WTF? If you think Obama is merely confused, I got a bridge in Brooklyn that has your name on it.
This is pure chaos, and the media's delivery of such insane news in a sober and matter-of-fact fashion is even more insane.
NATO Warns Rebels Against Attacking Civilians NY Times
WASHINGTON — Members of the NATO alliance have sternly warned the rebels in Libya not to attack civilians as they push against the government of Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi, according to senior military and government officials.
As NATO takes over control of airstrikes in Libya, and the Obama administration considers new steps to tip the balance of power there, the coalition has told the rebels that if they endanger civilians, they will not be shielded from possible bombardment by NATO planes and missiles, just as the government’s forces have been punished.
“We’ve been conveying a message to the rebels that we will be compelled to defend civilians, whether pro-Qaddafi or pro-opposition,” said a senior Obama administration official. “We are working very hard behind the scenes with the rebels so we don’t confront a situation where we face a decision to strike the rebels to defend civilians.”
The warnings, and intense consultations within the NATO-led coalition over its rules for attacking anyone who endangers innocent civilians, come at a time when the civil war in Libya is becoming ever more chaotic, and the battle lines ever less distinct. They raise a fundamental question that the military is now grappling with: who in Libya is a civilian?
Qaddafi. Qaddafi's a civilian.
Finally, I understand what the left meant when they shreiked "quagmire" during the Bush years, and yet I haven't heard it uttered once.




What, and you are surprised....really??
Posted by: Lillith | Thursday, March 31, 2011 at 11:30 PM
How does it feel to be Israel???
You'd think they'd get a clue...
Posted by: Alice | Thursday, March 31, 2011 at 11:52 PM
Do we bomb the rebels before or after we give them guns?
Posted by: Chance | Thursday, March 31, 2011 at 11:52 PM
...all NONmuslims are still fair game...mooov along...nuttin to see here
Posted by: but obviously... | Friday, April 01, 2011 at 12:12 AM
it is!...it isn't!!! it is!!!!!! it isn't!!!!!!
right, left, right, right , left, left again, up, down, right, right, left,
follow?
will we survive till 2012 and then will we be sane and remove this cancer?
Posted by: DanS. | Friday, April 01, 2011 at 12:22 AM
This move is right out of the Clinton era foreign policy play book.
We should know already that nothing good will come of this.
Posted by: telly | Friday, April 01, 2011 at 01:13 AM
This: “We’ve been conveying a message to the rebels that we will be compelled to defend civilians, whether pro-Qaddafi or pro-opposition,”
Is it not a little late to show (faux) concern for civilians when the rebels and the bombing by our own forces have already killed so many people? And what about the 'rebels' specifically killing black africans, believing they are all pro-gadaffi supporters or mercenaries, when many of them were just ordinary people working in Libya.
Nigel Farrage of UKIP said a few days ago that there are 4,000 troops edging closer to Libya. So these Hitlerites - the UN, Obama, Cameron and Sarkozy, the manufacturers of this war, must have intentions of sending our troops into this quagmire. (G*d help Obama and Cameron if one drop of Forces blood is spilt - bring back hanging for Treason, I would gladly put the rope around their necks.)
Are there any normal, sane, moral folk around other than the ones participating in this blog? Why is no one standing up to these demented Fuhrers in the USA, UK and France? Why are we all allowing this to continue and where are the outraged voices of the opposition?
Posted by: dented | Friday, April 01, 2011 at 01:33 AM
What a creative idea for spending America further into the red: fighting on both sides of a Kinetic whatever (not a war-war, to paraphrase Whoopie Goldberg).
Posted by: AuntieMadder | Friday, April 01, 2011 at 02:19 AM
The French have fought an undeclared war by proxy against Gaddafi before. Look up the Toyota War.
Gaddafi tried a land grab in northern Chad and got a whupping in 1987.
He wanted the Aouzou Strip, territory that had been handed over to Italy after WW1 but returned to France after WW2. Territory was transferred to compensate a disgruntled Italy who had lost out when former German colonies were distributed between UK, British dominions, France, Belgium, Portugal and Japan despite Italy being on the 'right' side in WW1. Gaddafi decided that it was rightfully his, took advantage of a civil war in Chad, grabbed the territory in 1983, and carried on providing support to the Chadian rebels including air strikes.
France intervened militarily in Chad and halted the rebel forces who were aided by Gaddafi. For a time there was a ceasefire with rebels and Libyans occupying Chad north of the 16th parallel. Renewed attacks on Chad government forces in 1986 were followed by France imposing a no-fly zone over all of Chad and supplying Chad with MILAN anti-tank missiles mounted on Toyota Land Cruiser "technicals". Gaddafi had to slink back home in 1987 with his tail between his legs.
I wonder if talk about CIA in Libya is just smokescreen and France is training Libyan rebels in use of anti-tank missiles right now.
Posted by: Tom Billesley | Friday, April 01, 2011 at 03:27 AM
Faux drapeau?
the rebels and the bombing by our own forces have already killed so many people
Now there's an unproven allegation.
Posted by: Tom Billesley | Friday, April 01, 2011 at 03:38 AM
P.S. The difference this time is that "Little Emperor" Sarko has conned the USA and UK into sharing the costs and risks.
Posted by: Tom Billesley | Friday, April 01, 2011 at 03:53 AM
Come to think of it, François Mitterrand would have had a harder task
to persuade Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher to get involved than
Sarkozy had with Obama and Cameron-Clegg.
Posted by: Tom Billesley | Friday, April 01, 2011 at 04:05 AM
Look at all their own principles and the daily doses of reality the Left have decided to ignore to defend Obama:
GE pays no taxes. Silence from the Left.
Obama takes us to war #3. Silence from the Left.
Sarah Palin called a t***. Then a c***. Silence from the feminist Left.
Economy in shambles. Silence from the Left.
Foreign policy a disaster. Silence from the Left.
Pump prices have doubled under Obama.
Food/clothing prices skyrocket. Silence from the Left.
Over 30 Czars. Silence from the Left.
Obama loses Democratic party over 700 seats. Silence from the Left.
NPR busted in full bias. Silence from the Left.
GTMO still open. Silence from the Left.
2 wars still on, one with record death toll. Silence from the Left.
All Democrat Congressional and Senate representatives are millionaires, multimillionaires, or billionaires. Silence from the Left.
Obama ignores nuclear disaster now reaching our shores. Silence from the Left.
Obama delivers oil rig contract to Soros-owned Petrobas so they can drill for oil in gulf and sell it to us. Silence from the Left.
Posted by: Twisted Sister | Friday, April 01, 2011 at 06:07 AM
My head starting spinning just reading the headline. This is what we get when we let community organizers start wars.
Regardless of who each of us voted for, or against, this lies with us, the voters who allow the cesspool we call DC to thrive.
What have we wrought America?
Posted by: sDee | Friday, April 01, 2011 at 08:49 AM
Wilders announces anti-Mohammed film
Published on 1 April 2011 - 12:41pm
Freedom Party leader Geert Wilders is planning to make a follow up to his anti-Qur'an film Fitna. This time he will focus on the Muslim prophet Mohammed.
The controversial MP announced on Friday that his film on "the barbaric life and the sick mind of Mohammed" will come out in 2012.
Earlier this week, Mr Wilders said in weekly HP/De Tijd that he wanted a public debate on the prophet. He thinks such a debate would provide support for Muslims across the whole world who want to leave the religion. He says reading the Qur'an and looking at the life of Mohammed has made him aware that Islam is "dangerous".
Mr Wilders believes a debate is needed, because people who want to leave Islam risk their lives. He thinks ex-Muslims are heroes who deserve support.
In HP/De Tijd he says, "It's time we help these people by exposing Mohammed." In the article, he suggests that Mohammed suffered from a brain tumour which made him hallucinate and that he wrote down his hallucinations down as visions.
There was a great deal of commotion in the run up to his first film Fitna. However, once it was published on the internet in 2008, most people wondered what all the fuss had been about. A second film was planned for 2010, but the early elections meant a delay in its production.
Posted by: Buddahfan | Friday, April 01, 2011 at 09:18 AM
It's ALL GOOD with the left, they HATE America and they want to destroy America and create their Global Utobia!
Posted by: Mac-101 | Friday, April 01, 2011 at 09:40 AM
You are like a rash over the web, copy pasting your findings in reams, talking to yourself - not in the mood to do your homework/cp'n today, or are you going to give this one a convenient miss? Bad taste in mouth? Tough.
Posted by: dented | Friday, April 01, 2011 at 10:37 AM
You are so right on. What a clusterf--k. This nation run by absolute idiots.
Posted by: Auntie Gin | Friday, April 01, 2011 at 12:35 PM
OOH! The President has warned them Does any one think for one moment the radicals over there give a damn what this clown thinks?! I'll tell you what is happening1 They see a weak kneed Muslim leaning clown who they can tell to F---off! and do what they want!!!!
Posted by: joetote | Friday, April 01, 2011 at 01:46 PM
This administration will go down in history as the most erratic, radical,twisted and just plain stupid that America has ever had. I mean, they can't even get everyone on the same page. Gates says Libya is not in our national interests, but Clinton says the opposite..... and of course messiah Obama votes PRESENT.
Posted by: mcap | Friday, April 01, 2011 at 05:35 PM
Replying to chance,
thats a good one.Do we bomb them before or after we give them guns? What came first the chicken or the hen haha ...... What a skrew up.
Posted by: jo | Saturday, April 02, 2011 at 01:01 PM
Obamah is definatly mixed up, first he kisses the qua-ran then he says will bomb if you hit us. Thankgod Cameron did not kiss there arse and he is not the president of the US.
Posted by: jo | Saturday, April 02, 2011 at 01:06 PM
Obamah is a weak president
Posted by: jo | Saturday, April 02, 2011 at 01:07 PM
dented, I'm undaunted.
Posted by: Tom Billesley | Sunday, April 03, 2011 at 06:38 AM
Meanwhile folks like you need no proof that the state of Libya is mowing down people in cold blood. Thus, when it comes from mouths of the highest professional liars, you believe it without question. Fact of the matter, it has been confirmed many times the fact that they have been grabbing black people at random, slicing them up with knives, axes and scythes, burning them, stringing them up to street lamps. You could find this on the web if you wanted to, but it seems you would rather not.
Posted by: Nelson Rappaport | Thursday, May 19, 2011 at 11:08 AM
Non sequitur.
Posted by: Tom Billesley | Friday, May 20, 2011 at 06:24 PM