Pamela Geller on FOX Business: Obama's Birth Certificate

In case you missed my appearance on Eric Bolling's Show on FOX Business.

UPDATE: I got a copy of the full segment; if you are interested in seeing the whole thing, go here.

Comments

[Barney]

I need to see her long form birth certificate to prove otherwise.

[Lucy]

You are great Pam, keep going!

[john jay]

asshat.

john jay
milton freewater, oregon usa

[Lillith]

Yeah and we need to see your "Certificate of Live Birth"...what the hell are you, the afterbirth that could..Idiot!

[Frank Royce]

You are embarrassing yourself, Pamela.

[john jay]

pamela:

money quote. "and he didn't realize it either."

his family never "knew," and neither did he.

john jay
milton freewater, oregon usa

p.s. more t.v. you belong there.

[JKT]

I dont blame Obama not wanting to show Birth Certificate Information that both parents was not working Good thing the laws bat then are not like they are now possible father of baby 24-25 Mpther of child may have been 17 Todays laws would have certain names for adults that have sex with children Obama being half white is a disgrace to all Americans He is one of the biggest racist half white half black in the United States The USA will be so much better if this half white person would resign and go back to his native land This half white person has not been good for USA

[John K]

Judging by techguy's previous explanations, Hawaii prints birth certificates from their database on security paper, so that would explain the security border outside of the print region.

What seems odd is that the certificate is not a database printout, but rather a photocopy from a book. I know you have examined birth certificates from other Hawaiians who are contemporary to Obama. Have you seen anything like this before? I don't think so.

It's almost like Obama sent Hawaii a scan and asked Hawaii to print it for him.

[David]

Good point about the passport for his Pakistan trip. I forgot about that.
If I had the time and money Obama has spent to put this off, I'm sure I could make a better forgery.
I'm disappointed. All the to do about this and nothing remarkable is remarkable by itself. It would be far more credible if something at least slightly embarrassing were found. A different father's name might do it or at least a different birth date than we have been told.

[WAKE UP]

Whether the Birth Certificate is genuine or not, Obama still doesn't act or think like an AMERICAN.

[rd]

O LIONESS OF JUDAH!!! YOU DA BOMB. WE LUV HUH!!!!!

[Kafir]

This is just an abstract, even says so!
An original LFBC says "true and complete original"!!
And it has no seal.
pffffffffffff

He's not a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN
DEFINED BY THE LAW OF NATIONS (BASIS OF CONSTITUTION AND DOI) AS
BORN IN COUNTRY OF PARENTS WHO ARE ITS CITIZENS

[Kafir]

The Nordyke twins' LFBC has a seal and says true and complete copy of original with signature by state registrar

an abstract can be an artistic interpretation!

[rd]

amen. pamela, more television. you were just great!

[rd]

girl, you were rolling!!! @3:25 and then the out-of-the-park quote: he's the president he answers to US. thank you!!!!!

[rd]

you just wish you could grow some cojones.

[Safti]

Yes, we luv huh!!! Pamela fights for our FREEDOM day and night.

[Bella Bauhaus]

does anyone know enough about adobe and OCR issues to say whether the layers should be there or not?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeSzXcv3nXk

[Bella Bauhaus]

apparently, it's a layered photoshop image and not a document with OCR issues / problems, and is therefore FRAUDULENT:

http://www.adobe.com/designcenter/photoshopelements/articles/what_are_layers/pib_pse_what_are_layers.pdf

[Mike in San Diego]

Nice job Pamela, keep up the good work!

[Bohemond1096]

LMAO at how the 0bots are going ballistic because their fearless leader can't produce a long form BC with an official embossed state seal. I guess no official in Hawaii is willing to risk aiding and abetting the comission of a Federal felony by attaching a Hawaii state seal to a forged document. Looks like the mention of impeachment and high treason has got more people than just 0bama worried.

[Polymath]

Where is his Selective Service registration ? Or didn't the law demand that for college when he was eighteen ? I don't recall when that was placed into Law.

[dawning]

Wow Pamella, That'll preach.... You are making the worms squirm ..a couple of them right on your good blog here..squirmey barney and squirmey roycee

[Johannes]

Is it not an embarrassment that his father committed statuary rape?!
Not to mention what an embarrassment his political career has been...

[Johannes]

I do! A PDF can have layers now too. but a simple scan should not!

[Johannes]

maybe borrow some...

[Watchman]

He's hiding many things and his transparent presidency is just that. A lie. I still believe he's a muslim hiding behind a Christian front. He IS a socialist marxist and besides that being obvious, his university class reports etc. point that out. Another reason not to disclose his school information.

[Kafir]

Firing squad or noose for treason doesn't sound too appealing.

[Warren]

One thing I am confused about is if his real name is Barry Saetoro, why does the birth cirtificate say Barack Obama? Also Trump said that his first book was not written by Obama. I recall reading something here about an event described in the book happened not in the life of Obama but in the life of Airhead Airs.

[Stephanie]

(video) Obama lies on His Birth Certificate [HQ] by "Debate TV"
https://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=120210684726174&comments

"Obama was selected, not Elected" - Farrakan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Zw-1Eu4v_g

[Tom TB]

Where did B.H.O. live in N.Y.C. when he attended Columbia? My surname is almost as unusual as his, yet I've left a paper trail in the city of my birth that a cub reporter could follow on their first day on the job. There are things simply not wrapped right about this guy; and yes Pamela, HE WORKS FOR US, and I won't let my siblings who ignorantly voted for him forget it!

[Bruce O'H.]

Thank you, Pamela. You are one of our prominent voices.

[Pam Rabid Dog Gellar]

Crazy beeotch

[Nat's daughter]

What about his various SS#'s??? He is truly a mystery but the left are too delusional to question anything about their phony messiah. Great job Pamela! Hey, I heard Allen West on Hannity last night mention a possibilty that he'd be Trumps VP. Apparently they've spoken about this. THAT would be amazing!!!

[dee dee]

Woootttt! Pamela Rocks!
So many great points made quickly for tv!
I know an O-oid and I asked him could we take just any
document and scan it and play with it in pdf format, to
see what we get.

The answer was not if its going to be used to--
unfinished--I took it to mean he does not really want
to know truth.

[Laurie from Bartlett]

"Who is this man"..wow..you fit SOOO MUCH into that soundbite!!! Great job Pamela! We love you, our warrior!!!! Trump has moved onto the college transcript...yipee!

[Eric]

Yeah, everyone else goes to the counter, plops down ten bucks, fills out the required ID etc. and comes back in a day to retrieve the real McCoy not this pdf creation. Obama has been in HI how many times with this prime requirement unsated? He didn't have the ten spot or what? Instead he calls up Abercrombie, his man of faith, and asks a favor. Note that even Abercrombie couldn't find the original birth certificate issued and only referred to records on file indicating his birth. Then POOF ! a document is GENERATED containing the information one would expect on an original but no original yet surfaces. Keep in mind this important forensic clue, the real document was used in the Obama/ Dunham divorce. It is the missing page from the publicly released decree that show artifacts made by the court. The Dunhams atty and the court have this document on file. Rest assured the state of HI knew this too. Where are those documents now? http://www.scribd.com/doc/18130289/Obama-1964-Divorce-Papers-13-Pages-Missing-Pg-11

Then there is this remark by Obama to Oprah Winfry on her show. When a person states they remember their own birth, polite people say what Oprah said. It is not her place to state the obvious. We the People expect the rule of law to settle this and in front of a jury with all evidence open to examination. Less than that we may as well all be entitled to recall our births, college degrees and save all that money wasted in producing, filing and preserving documents the old fashioned way.

"When it first came up, were you thinking, 'I hope I was born here?' " Winfrey asked.

"Can I just say I was there, so I knew," Obama replied. "I knew I had been born. I remembered it."

"Of course you did," Winfrey said.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2011/04/obamas-birth-certificate-came-via-a-special-dispensation-from-hawaii-he-tells-oprah.html

[Diane]

Check out this website. It has been updated to include the latest birth certificate but if you scroll down far enough it shows a Kenyan birth certificate and birth registration. Interesting to say the least. http://obamanotqualified.com/

[Tawny Jones]

Pamela Geller is bold & beautiful, daring & dominant. We want to see more of her on national TV.

[blindreason]

As government employees (what we all seem to have become in the Age of Obama) you have no right to know the qualifications of that affirmative action guy "they" hired to be your boss. Your Kool-Aid, now symbolically multiflavored, is waiting for you. Drink up.

NOT!!!

[Diane]

Also, Obama is either still a Muslim or he is an apostate. It has to be one of the two. Daniel Pipes explains why in this article on his website:
http://www.danielpipes.org/5544/barack-obamas-muslim-childhood

[ApolloSpeaks]

THE END OF BIRTHERISM IS PRELUDE TO MORE TRUMPING

When Obama announced the release of his birth certificate yesterday he said that the Birther movement "bemused him." Bemused him? More like it AMUSED him. Whereas most grownups in his place would have put an end to the "silliness" of Birtherism by quickly releasing solid proof of his US birthplace Obama instead encouraged it while childishly delighting in it. In the spirit of bipartisanship and empathy he allowed the Birther movement to grow and flourish for thirty months for the amusement and pleasure of seeing right wingers grope around in error. Indeed, this was on the same high plane as inviting Paul Ryan and the GOP to a speech on deficit reduction only to humiliate them. It is that disgusting......

Click my name to read the rest of this piece.

[Gobbo]

Not only is Pam NOT embarrassing herself, she's doing an absolutely heroic public service. She spelled out what I believe is the single most important aspect of the Obama years, which span both his time as a candidate and then as President: "THE MEDIA PROTECTS THIS MAN."

It's downright INFURIATING to watch the media in action with respect to Obama, Trump and the "birther" controversy. When Trump exited his helicopter and spoke to the press yesterday, one reporter after another interrogated him and tried to discredit him. They went right for his jugular. In those few minutes, he received a media grilling the likes of which Obama has not seen in all the years he's been in the public eye.

The smug little guttersnipes on MSNBC and CNN can't help themselves from mocking Trump and his quest for truth but it never occurs to them that it's THEIR DAMN JOB to speak truth to power! THEY should be asking questions about Obama's hidden records (ALL of them), not making excuses on his behalf! By covering for their man in the White House, they have forfeited their traditional role as a watchdog--a vital role in a free country--to private citizens like Pam Geller and Trump.

Members of the media have utterly DISGRACED themselves. THEY are the joke, not Donald Trump. But it's not really a joke, it's very serious. The mainstream media of a free country now resemble the state-run media of an autocracy. So, Frank Royce, it's the media which has embarrassed and shamed itself, not Pam Geller. Open your &*%$! eyes.

[Gobbo]

Not only is Pam NOT embarrassing herself, she's doing an absolutely heroic
public service. She spelled out what I believe is the single most important
aspect of the Obama years, which span both his time as a candidate and then
as President: "THE MEDIA PROTECTS THIS MAN."

It's downright INFURIATING to watch the media in action with respect to Obama,
Trump and the "birther" controversy. When Trump exited his helicopter and spoke
to the press yesterday, one reporter after another interrogated him and tried
to discredit him. They went right for his jugular. In those few minutes, he
received a media grilling the likes of which Obama has not seen in all the years
he's been in the public eye.

The smug little guttersnipes on MSNBC and CNN can't help themselves from mocking
Trump and his quest for truth but it never occurs to them that it's THEIR DAMN JOB
to speak truth to power! THEY should be asking questions about Obama's hidden
records (ALL of them), not making excuses on his behalf! By covering for their man
in the White House, they have forfeited their traditional role as a watchdog--a vital
role in a free country--to private citizens like Pam Geller and Trump.

Members of the media have utterly DISGRACED themselves. THEY are the joke, not
Donald Trump. But it's not really a joke, it's very serious. The mainstream media
of a free country now resemble the state-run media of an autocracy. So, Frank Royce,
it's the media which has embarrassed and shamed itself, not Pam Geller.
Open your &*%$! eyes.

[Johnny]

Barney...She has one I'm sure. The real question is DOES OBAMA have a real BC, plus he has spent tons of money hiding other information, we have a right to know just WHO this man is.

We know people by not what they SAY.. BUT by what they do .........Like Louis F said...Quote: Who the hell do you think you are Obama. The truth will come out, in the long run, always does.

[blindreason]

MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE?

Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to become President of the United States of America without meeting all the constitutional requirements.

[Gobbo]

I agree. I've been saying for months that a Trump/West ticket is the only way
to defeat Obama, who would appear weak and intimidated when compared to either man.

Both Trump and West have enormous charisma; Trump's strength is finance and West's
is military matters; and Trump will need a black running mate to thwart any attempts
by his opponents to play the race card. And play it they will, considering Trump's
role in the "birther" controversy. Whoopi Goldberg is an example; just yesterday she
bluntly said she's "playing the damn card". And a black preacher told Bill O'Reilly
yesterday that Trump's reference to Obama spending too much time on a basketball court
was racist too. Do you believe this crap? It's well known that Obama plays basketball
and golf and enjoys many leisure activities and vacations. But now it's RACIST to point
it out!

In the face of what's sure to be an onslaught of race-card attacks, Trump will absolutely
need a strong, charismatic, African American patriot as his right hand man. That man is West.

Trump/West 2012!

[Bart]

What's the deal with the "Local Registrar" signature on Obama's LFBC being different from the Nordyke twins who were born in the same hospital only a day later?

[smarter than anybody here]

If you think he was born somewhere else, why don't you narrow it down to the one or two possibilities and search for a birth certificate from there? Just an idea. Trump could afford to do that.

[Bohemond1096]

He was adopted by his mother's second husband in Indonesia after she remarried. His school records there show his name as Barry Soetoro and list his religion as muslim. Those are the only records he forgot to hide. When was his name changed to 0bama again? Where is his Indonesian passport?
http://www.thesadtruthis.com/sb/index.php?/archives/65-Obama-AKA-Barry-Soetoro.html

Also none of this explains why his grandmother in Kenya says she was there when he was born.
http://www.plaintruth.com/the_plain_truth/2009/08/did-obamas-grandmother-say-he-was-born-in-kenya.html

[Brandy]

If you ask nicely Pamela may let you borrow hers.

[Brandy]

Sorry Johannes, that was in reply to Frank Royce.

[Bohemond1096]

Because 0bama has had all his records either sealed or destroyed? Add in the fact that his partners in crime in the Democratic party know that if if it is proven that he is ineligible to be president he will be impeached and that will destroy the Democrat party. Or aren't you smart enough to figure that out?

[Gobbo]

Actually, 'smarmier than anybody here', the issue of where he was born is only
one of many concerns. Also of importance:

Why did it take him three years to respond to this controversy? THREE YEARS?!

Why has a man who claimed he would be the most transparent politician of all
time kept his other records hidden? Where are his academic transcripts? Where
are the articles he wrote for the Harvard Law Review? Why the secrecy?

Why do so many people in the media heap scorn and ridicule on citizens who simply
want to know more about the concealed past of the man who leads them? Why is the
American press shilling for the President instead of speaking truth to power? Why
have they abdicated their vitally important role? Why have they disgraced themselves?

Why is Trump a racist for asking questions about Obama's concealed past and
for making a reference to him spending time on a basketball court?

Why do so many smug, stupid people leave messages on blogs using monikers like
"smarter than anybody here"? Are they so thick they can't perceive their own
imbecility?

So many unsolved mysteries...

[Florida Infidel]

Pamela, I saw you on Eric Bolling's show last night, and you were in top form. There was one point where you were talking almost too fast for this Southerner to understand, but I think I got most of what you said. Hope to see you often on his show in the future. Thanks for all you do.

[AuntieMadder]

She certainly has them to spare!

[Diane]

http://obamanotqualified.com/

Here are the one or two possibilities I'm looking at right now. Scroll down to the Kenyan birth certificate and registration.

[AuntieMadder]

I tried repeatedly at many blogs to point out that the document is “COPY OR ABSTRACT” (abstract meaning lifted summary information; not necessarily complete information or a reproduction of the entire document). But no one read it and let what that means sink in enough to realize they're working hard to disprove something that hasn't been claimed. They've been duped by something hidden in plain sight.

[AuntieMadder]

The operative phrase at the bottom is that it is a “COPY OR ABSTRACT” (abstract meaning lifted summary information; not necessarily complete information or a reproduction of the entire document.)
(hat tip to DrCary, commentator at Post & EMail News)

What’s important to know: Fuddy of the HDOH says this is a “computer-generated certified copy” produced outside their usual policies, which she gave herself authority to waive, just in Obama’s case, because he’s the president. What’s a computer-generated certified copy? That could include and probably does include a photoshopped image like we see here. This in no way is an actual photocopy of the original long-form birth certificate.

(hat tip to SapphireSunday, commentator at Post & Email News)

From Fox News: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/04/27/obama-birth-certificate-moved-secure-location-months-ago/#ixzz1Km2BoUni

“Officials in Hawaii had said state law PROHIBITS THEM FROM RELEASING THE INFORMATION CONTAINED IN THE FULL BIRTH CERTIFICATE FILING – EVEN IF THE PRESIDENT HIMSELF REQUESTED A COPY. But that didn’t stop the president from requesting last week two certified copies of certificate of live birth from Director of Health Loretta J. Fuddy. On Monday, Fuddy complied. ‘As director of health for the state of Hawaii, I have the legal authority TO APPROVE THE PROCESS by which copies of such records are made. Through that authority, in recognition of your status as president of the United States, I am MAKING AN EXCEPTION to the current departmental policy which is TO ISSUE A COMPUTER-GENERATED CERTIFIED COPY,’ she wrote.”

The exception was to issue a COMPUTER-GENERATED certified copy. So they admit it’s computer generated. That might include all the photoshopping that seems to be in evidence. Another exception might be to not print the late or delayed or amended notification. Another exception might be to make this an abstract containing only the LATEST (most recent) permutation of all the facts contained in the “full birth certificate filing.” Which might mean elimination of the names of the biological parents, if he was adopted, replaced by the adoptive parents. Which might mean elimination of his name at birth, as opposed to what it is now, after being amended in their records. Which might mean elimination of the fact that at birth no father was named, but one was later added, via amendment, but this computer-generated abstract isn’t showing that out of deference to his status as president. You see how it goes?

Even he can’t get access to the FULL information. So what was embarrassing on the original that is now not evident on this supposed long-form which is NOT a TRUE COPY OF HIS ORIGINAL LONG-FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE? It’s a computer-generated abstract, created just for him outside their usual policies and procedures. Didn’t a legislator want to pass a law so they could do just this? Create a “something” especially for Obama? Well, looks like it’s been done without a special law.

(again, thank you to SapphireSunday, commentator at Post & Email News, for the preceding two paragraphs. I could have rewritten them and made them my own but I couldn't have worded them better.)

From Fox News: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/04/27/obama-birth-certificate-moved-secure-location-months-ago/#ixzz1Km2BoUni

[Said Attorney General David Louie,] “Director Fuddy exercised her legal authority in a completely appropriate manner in this unique circumstance.

(snip)

Abercrombie issued the following statement on Wednesday:

“Considering all of the investigations that have been done and the information that has been provided, no rational person can question the President’s citizenship. We have found a way – once again – to confirm what we already knew: the President was born here in Hawai‘i. State officials of both parties have verified that President Obama’s birth records show that he was born in Honolulu.

[Marco]

I want to see prove......Not blalblalbllaaalblaaaa on Fox..With no prove I can also your a islamofoob lesbian....No prove

[Hainer]

The requirement that the President of the US be a natural born citizen was put in the US Constitution by the founders of this country and they did not put it there to be ignored by anyone including political parties, state election officials, the courts or the congress. And yet proof has been ignored by everyone responsible for enforcement in direct violation of the constitution. The question also has to be asked has tax dollars been spent to elect without verifying qualification and later to oppose disclosure of proof of qualification in the courts.

[Annie]

So, those of us who don't appreciate being conned are silly? Nope, those of you who accept a giant con job are pathetic. He works for us!

[Mackie]

I'm sorry but I think it is time to move away from this issue. We have got much bigger fish to fry if we want to get Obama out of office in 2012.

The American people want to address Obama's Policies that are hurting our nation on so many fronts, that's were the battle need to be. At one one point we began to strain our credibility if we cannot move away from the birther issue. If you have strong and credible evidence that Obama is not qualified as president take it up with the FBI.

The best way to remove this Marxist president in the next 18 months is to attack his political actions and positions and define how they are hurting both America and our international policies both economically and politically.

[sDee]

Natural Born clause as 2 key requirements for presidential candidates 1) to born on US soil (jus soli) and 2) both parents are citizens (jus sanguinis).

Obama has always openly published that he fails to meet one of these criteia (his father was not a US citizen) yet neither the Congress nor the Courts have investigated or taken action.

Why does anyone think America will take action if we find out he also does not meet the other requirement (born on US soil)?

[silent_rage]

OMG! Has anyone checked out Chucky at lgf?
He's certifiable, now!

[ericjfrench@yahoo.com]

Mackie, we have to have a multi-pronged approach, we MUST fight like the marxists to...we must destroy his character one cut at a time AND argue against his policies. THAT'S what the alinskyites/marxists do and we must use their tactics. We cannot beat them by simply "getting to work", not when they lie and slander us every inch of the way. Don't forget, they are calling us racists, nazis, and every other name in the book, and we turn around and say "but what about the deficit?" We must expose this fraud for what he is, if we don't do that, he will win in 2012.

Trump knows what he's doing here...he knows that we must tarnish his reputation and expose his character. We all know this COLB is a fake, manufactured document, but most people really don't care because most people believe he was born in Hawaii as I do. BUT, this just a start...we need to follow the evidence and see how this doc came to be, how his SSN came to be, what passport did he use when flying to Pakistan? So many, many questions...we need to keep hammering so we know how he came to be at Harvard...because without that Harvard experience he would never be president.

[Spartan]

Seems everyone is missing the point. The certificate of live birth is not the issue. The issue is his adoption by Stanley Ann's second husband, Soetero, in Indonesia. If BHO become an Indonesian citizen, which in the mid-late 1960's meant renouncing his American citizenship because the law implicitly stated that a person could not be both an Indonesian citizen and an American citizen because dual citizenship was prohibited during the years Obama/Barry lived in Indoneia and attended school there. I that is the case, it means BHO would have had to re-apply for naturalized citizenship upon returning to the USA from Indonesia which effectively prevents him constitutionally from being President of the USA.

[David]

James Madison (one of the founding fathers for the uniformed) repeatedly stated that place of birth trumps (no pun intended) parentage when it comes to being a citizen. Article II Section 1.4 does not define the term "natural born citizen" Numerous SCOTUS rulings and the 14th amendment clearly state that if you are born on US soil you are a citizen. Sorry to burden you with the truth

[Mackie]

Age and Citizenship requirements - US Constitution, Article II, Section 1

"No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty-five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States."

Please note the very last sentence under Acticle II, Section I " and been fourteen years a resident within the United States" If you are a natural born citizen and spent 14 years of at least 35 years of your life in the United states then you qualify under the US Constitution. there is nothing in Article II Section I that refutes the right of a natural born citizen on any other extenuating issue such as adoption or living in another country for several years.

[Lettherebelight]

He is not my president and he proved it with his anti-American policies long before this COLB. I second the Lioness of Judah! comment about Ms. Geller.

[Spartan]

The problem is all the documents are not released. We see this document, but what about others that come after it? If he did give up his US citizenship to become an Indonesian citizen, can he then give up his Indonesian citizenship and re-apply for his American citizenship?. Can you even re-apply for American citizenship upon giving it up? Is there a once an American always an American clause? You see, this colb is just one document out of many that we have finally, after 3 years of asking, have gotten to see. The teller will be if he applied for foreign student bursaries or scholarships. Some have said he lived in the dorms that were exclusive to foreign students-don't know if this is true, but the release of all of his educational records, passport, and his records in Indonesia would put the matter to rest. It is odd that this colb states African as race when in the 60's - the term Negro or Negroid was used, and someone else noted that Kenya was not called Kenya in 1961.

[rd]

LOL, make em squirm back under their rocks. that includes....oBAHMaaaa. (the way pam says it)

[rd]

you just wish you were beautiful, intelligent, moral, ethical and working hard to save the free world from slime like yourself.

[Rodney]

Some people ask why the WH, with unlimited funds and lots of time, would put out a crude forgery. Some even, foolishly, use this to dismiss anyone who questions the latest document. But the answer is that anyone versed in the Alinsky Rules (as Obama is) knows that it usually pays to depend on the lowest intellectual element in society, who are disposed to come to easy conclusions that seem to "fit" rather than objective ones. This is especially true when most of the MSM is so much on your side. And remember, all Obama wants is to squeak in for four more years. He doesn't care if it all unravels after he's safely reelected and able to do as much as possible to destroy freedom.

That said, I am still thinking about whether this is possibly somehow not fake (but it doesn't look good so far).

[rd]

maybe he wasn't born. maybe he just slithered out from under a slimey rock.

[olm]

Spartan is right, as all good Spartans are. The adoption in Indonesia is a big problem for Obama and opens the entire can of worms.

[Mackie]

At this stage of Obama's presidency I'm more compelled to look at it from a political point of view. What issues can we be more effective in stopping this president from doing more damage to our image around the World? What can we do to stop Obamacare across the 50 states from being implemented thus creating another massive and corrupt bureaucracy,what can we do to get the EPA under control? Stop massive spending that is not creating private sector jobs,curb the over inflated controls of state run unions, remove Richard Trumka from the Whitehouse, open up restricted areas to drilling responsibly and work to create energy independence on all fronts from the middle east,get rid of the radical,socialist Marxists that this President has empowered in his administration.

America uses around 2 1/2 million barrels of oil a day, the US supplies 40 percent of their own oil and Canada is our next greatest oil supplier-- we can do much better while still working on alternatives.

[Tom TB]

I'm 56 and obviously NOT the Prez; but what jumped out at me from the get-go was the reluctance on HIS part to credit ALL the folks that helped his passage to the people's house in OUR nation's Capitol. If I got myself elected, there would be a memorial wing at Sloan Hospital for Women, and that would precede my demise. Who is this guy, WHAT is he proud of, and what is he hiding???

[Jan]

Thanks Pamela-It's great to see you defending the American people!

Obama is most afraid of the natural born citizen issue...being just a "citizen" is not enough, he also needed both parents to be US citizens when he was born.
The founders did not want dual allegiance and that's what Obama had at birth.

His father, (now confirmed by him to be Barack Obama SR) was NEVER a US citizen so therefore Barry cannot be a "natural born citizen" as required by the US constitution.

I think if you can make this point on TV-Obama will shake in his Italian loafers.

[Matt]

hahahaha you delusional fucking retards. Suck a bone, the lot of you.

[jj]

friendsq:

i know pamela is aware of it, but, it has not been mentioned in these comments, so i will mention it.

apparently, the hospital listed in "obama" no. 2 did not exist in 1961.

there was a hospital at that address, but it operated as another entity under a different name. from what i am given to understand from other sources, the hospital did not assume its current name, and the name on "obama" no. 2 until 1978, when it merged with another hospital/[corporate entity, probably] and took a new name.

if this is true, it establishes in my mind the almost non-rebutable assumption/presumption that that "obama" no. 2 is just as big a forgery as "obama" no. 1, and obama himself right along with the obama white house.

so, the question must be asked, how did an entity that did not even exist until 1978 come to q"appearq" on a document purportedly filled out, completed and registered with the registrar of vital statistic/department of health in 1961.

the obama mama prescient, was she, by 17 years?

unless these questions are answered, or a whole mess of other people come up with 1961 hawaii birth certificates with the same hospital address/name as presently constituted, it seems to me obama is a liar. simply put.

john jay
milton freewater, oregon usa

p.s. you can buy a '55 chevy w/ a 350 c.i. motor, but it wasn't made that way by the factory, because 350 c.i. small blocks did not exist in 55. they "get put in later," kapish?

[Rodney]

I think, because it will be more obvious. Everyone in the media, and the public, seems to know that it is important for Obama to be born in the US--and it better be Hawaii, because if not he's exposed as a monumental liar.

[steveeboy]

you people are morons.

the hospital name issue has been debunked by one of your own at free republic, here is the history of the two hospitals:
http://www.kapiolani.org/women-and-children/about-us/default.aspx

as far as the "natural born citizen" qualification requiring two parents be us citizens,
TRY AGAIN:
Thomas Jefferson‘s mother was born in England
Andrew Jackson‘s parents were both born in Ireland
James Buchanan had an Irish father
Chester A. Arthur had an Irish father
Woodrow Wilson‘s mother was English
Herbert Hoover had a Canadian-born mother

GOT IT?

[steveeboy]

and some more from someone who is not a moron like you people:

US v. WONG KIM ARK (1898)- the 14th Amendment guaranteed citizenship to all persons born in the United States, regardless of their ethnic heritage

The foregoing considerations and authorities irresistibly lead us to these conclusions: The fourteenth amendment affirms the ancient and fundamental rule of citizenship by birth within the territory, in the allegiance and under the protection of the country, including all children here born of resident aliens, with the exceptions or qualifications (as old as the rule itself) of children of foreign sovereigns or their ministers, or born on foreign public ships, or of enemies within and during a hostile occupation of part of our territory, and with the single additional exception of children of members of the Indian tribes owing direct allegiance to their several tribes. The amendment, in clear words and in manifest intent, includes the children born within the territory of the United States of all other persons, of whatever race or color, domiciled within the United States. Every citizen or subject of another country, while domiciled here, is within the allegiance and the protection, and consequently subject to the jurisdiction, of the United States. His allegiance to the United States is direct and immediate, and, although but local and temporary, continuing only so long as he remains within our territory, is yet, in the words of Lord Coke in Calvin’s Case, 7 Coke, 6a, ‘strong enough to make a natural subject, for, if he hath issue here, that issue is a natural-born subject’; and his child, as said by Mr. Binney in his essay before quoted, ‘If born in the country, is as much a citizen as the natural-born child of a citizen, and by operation of the same principle.’

And:

To hold that the fourteenth amendment of the constitution excludes from citizenship the children born in the United States of citizens or subjects of other countries, would be to deny citizenship to thousands of persons of English, Scotch, Irish, German, or other European parentage, who have always been considered and treated as citizens of the United States.

[Davidka]

The document lists BO's race as "African." "African" is a term for geographical origion, not "race," and was not in use on official documents or even informally to refer to blacks in 1961. I'm sure other anomalies will come to light (don't expect to see them in the MSM)especially if other blacks born in Hawaii around that time have birth documents that are markedly different from BO's.

[Brandy]

So true!

[angel espinosa]

No, did not - would not miss that. You were great, Pamela. You conducted yourself with grace and professionalism by refraining from making assumptions about the authenticity of the newly released document... and only noting that the document is titled, "Certificate of Live Birth".

(Am I reading the reports correctly? Are all original birth documents in Hawaii titled "Certificate of Live Birth", rather than "Birth Certificate"?)

Off topic:
Oh how I wish that one of these Fox "news" hosts/pundits would ask you about Chris 'Mohammed' Christies's disturbing ties to Islamic Supremacists/terrorists! They are all so eerily silent on this... and instead, keep singing his praises as a great presidential hopeful. He is the GOP's little love-child.

[Gobbo]

Thanks for living up to our expectations of Obama voters.
Thanks for reminding us about the state of your intellect.

[Rodney]

You should read the blog Natural Born Citizen by Leo Donofrio.

[angel espinosa]

Sorry, Jan - that is incorrect. Both parents do not need to be US citizens in order for their US-born child to be a natural-born citizen.

[Fred]

He died in 2003. He was a senator at the time, but hardly famous enough at the time for the doctor to have wondered if the baby he'd delivered 42 years previously might be one and the same.

[hopespringseternal]

Love you Pamela.....Excelsior!!!!

[truthbetold11]

100 percent faked on purpose. 1, to keep birther issue going, to racially divide the country,3, He doesnt have a real one to show. Don't fall prey to the media this is their feeding frenzy on this. this was intentionally done to keep us distracted. if you tell the lie big enough and keep repeating it people will believe it as truth.

[jj]

friends:

i am sorry to have repeated the "name change" story without having checked it more closely.

such is life, ... , and, i am hoisted on my own petard.

i realized my error when i read a jerome corsi article in which the famous/infamous nordyke twins certificates were printed, and it appears that the hospital's name & form of the hospital's name are the same as on the obama no. 2 proffer.

i apologize for the misinformation.

john jay
milton freewater, oregon usa

[jj]

steveeboy:

i was wrong, and i apologized for it, conceding my error.

i may be correct about something, tomorrow, with any luck.

you, however, will still be something of an asshole, even while apparently correct on some matters. an arrogant self assured asshole, but, an asshole nonetheless. seems to me.

john jay
milton freewater, oregon usa

[john jay]

steveeboy:

i am sorry, my previous remarks were untoward, inaccurate and incomplete.--

i left out smug and superior as descriptors, and for this i apologize.

john jay
milton freewater, oregon usa

[Mark]

This document was doctored.
watch it:
http://www.conservativeactionalerts.com/blog_post/show/2468

[Mitch]

This document they put out there is likely a forgery. Don't doubt one second that this crook would have a document manufactured to continue his scam.

How can Americans let this punk get away with this??

[Kafir]

You're a wormy obot disinformationist--it's the PARENTAL CITIZENSHIP not birthplace that matters to NBC, and the grandfather clause of article II which you deliberately left out, excluded the earliest presidents who were alive in 1787. EVERYONE PLEASE NOTE THIS OBOT DISINFORMATION CAMPAIGN posted boy STEVEBOY.

The Constitution's Article II requires that the president be a natural born citizen, which most (dumb) Americans confuse with a statutory citizen. A statutory citizen can run for Congress or Senate, but
not as president. The Law of Nations, upon which the Constitution and Declaration of Independence are based (it's even mentioned in Article I), defines a Natural Born Citizen as: "BORN IN-COUNTRY OF
PARENTS WHO ARE ITS CITIZENS"; and so Obama could never have been eligible. He even agrees to this as cosponsor of SR511.
The media has successfully kept the focus on just the birth certificate, which wouldn't matter anyway since Obama's father was an alien, that suffices to disqualify him as eligible.
Article II's grandfather clause covered for the first presidents not alive in 1787, since natural born citizens are all second generation, the first crop were just "citizens" since the country was too new.

Everyone knows he's not a natural born citizen, even Obama (remember he cosponsored SR511). The Constitution is a Contract. It has been nullified by an ineligible usurper. In effect, the contract binding the nation-states null and void, any war, debt, owing, treaty, is effectively null and void. The states are not bound to a null contractual union. The essay by Edwin Vieira, J.D., Ph.D. Harvard Law Constitutional Law professor from 2008 explains this very well.

Minor holds the following are not natural born citizens
1 US citizen parent (born in US or anywhere) naturalized at birth (Wong holds this too)
0 US citizen parents naturalized by oath

so the only thing a NBC can possibly be by exclusionary mathematical logic is
born in-country to 2 US citizens

[Kafir]

jj, steveeboy is lying, it's the obot way!! read below