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Wednesday, April 27, 2011

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BC from 1961 - very close to Obama's birthdate: http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=105347

It's hard to beleive that with ALL the gov's covert operations they couldn't forge a good copy. Did anyone compare a birth certificate from the same day as the President's and compare the spelling? Will the green lizardmaster, that disgustin Charles Johnson come out and show this is a fake? He made his name with the forged Bush paperwork. LOL!

Born in the 50's, Maimonides Hospital, NYC - am I the only one with a Maimonides Certificate with my right foot print, my mother's right thumb print and a blue time stamp from the hospital? Says my father was a citizen of the USA and my mother was a citizen of the USA. Anyone else got foot prints on their COLB? Got a gold seal too.

Copy the document from the .gov website, open Word, and paste. See what you get. I just gave it a try, and it's very interesting.

There's no embossed seal on the COLB either.

I have a certificate of live birth, and mine has a seal.

God you're a fucking pathetic and worthless whore. Just jump off a cliff and do earth a favor already, you insufferable whackjob harpy bitch.

I just looked at my own BC it contained SO much info, not just my parents names ages places of birth, my dads occupation and name of employer, how many other children my mother had, wether or not they were still alive, ATTENDING physicians signature TWICE, AND a notary seal. In order to transfer my NY driver's license at the NJ motor vehicle dept, I had to present an authentic BC WITH notary signature and seal,,( no photocopies were acceptable),,but the POTUS doesn't have to? I smell garbage!

Pete,

Please see a doctor you need help.

Wow, Pete, is that part of the new libtard "civility?" You have no facts, just the typical (yawn) filthy libtard hate. Sorry, your boss is a fraud and criminal. No one falls for his crap. Except you useful idiots.

This certificate appears to be a forgery for 3 reasons: (1) it was only produced after extreme delay and in response to a belated request by the WH, (2) evidence of "layering," and (3) lack of the essential embossed seal of the State of Hawaii, without which the certificate cannot be "certified." One cannot obtain a U.S.A. passport using this unsealed copy.

I have a certified copy of my COLB from the State of Hawaii (1963), and it contains a raised, embossed State Seal. Otherwise, it looks nearly identical to the digital image. BTW, I was born in the Kapialani hospital, so the reader who claims this isn't possible pre-1978 needs to get her facts straight.

I just looked at mine. I was born in 1962. Mine looks nothing like this BS forgery. LMFAO at the loons who will fall for this BS. First, there is another court case on May 2 against the Fraud. Then there is Jerome Corsi's book coming out May 17th. Throw in the heat that The Donald has thrown at the Criminal in Chief, and add some distraction of the other criminal, Bernanke's, scam on America today...Voila! The desperate need by the Fraud to show ANOTHER forgery. LOL LOL LOL. Three years ago I said that Obama was the biggest hoax, con job and scam on America in our history and he just keeps proving me right!

"...Raises More Questions than it Answers..."

Par for the course with BHO and the Progressives.

d(^_^)b
http://libertyatstake.blogspot.com/
"Because the Only Good Progressive is a Failed Progressive"

Oh yeah, never mind the poll that just came out that said only 38% of Americans believe the Fraud was born in the US. I still don't believe it and never will. One of my best friends goes to Kenya for business a lot and spoke to his friend, a casino owner in Mombassa, this morning. They laugh their butts off at us. The only reason they won't give us the real Kenyan BC is that Obama is funneling so much American money into Africa. This BS has to END. NOW.

It's just very interesting. When I open the pdf on the .gov site, the document shows up as an Adobe Acrobat file. I'm thinking out loud here...yes, there is a layering function in Adobe Acrobat, and as of version 9 you can create layers in Acrobat. However, the layering function is not the default when you do a scan and the file is saved as a PDF. It's one image. When I copy the image of another PDF file that I have, which was created by someone else, and paste it into something like Word or PowerPoint, (I don't even need to drop it into Illustrator) it comes in as one image, and doesn't have layers.

This frigging regime is so used to lying to the Sheeple- and they are convinced that no when is going to question everything this serial liar says, does and presents.
Did you notice the birth cert says his father's "race" is AFRICAN? Since when is African a RACE?
His mother's is listed as "Caucasian." I believe in 1961- his father's would have been listed as Negro- because Black didn't become fashionable until the 1970s-80s.
He has to be REMOVED- and everything he has signed should be NULLIFIED.
He is a Constitutional Crisis- and YES- a Manchurian President.
And P.S. FU, Pete. You hateful anti-semitic TROLL.

0bama's fear that Trump will uncover the truth is painfully evident. Obviously this clumsy attempt is meant to satisfy Trump and make him call off his attack. If anything it will make him go after the truth even more. Even Oprah declined 0bama's plea for her help to make The Donald back off. She doesn't want to be remembered for having her career end while helping the only president to be impeached and tried for treason.
Bye bye, 'bama.

God, you birthers are hilarious. Maybe Malcolm X photoshopped it? Or was it the Aliens that come down at night to probe you?

Unbelievable!

See how the document was faked here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pt7oi2qfxlY&feature=youtu.be

Your beloved president is no patriot, he is a liar. At least Hilary and her husband were patriots. This man is no patriot.

Of course the BC is a fake their is no state seal on it . Real BCs come with stamped seal.

Allen Funt said...

God, you birthers are hilarious. Maybe Malcolm X photoshopped it? Or was it the Aliens that come down at night to probe you?

Unbelievable!

Since when it is considered "vast right-wing conspiracy" to merely demand accountability? We the American people have the right to demand that our "freely elected" President prove his credentials, otherwise why should he not be impeached?

I recommend you read Pamela's book, The Post-American Presidency or go to www.audible.com and download the audiobook. It's a damn good read, and details why we should be cautious about the Post-American President (Obama).

Good lord you all are loons. You know why there's layering? Because that's what happens when you open a document in Photoshop. It can pick out the "letters" part from the background. Unless....

Wait....

OBAMA HAS INFILTRATED PHOTOSHOP! iTunes will be next!

Everyone knows the real b/c was in building 7.

Well, here's my take...all this stuff is never going to go away with him. He's refused to release his information. All of it. Who knows if this birth certificate is a fraud or not. Could be. And then it could be as simple as OCR software creating searchable PDF's, of which the birth certificate is one. But, I cannot forget the instances when he's refused to place his hand over his heart during the national anthem, or at Arlington Cemetery. I cannot forget him apologizing to Muslims about our country, or bowing to dictators. I cannot forget how he made the Easter message into a message about Islam. I cannot forget how he has appointed "czars" who make decisions about public policy but are not accountable to anyone except him. It just goes on and on and on. This guy obviously does NOT love this country, the people of this country, or anything that we stand for. It's obvious. We need to defeat him in the next election.

So, regardless if this is a manufactured birth certificate or not, if we want to defeat the waste of skin that occupies the WH, we do need to seriously focus on the abject failure he has been as a president. That's what will unseat this guy. He is a complete and total failure as a president.

Look at the .gov actual .pdf document and zoom in on it to about 400%. There are individual letters and numbers all over the place that look different... they have anti-aliasing whereas most of it does not. For instance, the last '1' in "61 10641", the 'R' in box 1a, the 'g' in box 3, the comma in 5a, the 'K' in 11, the 'D' in 18a, different shades in box 22, many more. Something is definitely fishy here.

Absolutely correct. The seal is missing. The thing he posted as real is so easy to fake. And for all the be3hind the scene bullshit that goes on with top level politicians, this fake was about as easy as it comes. No challenge at all and how convenient the doctor is dead. Where's the foot prints?

Birthers, please, please stop. Love ya, Love Pammy, but please stop it. This is a dead end.

Pam

Do you (we) know what format did the State of Hawaii release?

This is an almost 60 year old document. Presumably they photographed it or scanned it from the original.

all direct scans go straight to uncompressed bitmap..

why is there a PDF at all?

Yeesh. As a professional in the graphics arts industry, I can assure you that almost all of the information posted here and in linked articles appears to be from people with a degree from Youtube University. Please, put it to rest already.

Apparently, it's not a dead issue. The fact that you are here trying to get people to stop is ironic. This release of the obvious faked document just made it worse! Now it's out in public for everyone to see it's a fake. I'm curious, why are you people so determined to get "birther's" to stop bring this issue up? Is it because you think the battle can not be one? Now people are more determined to find out what the truth is here.

Abercrombie admits he searched the archives and couldn't find the long form birth certificate

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1348916/Hawaii-governor-says-Obamas-birth-record-exists-produce-it.html

and here....

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=252833

Obama born on Aug 4th with a certificate number of 10641 but Susan Nordyke born on Aug 5th with a cert number of 10637???

The numbering which is suspect. The Nordyke twins were born on 8/5 and their number is 10637, Obama was born the day before and the number is 10641. Someone needs to look at ALL certificates of birth etc. 6 months before and after 8/4/61 if for no other reason to establish if in fact two hospital names were used on other certificates as well as if there are other "irregularities". WTF???

Also the names Barack Hussein Obama II look very uniform and of a newer font.The other typewritten words have irrgularities of height in them -suddenly a letter jumps up a little (old fashioned typewriters often did this.)


And from another website:http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=185094&page=5)

2: The 'typewritten' fonts are too clear, sharp, and defined...at least most of them. As if someone used MS Paint with the pencil tool to write the words. Compare a few letters with everything else:

Check out the "K" in "Keyna", the "S" in "Stanley", the "D" in "Dunham", and the Signature of the Attendant. They all appear to be REAL -- very pixelated. But the rest of the letters around them look perfect with regard to pixelation levels.

3: **** is absolutely right about the differing saturation levels. I have NEVER seen that before on a scan.

4: Is it just me, or do all the letters (minus the previously mentioned "K", "S", "D", and signatures flash when you zoom in on the doc in PDF, grab it, and move it around quickly?

I've also never seen a scan do that before either.

Funny how the actual pixelated portions don't flash when you move the image as I mentioned, but everything else does.
ALSO From Market-ticker: "Look at the middle name.. is the double S evidence of manipulation?"

AND from Market ticker-: The "961" in 1961 does not appear to have the normal amount of background in it. Compare it to the street address of "6085".

The dates on the bottom, on the other hand, have been tampered with.

My own observation: look at the dates of signature by the mother on Obama's birth certificate and on Susan Nordykes birth certificate-the same-8-7/61 BUT the DASHES between the numbers slant the same way.

In both, the first dash slants upwards to the right and the next dash is horizontal. In fact I would say the date on Obama's was copied from Nordykes birth certificate because what are the chances of two different people signing and then writing the dates in EXACTLY the same way?


To question the existence of the BC is natural.

To question the AUTHENTICITY of the document then becomes fringe, and any who do so can be dismissed as conspiracy nuts.
AND WHAT IF THE WHITE HOUSE CHANGES THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE AGAIN IN REPSONSE TO ALL THIS?

Recently, O's partners-in-crime became demonstrably vitriolic against birthers. Apparently, they attended a closed door meeting where they were told "My birth certificate should be ready soon." Sure - signed by a dead doctor. How convenient. So tell me, O, why did you spend millions upon millions of dollars suppressing the information and punishing those who challenged you? Nothing to hide my foot. I don't believe for one moment that this document is legitimate. Not a chance.

Mine is in the safe deposit box, but I'm going to get it the next time I go to town.
Both mine and hubs are certified copies, the originals were lost.

I forgot: I'd like to compare this fake with a genuine birth certificate from the same year. I just love Pam Geller. As soon as I heard about this, I ignored everybody's take on it and came first and directly to Atlasshrugs.com for the truth.

Whether the Birth Certificate is genuine or not, Obama still doesn't act or think like an AMERICAN.

No it's not, Augusta. Whether the Birth Certificate is genuine or not, Obama still doesn't act or think like an AMERICAN

The prime directive of the "New Civility" was no veiled death threats, no horseshit about "Second Amendment Solutions" and no going out of your fucking way to encourage your more loosely glued supporters to hit the road with a 20 gauge to make a grab for immortality. It didn't say anything about not calling stupid fucking retards like you, stupid fucking retards.

See, that's the difference between civility as most people understand it, and the good ol' Southern civility that keeps getting you dozy fuckers into trouble. You guys think having a potty mouth is far, far worse than quietly intimating someone be killed. We tend to think it's the other way around.

As for this latest piece of birther bullshit, it's simple. The .PDF is a composite of multiple images, sure, but the layers were created automatically during the process of scanning the document. They weren't created by a person. See, most scanners are capable of performing OCR (or "Optical Character Recognition"). OCR allows users to search PDFs more effectivel, and it works by compiling different portions of text on different layers. It's not a very reliable technology, which is why half the layers in the birth certificate are just full of squiggles and other random garbage. But it's the kind of thing which (a) you can easily forget to turn off if you're scanning a document, and (b) you can easily forget to check for if you've just received said document and are in the process of uploading it to the Whitehouse website. Which is obviously what happened here.

P.S. - Anyone who uses the phrase "Useful Idiots" is, in turn, an idiot. And much less intelligent than a sundazed chimp that's been specifically bred to test the developmental effects of pistol whippings on posting ability. You're welcome.

With all the resources of the United States Government at his disposal, it looks like Zer0 had one of his daughters make this up on her laptop. Pathetic. Wonder who he'll sacrifice to the bus god for this one?

I knew from the jump that Oblah-blah was NOT a natural born citizen of the U.S.A. this only confirms my initial thinking. Acutally according to Thomas Jefferson's note on Letters of Delagates to Congress: Volume 21 October 1, 1783 - Octover 31, 1784, Oblah blah would NOT qualify as a natural born citizen for the simple fact that his father was not a citizen....actual excerpt from Thomas Jefferson's note:

"The father a British subject; the son in America, adult, and within the description of an American citizen, according to their laws. Can the son inherit?
He owes no allegiance to Great B. The treaty acknowleges he does not. But allegiance is the test of a natural subject. Were he to do an act here which would be treason in a British subject he could not be punished should he happen to go there.
He owes allegiance to the states. He is an alien then and cannot inherit...
11 hours ago ·

that's the part people are forgetting...Abercrombie says the original is IN ARCHIVES. This means it was placed into microfich (sp.?)...and that's why the sample shown on WMD of another person born at the same time as Obama in Hawaii shows up in B&W and inversed (Black background and WHITE print). Things do not add up....all Obama did today was to give the conservatives who wish to distance themselves from this issue an out. Many conservatives were willing to buy into the short form COLB and newspaper announcements theory...like Beck...but now this. This is designed with one thing in mind, like Rush said, to bolster public support in favor of believing he was born here. With only 38% believing it yesterday, he HAD to come up with something to pull that number up...otherwise, he can't just ignorw the issue.

Abercrombie claimed the original is in archives. I would be very curious to find out what form "archived" birth certificates from 1961 take...are them on microfilm like so many other docs from that era are...and as the sample one on WND shows...or do they keep the very original and just store them somewhere and microfilm them for backup and easier access?

lots of good points, Charlotte...the certificate number issue might be a case of when the original docs made it from the hospitals to the county clerk's office and in what order they were filed. They don't always get stamped the exact moment they come into the office...they can pile up and literally get out of "order" and there is no requirement on their part to re-arrange them based upon day and time of birth.

I assume Pam is having her document expert review this. I will await his examination.

You are all insane.

Or maybe.... Adobe is part of the conspiracy(!)(?)

"And so the question is, why release such an obvious forgery?"

The answer is so painfully simple! Just open the blinds of your racism and it is all very clear. There is no conspiracy. He is who he is; an American who is now our president. Get over it. Until then you will be in denial.

Fine, I get it, you don't like how he is governing our country. As a progressive, I don't think he has done that great of a job either. He has proven to be way too far towards the center (even over the line, if you ask me). Why on Earth in this economy do we still have the lowest tax rates? How about going back to the tax rates during the Clinton years where a surplus was amassed? Will I vote for him again? Most certainly! Who else? The GOP has not produced anyone even remotely close to being a legitimate replacement.

n4b- yes, it is racism. Like Donald, you probably have very good relations with "the blacks".

Pamela: Bingo! Look at the original at Gateway Pundit. You can see it's the one the forger ripped off: http://tinyurl.com/64onl9j

Uuuuhhhh, little peter, it sounds like you're calling God a fucking and pathetic worthless whore. Is that really what you are saying or do you just need to learn how to speak English? I'm sure everyone here is waiting with baited breath for the next pearl of wisdom from such an intellectual giant as yourself. ---- NOT

"muzzy" aaaaaaahhhhhhhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahaaaaaaaaa "muzzy" heeheeeheeee, that's really rich, "muzzy" hahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I say, the Trump can easily fork out a $1,000,000 reward (or a job, natch!) to whoever comes forward with proof that he did the editing job for Obama!

The curvature of the left side of the document is supposed to indicate that the image was scanned from a reamed book. HOWEVER, in that curvature, the green horizontal and virtical lines do not curve with the curvature. DEFINITELY layered. A fake.

Good one, Peace out!

No mater where you go SIS, ya ain't goin to find the truth on this dude. He's CIA developed just like Clinton and da Bushs!

Anyone who still believes that Obama was not born in a Hawaii is certifiably insane. You still believe that aliens crashed at Roswell too doncha? Wingnuts.

Hawaii government hands over Obama's birth records
By MARK NIESSE, Associated Press – 1 hr 56 mins ago

HONOLULU – Until this week, Hawaii officials said they wouldn't release original birth records for anyone, under any circumstances. Even if it was President Barack Obama.

Then they heard from the president himself.

"I am writing to request two certified copies of my original certificate of live birth," the president wrote on White House letterhead, dated April 22.

State officials then decided to make an exception to a 2001 policy that prohibited anyone from getting a photocopy of an original birth certificate. They usually hand out computer-generated versions.

Obama's waiver was the first since 2001. Officials said it would be the last.

By Wednesday, Obama had his copies, releasing them to dispel questions from so-called "birthers" and some Republicans who believe he wasn't born in the U.S. and therefore is ineligible to be president.

At a news conference, he pleaded for the long "sideshow" to end. Many of the skeptics suggest Obama was actually born in Kenya, his father's home country, or Indonesia, where he spent a few years of his childhood.

Since Obama's election, the state was inundated with up to 20 weekly requests for various birth records related to Obama, although that number has since dropped significantly.

It got to the point where legislators passed a law allowing state officials to ignore the repeated requests.

In recent days, potential Republican presidential candidate and reality TV star Donald Trump began questioning why Obama had not ensured the original be released.

On April 22, Obama and his personal attorney wrote letters to Health Director Loretta Fuddy.

In them, they argued that a waiver would allow Obama to make public his original birth certificate and relieve the state from the burdens that came with the repeated inquiries.

"We hope that issuing certified copies of the original certificate of live birth to President Obama will end the numerous inquiries related to his birth in Hawaii," Fuddy said in a prepared statement Wednesday.

Fuddy said she viewed the records and that they "further prove the fact that he was born in Hawaii."

After Fuddy approved the exception, Obama's attorney, Judith L. Corley, picked up the documents in Hawaii and carried them back to Washington on a plane. The documents arrived around 5 p.m. Tuesday.

State law prohibits the release of birth records except to those with a "tangible interest," such as the person named.

Only computer-generated birth certificates have been issued since May 2001. The 2001 policy was created to satisfy requests for certified copies and to comply with state laws restricting disclosure of some birth details.

Before then, photocopies of original birth records were provided.

Hawaii's computer-generated birth certificates carry a raised state seal and a signature stamp from the state registrar. They're valid documents for obtaining driver's licenses and other government documents.

That's the type of birth certificate the Obama campaign released in 2008. The computer-generated version does not include such details as the signatures of the mother and the delivering doctor.

Last Tuesday, the state attorney general's office said there were "no circumstances" when the state would release original birth records.

Officials said Wednesday that the exception for Obama complied with the law, and they would continue to protect the confidentiality of vital statistics, such as birth records.

Obama paid $14 for the copies, said Donalyn Dela Cruz, a spokeswoman for Democratic Gov. Neil Abercrombie, who knew Obama's parents and says he had laid eyes on a young Obama.

"Considering all the investigations that have been done and the information that has been provided, no rational person can question the president's citizenship," Abercrombie said in a prepared statement.

"We have found a way — once again — to confirm what we already knew."

___
Online:

http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/obama.html


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110428/ap_on_re_us/us_obama_birth_hawaii

GE seems to have good relations with this man. How about ZERO tax on 14 BILLION. Not Bad!

Get over YOUR Racism, theres only two colors in this country, Red and GREEN, which GREEN trumps red.

rooke Doris said...

Anyone who still believes that Obama was not born in a Hawaii is certifiably insane. You still believe that aliens crashed at Roswell too, and Oswald didn't act alone, or that there were WMD in Iraq, doncha? Wingnuts.

Hawaii government hands over Obama's birth records
By MARK NIESSE, Associated Press – 1 hr 56 mins ago

HONOLULU – Until this week, Hawaii officials said they wouldn't release original birth records for anyone, under any circumstances. Even if it was President Barack Obama.

Then they heard from the president himself.

"I am writing to request two certified copies of my original certificate of live birth," the president wrote on White House letterhead, dated April 22.

State officials then decided to make an exception to a 2001 policy that prohibited anyone from getting a photocopy of an original birth certificate. They usually hand out computer-generated versions.

Obama's waiver was the first since 2001. Officials said it would be the last.

By Wednesday, Obama had his copies, releasing them to dispel questions from so-called "birthers" and some Republicans who believe he wasn't born in the U.S. and therefore is ineligible to be president.

At a news conference, he pleaded for the long "sideshow" to end. Many of the skeptics suggest Obama was actually born in Kenya, his father's home country, or Indonesia, where he spent a few years of his childhood.

Since Obama's election, the state was inundated with up to 20 weekly requests for various birth records related to Obama, although that number has since dropped significantly.

It got to the point where legislators passed a law allowing state officials to ignore the repeated requests.

In recent days, potential Republican presidential candidate and reality TV star Donald Trump began questioning why Obama had not ensured the original be released.

On April 22, Obama and his personal attorney wrote letters to Health Director Loretta Fuddy.

In them, they argued that a waiver would allow Obama to make public his original birth certificate and relieve the state from the burdens that came with the repeated inquiries.

"We hope that issuing certified copies of the original certificate of live birth to President Obama will end the numerous inquiries related to his birth in Hawaii," Fuddy said in a prepared statement Wednesday.

Fuddy said she viewed the records and that they "further prove the fact that he was born in Hawaii."

After Fuddy approved the exception, Obama's attorney, Judith L. Corley, picked up the documents in Hawaii and carried them back to Washington on a plane. The documents arrived around 5 p.m. Tuesday.

State law prohibits the release of birth records except to those with a "tangible interest," such as the person named.

Only computer-generated birth certificates have been issued since May 2001. The 2001 policy was created to satisfy requests for certified copies and to comply with state laws restricting disclosure of some birth details.

Before then, photocopies of original birth records were provided.

Hawaii's computer-generated birth certificates carry a raised state seal and a signature stamp from the state registrar. They're valid documents for obtaining driver's licenses and other government documents.

That's the type of birth certificate the Obama campaign released in 2008. The computer-generated version does not include such details as the signatures of the mother and the delivering doctor.

Last Tuesday, the state attorney general's office said there were "no circumstances" when the state would release original birth records.

Officials said Wednesday that the exception for Obama complied with the law, and they would continue to protect the confidentiality of vital statistics, such as birth records.

Obama paid $14 for the copies, said Donalyn Dela Cruz, a spokeswoman for Democratic Gov. Neil Abercrombie, who knew Obama's parents and says he had laid eyes on a young Obama.

"Considering all the investigations that have been done and the information that has been provided, no rational person can question the president's citizenship," Abercrombie said in a prepared statement.

"We have found a way — once again — to confirm what we already knew."

___
Online:

http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/obama.html


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110428/ap_on_re_us/us_obama_birth_hawaii

I'm disappointed. I thought under sex he would be listed as a hermaphrodite. Guess he's just a standard run of the mill Metro Sexual. LOL!

Why on Earth in this economy do we have the highest corporate tax rates in the industrialized world? Don't you understand that 1) those taxes are paid by consumers; and 2) they are demonstrably a brake on the economy?

Why are we the only nation on earth whose "leaders" are so dead-set against using our own abundant energy resources? Why do they keeping dreaming airy dreams of windmills and solar panels as far as the eye can see, while financing oil drilling in Brazil and saying we'll be their "best customer"?

Why have Democrats stubbornly clung to the same so-called "stimulus" policies that turned recession into the Great Depression?

Why have Democrats piled up a crushing debt burden on us, and when anyone offers a serious plan to avert a crisis, they screech lies about making the disabled fend for themselves?

Why do the Democrats insist on devaluing our currency while they make our energy more expensive?

Why do Democrats constantly attack the creators and producers of society, while trying to maximize the numbers of those who live on checks from the taxpayers, and make sure that government employees have much better pensions than we can provide for ourselves when they're done squeezing us?

When will leftists get a clue?

Anyone who voted for Obama and still defends him is certifiably insane.

When the Corsi book was announced and Donald Trump pushed the issue, I had this feeling that the BC would show up soon and would be a fraud. Funny how it showed up when the heat was applied recently. Timing should give the doubters a clue that the president behind the fraudulent BC is a fraud himself.

I want to believe you, "Patti York" (if that is your real name) but until YOU post your BC online, I can't assume you're telling the truth.

Obama Birth Certificate Scam?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eOfYwYyS_c

You've undermined your own point. Please stop posting, as your stupidity is a blight on the "birther" movement.

Yes! The UNDOCUMENTED "document expert" working under the nome du internet "techdude" it's like an image of Jeff Bridges in the big Lbowski behind the computer. LOL!

So chock full of shit, it had to be posted twice.

The operative phrase at the bottom is that it is a “COPY OR ABSTRACT” (abstract meaning lifted summary information; not necessarily complete information or a reproduction of the entire document.)
(hat tip to DrCary, commentator at Post & EMail News)

What’s important to know: Fuddy of the HDOH says this is a “computer-generated certified copy” produced outside their usual policies, which she gave herself authority to waive, just in Obama’s case, because he’s the president. What’s a computer-generated certified copy? That could include and probably does include a photoshopped image like we see here. This in no way is an actual photocopy of the original long-form birth certificate.

(hat tip to SapphireSunday, commentator at Post & Email News)

From Fox News: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/04/27/obama-birth-certificate-moved-secure-location-months-ago/#ixzz1Km2BoUni

“Officials in Hawaii had said state law PROHIBITS THEM FROM RELEASING THE INFORMATION CONTAINED IN THE FULL BIRTH CERTIFICATE FILING – EVEN IF THE PRESIDENT HIMSELF REQUESTED A COPY. But that didn’t stop the president from requesting last week two certified copies of certificate of live birth from Director of Health Loretta J. Fuddy. On Monday, Fuddy complied. ‘As director of health for the state of Hawaii, I have the legal authority TO APPROVE THE PROCESS by which copies of such records are made. Through that authority, in recognition of your status as president of the United States, I am MAKING AN EXCEPTION to the current departmental policy which is TO ISSUE A COMPUTER-GENERATED CERTIFIED COPY,’ she wrote.”

The exception was to issue a COMPUTER-GENERATED certified copy. So they admit it’s computer generated. That might include all the photoshopping that seems to be in evidence. Another exception might be to not print the late or delayed or amended notification. Another exception might be to make this an abstract containing only the LATEST (most recent) permutation of all the facts contained in the “full birth certificate filing.” Which might mean elimination of the names of the biological parents, if he was adopted, replaced by the adoptive parents. Which might mean elimination of his name at birth, as opposed to what it is now, after being amended in their records. Which might mean elimination of the fact that at birth no father was named, but one was later added, via amendment, but this computer-generated abstract isn’t showing that out of deference to his status as president. You see how it goes?

Even he can’t get access to the FULL information. So what was embarrassing on the original that is now not evident on this supposed long-form which is NOT a TRUE COPY OF HIS ORIGINAL LONG-FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE? It’s a computer-generated abstract, created just for him outside their usual policies and procedures. Didn’t a legislator want to pass a law so they could do just this? Create a “something” especially for Obama? Well, looks like it’s been done without a special law.
(again, thank you to SapphireSunday, commentator at Post & Email News, for the preceding two paragraphs. I could have rewritten them and made them my own but I couldn't have worded them better.)

From Fox News: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/04/27/obama-birth-certificate-moved-secure-location-months-ago/#ixzz1Km2BoUni

[Said Attorney General David Louie,] “Director Fuddy exercised her legal authority in a completely appropriate manner in this unique circumstance.

(snip)

Abercrombie issued the following statement on Wednesday:

“Considering all of the investigations that have been done and the information that has been provided, no rational person can question the President’s citizenship. We have found a way – once again – to confirm what we already knew: the President was born here in Hawai‘i. State officials of both parties have verified that President Obama’s birth records show that he was born in Honolulu.

OCR produces text, not images.

LMAO! I was wondering how long it would be before an 0bot tried to play the race card. It must be terribly disappointing to you all that he is only half black, but it does shift attention away from the real issue, even if only for a few seconds, doesn't it dear?

0bama's own words: "I am writing to request two certified copies of my original certificate of live birth,"...
He is still not releasing the LONG FORM ORIGINAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE. All he did was request more copies of the short form COLB, which has been proven to be a forgery. Only 38% of the American people now believe he was born in America, not the kind of numbers politicians running for reelection like to see.

Having Herman Cain as president would fix this problem.

BettySue, it's always painful for the "useful idiots" (as Stalin so aptly named them) when they realize that their masters and handlers view them as disposable tools and cannon fodder. People like Muzzy, Pete and the other trolls are the thow-away equivalent of CD's from AOL that came in computer magazines a few years back...

I know! Pretty sick and twisted. Obama is not directly to blame for that, though I do think he is a bit of a corporate shill but that is pretty much how political system works.

Corporate brakes like GE's have been around for a long time.

1) We obviously listen to different economists. Trickle down does not work very well.

2) For better or worse, we like to exploit our neighbors yard instead of our own. Wind and solar farms are making a difference!

3) Lucky we are not sure what would have happened if we hadn't spent money on stimulus. The economists that I listen to say we would be in much worse shape.

4) Who? Go on telling yourself that the whole debt blame is on Obama's shoulders while I will point to Bush jr for the majority of it.

5) What?

6) That is just an over used battle cry of the far right. I do agree that not just gov employees should have nice benis. Glad you think we should have universal health care.

7) When will the wacky right get a clue?

I do have to compliment all 4 of the response to my post for not bring up this bc bs. You are much better for it. Why bother when there are much better things to worry about?

All of this birtherism crap reminds me of the 'earth is flat' people or Billy O- 'god exists because I can't explain or understand why the Sun comes up.'

That's truly nonsense. All vocabulary at the Hawaii Dept of Health pertaining to computer copies pertains to the change from hard-copy archives to computer storage of scans.

That's one of the better videos. This one from Alex Jones is quite good too:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3g30VCl_cgk

This amateur video is illustrative of the overall problem as well:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vk5bX1ip6r4

Look at 5b. Hour in the PDF document. The "M" is too big to be capital, and the shape is not small. What struck me was that when using manual typewriters, paper must often be adjusted to whiteout a mistake, yet I can't see this happening in something so simple as p.m. Again, just look at that "M" - something isn't right. Also, look at the period after the p and the m, in p.m. - the differences are striking and impossible if typed on one single typewriter.

I've used typewriters extensively in the past and the differences in 13, mother's maiden name also jumped out at me. The S is light, other letters are dark. This ONLY happens on manual typewriters whereby the darkness of the letters are dependent upon the force of the stroke, i.e., light strokes, light letters and heavy strokes, dark letters. Light strokes are often associated with the 5th digit, the pinkie.

If Hawaii was using typewriters such as IBM Selectric, the image is consistent regardless of the pressure of the stroke. This is improbable as the IBM introduced it on July 31, 1961

There are MANY other things that struck me, but I'll leave these to those whose profession deals with this.
Finally, I'd examine the attending physician to see if he were at the hospital during those times or possibly at conferences, vacation, etc.

Hey, who scrubbed the metadata? Why was the metadata scrubbed?
Open PDF file, under File > Properties, click to see what's NOT there.
I only know of one commercial organization worldwide that scrubs Metadata and they're based in UK.
Heck, even NSA-redact.pdf Report # I333-015R-2005 has metadata listed.
Yo, wassup O?

The more people involved in this scam, the more people will end up in jail unless granted immunity for telling the truth.

If it's forged, then state officials in Hawaii should be issuing a statement to that affect any minute now ... yep, any ... minute ... now.

What about his various SS#'s???

Just so you don't get wound up about the M in the P.m......the M is preprinted on the form in a small capital M to force whoever is filling out the form to put a P or an A in front of it to signify whether it was night or day. Most would merely put the time as most in those days weren't used to putting AM or PM after the time. There are plenty of other inconsistencies on the form to prove it is a fake....the M in P.m. isn't one of them. One thing that stands out to me is the fact that some of the blocks are filled in with all caps. They didn't have "Caps Lock" on the old typewriters.....it would have been very very cumbersome for a clerk to hold down the shift ket the entire time they were typing. Proper English was a VERY big deal in those days and every proper name would have been typed correctly.

You're a turd.

" FREEDOM TORCH " HAS POSTED THIS FAKE, FORGED, FRAUD AT 3 X MAGNIFICATION ALSO .
TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT THE SIGNATURE ON BOTTOM ~ U K LE LEE. ALL DAY LONG I HAVE BEEN INSPIRED
TO PLAY MY ukulele AND SING THE BEAUTIFUL SONGS OF HAWAI'I NEI .
THE BIRTH CERTIFICATES FOR THE NORDYKE TWINS ARE BLACK WITH WHITE LETTERING,JUST AS MINE FROM TEXAS.
THIS AMATEURISH ATTEMPT TO CREATE A DOCUMENT IS SO OBVIOUS THAT IT REALLY IS AN APRIL FOOLS JOKE.

HUGE CONGRATULATIONS TO LADY PAMELA AND "ATLAS SHRUGS" FOR 26,000,000 VIEWS.

Why didn't they just take a picture of the birth certificate and link to the JPEG image?

"Pistol whippings" might appeal to an Islamic sense of jurisprudence. Maybe you should re-locate to an Islamic state.

It would seem to me the only people making grabs for immortality by killing people these days
are Muslim.

I prefer 12 gauge loaded w/00 buckshot shotshells myself

OK. The thing to me is that.....
1. IF this is a scanned copy, why is the left side still bent away?
Scanning it using OCR doesn't explain why it would layer it with the main document body (the square section around the main text area) its own layer.

2. How does that explain the section that looks "cut" away on the left side of the document?
If you look at the whole document, it looks like the main body has been put into a frame. What else would explain the fact that you can see the bend in the paper that disappears behind the "frame" to its left? there is clearly more paper on the bent section than would bend up and meet the section to its left.

My opinion it that this the main body is from a photograph. It has the look of an image that was taken at an angle, as if someone standing at a table looking at the document.

If it is a photocopy, the document wouldn't be bent on the left like that. This is likely a photograph of a document. And there is also the fact that in the section bent back there is visible writing on that section. So, what is written there?

I just tried it.

VERY interesting, indeed!

Believe what you want to believe. As for me, I have no reason to doubt that there's a reason for the disclaimer stamped on the document itself.

The bottom portion of the Nordyke twins' Hawaii DOH Certificates of Live Birth includes a statement that it is "a true and correct copy of the record on file..." http://nativeborncitizen.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/nordyke-61.gif

The bottom portion of the document released yesterday includes a statement that it is "a true copy or an abstract of txe record on file..."

Here's the document presented yesterday, including the stamped bottom portion.

Hey, I just found this nutty website. Are you all for real? Regarding the birth certificate "layers" controversy, read this -- some educated person wrote it:

"It's called OCR (optical character recognition). Acrobat and many scanners do this by default. It detects letters and words on the page and allows you to add selectable text to the document without having to type it in manually. Notice how when you hide a layer, it's white behind it? If it was truly forged, you wouldn't see any of the background missing. It's white because it doesn't know what's behind the text BECAUSE THE TEXT WAS THERE WHEN IT WAS SCANNED."

Did that make make your eyes bleed? Probably not -- you're immune to reason.

By the way, you know Ayn Rand was an Atheist, right? Not that there's anything wrong with that. Just thought you should know.

Why does Obama claim both a Certificate of Live Birth now, and a
CertificaTION of Live Birth before the election? Why would anyone have both?

Hey, nobody's perfect. How like a lib to identify with one of her few objectionable characteristics.

As to the OCR argument, that's been debunked. See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eOfYwYyS_c , among others.

Auntie, I can see you are well-intentioned, but your position reflects that you have a lack of experience dealing with government documents, government recorders and government registrars.

A true and correct copy means a photocopy, a scan or a microfilm of an original document. An abstract of a record means that the essential data has been entered into a database and printed out as a standard form.

Neither of these two methods implies or authorizes the kind of cut-and-paste work demonstrated in this document released by Obama.

I suppose you believe in a flat earth too.

Yeah, everyone who screams "racism" at any questioning whatsoever of the Barack Obama mystique seems conveniently to ignore that many of us are fans of Herman Cain and Allen West.

As someone on another website said, I wouldn't like BO if his ancestors had come over on the Mayflower. It's the CONTENT OF HIS CHARACTER, not the COLOR OF HIS SKIN. Sound familiar?

That's because you were issued a special certificate, reserved only for non-Muslim, non-socialist white 'mericns. Congratulations.

It can also use images, just not recognize them. You can scan pictures and text and hope to get the equivalent in your scanned document. OCRs have been able to produce mixed documents for years.

Do you know that there are other programs than Adobe Acrobat that can scan documents and output PDFs?

Thank you Steve, never knew that partial words were already preprinted.
I'm still very curious about the scrubbing of metadata.

Another point that many aren't even talking about...
Why did 0bama release a fake COLB short form a few years ago?
Compare the old one with the one released this week.
Totally different.
So which one are we to believe?
Makes you wonder.

"Fake, but accurate." -- Dan Rather

Until they release *how* the document was scanned, everything (oooo layers, consipiracy) is just (wishful) speculation.

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