out to this poor young woman and I feel that her murderer should be punished to the full extent of the law. That (punishing her murderer) would not occur in Dar-es-Islam (The House of Peace).

Yes, it was an honor killing. Only "a sick perverted bastard" would kill his step-daughter. You may extend that description to any Muslim male.

You are misreading me. I fully condemn any murder of a child by their parents. I am trying to point out that under Islam, the stepfather would get away with this crime.

Was she a muslimah? Than like all muslimahs, it is halal for her father or male guardian to abuse her. Yes, sexually as well as physically.

Oh, the taquiyya starts early, doesn't it? Gentle readers, it is halal for muslims to practice taquiyya, which is a kind of "sacred lying" (that's a poor definition, I know). If Amenah feels that she can advance Islam by lying, it is Halal (permitted) for her to do so.

Amenah - the green one is in the Qur'an. Try reading it before you practice taquiyya.

From Wikipedia (not the best source, but accurate in this instance.

Quranic narrative

In chapter 18, verses 65-82, Moses meets Khiḍr, referred in the Quran as "one from among Our servants whom We had granted mercy from Us and whom We had taught knowledge from Ourselves",[8] at the junction of the two seas and asks for permission to accompany him so Moses can learn "right knowledge of what [he has] been taught".[9] Khiḍr, realizing that Moses had the Torah and divine knowledge to draw upon, informs him in a stern manner that their knowledge is of different nature and that "Surely you [Moses] cannot have patience with me. And how canst thou have patience about things about which thy understanding is not complete?"[10] Moses promised to be patient and obey Khiḍr, and they set out together. After they board a ship, Khiḍr damages the vessel. Forgetting his oath to follow quietly, Moses says, "Have you made a hole in it to drown its inmates? Certainly you have done a grievous thing." Khiḍr reminds Moses of his warning, "Did I not say that you will not be able to have patience with me?" and Moses pleads not to be rebuked.
Next, Khiḍr murders a young man. Moses again cries out in astonishment and dismay, and again Khiḍr reminds Moses of his warning, and Moses promises he will not violate his oath again, and if he did he than he would excuse himself from Khidr's presence. They then proceed to a town where they are denied hospitality. This time, instead of harming anyone or anything, Khiḍr restores a decrepit wall in the village. Yet again Moses is amazed and violates his oath for the third and last time, asking why Khiḍr did not at least exact "some recompense for it!"
Khiḍr replies, "This shall be separation between me and you; now I will inform you of the significance of that with which you could not have patience." Many acts which seem to be evil, malicious or somber, actually were merciful. The boat was damaged to prevent its owners from falling into the hands of "a king who seized every boat by force. ... And as for the boy, his parents were believers and we feared lest he should make disobedience and ingratitude to come upon them." God will replace the child with one better in purity, affection and obedience. As for the restored wall, al-Khiḍr explained that underneath the wall was a treasure belonging to two hapless orphans whose father was a righteous man. As God's envoy, Khiḍr restored the wall, showing God's kindness by rewarding the piety of the orphans' father.

Amenah, do not insult the readers of this blog.

Such ignorant people in the world. There are sick people from every religion, culture, creed ect. This is just a sick man who happens to be Muslim.

Of course you are deeply grieving for your beloved friend. The murderer was probably an evil man.

But the writer and commenters are not being cold and mean to Jessica. On the contrary, they are very angry that such a lovely young woman was killed. And they know Islam's teachings, can show you so many texts in Quran-Hadith-Sira and of high Islamic theologians about the suppression of women under men and the prevalence of family-honor and loyalty to Islam over preserving life of too autonomous and rebellious women.

We don't know all about this case, and oppression and killing of women happen everywhere, but we also can see that the teachings of Islam in texts and by Islamic theologians have a very violence-exacerbating influence on Muslims. This is only one of many many cases. That is why these cases are shown here, as much as possible. Are you going to deny Islam's bad influence with all of them?

You should consider that nowadays there are many ex-Muslims and Islam-watchers who know an awful lot about Islam and it's influence on the mind of Muslims, like on this murderer's mind. They may know much more about Islam and Muslims than you and your friends do.

And that might mean that you are defending the very ideology that motivated the murder of your beloved friend. And consider that if that is true, then you also help to perpetuate this Islamic detrimental influence and many more girls like your friend may die because of denial of Islamic detrimental influence. And many may be saved by exposing this Islamic detrimental influence.

At least the world can be grateful that Muslim-watchers broadcast that Islamic holy texts and holy leaders can be shown to have violent texts and tenets. And that Muslims very probably are motivated to oppress and even kill women because of them. In this way in future both Muslim girls, their supporters and the authorities become more alert to prevent this. And Muslims may be deterred from doing it because of strict monitoring.

But don't you defend Islam when you yourself have not seen all the evidence linking Islam to the motivations of sooooo many honor killings in the world already. And when you yourself cannot exclude the oppressive and killing influence of Islam and of his Muslim-community on this man's mind.

Yes, once we all thought Islam was innocent until proven guilty, but by now, with all this evidence we have about: - Violent Islamic holy texts. - Violent, anti-democratic attitudes of Islamic leaders all over the world. - Violent behavior of Muslims,

The burden of proof has shifted towards Muslims to refute mountains of evidence or to reform. And all Muslims seem capable of doing in response is to deny all charges and evidence against bad influence of Islam. And avoid proper discussion, by attacking the messengers for being haters, without really deeply responding to the message. It makes Muslims accessories to these crimes. And ignorance of their own religion is no excuse.

Gee, it just so happens Islam seems to have a monopoly on sick men as the brutal, ugly, bloody, continuing
history of Islam proves on a daily basis, all over the world.

Anyone who kill their Children Will go to Hell for Eternity.....Jesus states that it was better for them never to be born than to hurt anyone of these little ones.
Too Bad that the Muslims are on there way to Hell since their worshipping a Moon God.

IT WAS NOT SHARIA KILLING- HE WAS OBBSESSED WITH HER AND ABUSED HER....

Yes, Islam is a bit of an obsession, isn't it? Daughters of Muslim men are halal to them. And you are no doubt aware, Mohammed/Allah made it halal in the Qur'an to beat your wife and in one of the hadiths, beats Ayesha. You need to understand that your arguments are simply confirming that it was an honor killing.

Keeping bashing on Islam people. Do your repetitive words seem to influence the fact that Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world? For those of you who 'do your research' and think you have it all down, you're wrong. Because Islam does not preach death and violence. Go do your research again and see if there were ANY honor killings during the time of the prophet (which was the point of islam that was the most legit to this day). There was none. Through time the actual religion has been Integrated with culture and termed 'islam'. Those of you who pick up any translations of the Quran may want to be informed that majority of translations are WAY off.

Let me guess what someone is gonna say now... Mohammed was a pedophile?

Well said its all about controle with this sad excuse for a religon.

If thier so called laws were so great why then are they here other than to try to spread thier disease of islam. This trash even wants to have our statue of liberty tore down http://www.thepiratescove.us/2011/03/03/islamists-want-to-destroy-the-statue-of-liberty/

if all islamic people are killers rapists and pedophiles why is it that her biological father was a muslim and she ran to him to be protected from this man and he allowed her to be more "westernized" than her step father liked?

This is just murder, plain and simple. It's evil, and I won't say what Islam is because it won't be nice.

That is just cruel, no one has any right to kill an innocent person no matter what they did. Jessica is not his daughter she is his step dauhter, he has no right to shoot her or even touch her.

Islam does NOT state in anyway that parents are allowed to abuse their children sexually.. now i really don't know why all u people blaming Islam, I'm a Muslim and my dad, grandpa, my whole family have never done anything like abusing their kids sexually or trying to kill them. now physically, everyone hits their kids at times but its only to teach them(and i don't mean beating them to death) because sometimes they just don't listen through talking, I'm not saying what this bastard did is right because i don't know the exact story. R.I.P. Jessica, insha-Allah you're in heaven now living peacefully better than living with your step dad. This guy is just using this "honor" excuse but as u can tell from the comments, it's really not what it's all about. Now some people live some dum ass culture dat has nothing to do with Islam and blame it all on Islam, like I said I'm a Muslim and my whole family are Muslims and we have never had something like this. Plus those who are stating some impossible things about Islam acting like they're Muslims probably made fake accounts and try to make Islam look abusive, like one of them said Islam states you can abuse ur daughter physically or sexually??????? I have never learned anything like this about Islam. Plus Islam states you can't get into any kind of sexual thing s with any girl but your wife, how would it state you're allowed to abuse your daughters sexually. I have a lot more to say but i guess I'm just going to stop now just wanted to send a message to all of you, and i don't know this girl but this story kills me. It's really sad that such a beautiful girl died that way :( may Allah grant her with all the blessings.

strongly agree with yazan because im a muslim to and as a muslim i nvr in all my 18 years have witnessed any of the things you guys stated therefore as a muslim i can not get mad for your own opinion but i can always try to prove to you guys that we muslims believe in god the same god as(allah) and he placed us all here on earth to live to prove that we are all good people unless you choose the wrong path ......... but anyways she didnt deserve what happened to her no one does . her step dad was a wrong "man" for what he did and we cant judge him but god can judge so all we can say is may she rest in peace and may her family have all my blessings and best wishs ......she will be missed

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