Hitler Lover Loughner Targeted First Jewish Congresswoman from Arizona, Gabrielle Giffords

In this video, the Arizona political leftwing radical mass slaughterer, Jared Loughner, is dressed up as a terrorist as he sets the American flag on fire. The song you hear is "Let the bodies hit the floor" by the Drowning Pool, the same song the US government used to an interrogation tool at GITMO.

Further, it is now official that Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords was indeed the target. It bears noting that Giffords is the first Jewish congresswoman elected from that state (Atlas was one of the first to point that out early yesterday). One of Loughner's favorite books is Hitler's Mein Kampf.

It is on the left where the Jew-hatred and demonization of Israel is found today. Jew-hatred and anti-Israel rhetoric is a major platform, a cause celebre of the left.

BTW, Atlas had the youtube vids of this killer first .........

"At Guantanamo, the U.S. government turned a jukebox into an instrument of torture," said Thomas Blanton, executive director of the archive, an independent, nongovernmental research institute.

A November 2008 report by the Senate Armed Services Committee into the treatment of detainees in U.S. custody makes several references to the use of loud music as an interrogation tool.

In one case interrogators played music to "stress" Mohamedou Ould Slahi, a citizen of Mauritania who has been at Guantanamo for more than seven years, because he believed music is forbidden, the report says.

Over a 10-day period in July 2003, Slahi was questioned by an interrogator called "Mr. X" while being "exposed to variable lighting patterns" and repeated playing of a song called "Let the Bodies Hit the Floor" by the band Drowning Pool, according to the committee's report. (more here)

BTW, he was never in the army. The left was calling him an Afghan war vet. No. He attempted to enlist in 2008, but the army rejected this killer.

UPDATE: Anti-semitic group denies connection to Loughner: (FOX)

A law enforcement memo based on information provided by DHS and obtained by Fox News suggested strong suspicion linking Jared Loughner, the man accused in the Tucson shooting on Saturday, to what it called an "anti-ZOG (Zionist Occupational Government) and anti-semitic" group known as American Renaissance.

In an effort to counter those charges, the head of the organization responded directly to Fox News' James Rosen on Sunday.

Jared Taylor called DHS' views "scurrilous" and took especial issue with the reference to his group being "anti-ZOG."

"That is complete nonsense," he said. "I have absolutely no idea what DHS is talking about. We have never used the term 'ZOG.' We have never thought in those terms. If this is the level of research we are getting from DHS, then Heaven help us."

UPDATE: Loughner tie to American Renaissane debunked. More hapless DHS bumbling.

And since when does DHS use the term anti-ZOG (zionist occupied government. That's creepy and nazi.

Comments

[john jay]

pamela, friends:

quite incredible, the linking of the song by "drowning pool" to loughner's video and guantanamo interrogation techniques.

i wondered at the significance of the brown robe, and the black plastic garbage bag, worn by the person as he approached the flag. i also wondered at the notation on the film, "no left arm" (was it that arm), and the obvious efforts to mimic a one-armed person under the robe.

nothing appears accidental, in his use of symbolism, does it?

how long before a case is built that not only is this guy a leftist, but also a jihad/islamist sympathizer? this business with this song associated w/ gitmo, and the obvious references in the clothing ... .

the fact that he shot a congresswoman who he would have associated w/ "zionism" is not accidental, is it?

john jay
milton freewater, oregon usa

[Mike in San Diego]

I am wondering if he is a registered democrat? I bet he is. Can someone find this out?

My prayers go out to all the victims.

Pamela, keep up the good work. You're doing a great job getting the truth out about this monster.

[john jay]

p.s. oh, yes, in its own little way, this is a brilliant post. i think you have hit on something, pamela geller, and it is something that is quite significant.

he will turn out to have been anti-israeli, and pro-"palestinian," it seems to me. by george, i think you've got it!!

[Booty]

One of his favorite books was by Ayn Rand...

[john jay]

pamela, friends:

what means:
1.)the figure being one armed, having no left arm?
2.)the black plastic "pants"?

i am convinced that these are clues that offer his explanation for his beliefs & acts.

no, i haven't the foggiest notion, as to just what it all means? but, his version of the "unibomber's" "thesis," i think.

john jay
milton freewater, oregon usa

[rl]

He is a satanist.

[Marlene Weingart]

Too bad HE didn't catch on fire, then there would be a 9 year old, a congresswoman, a judge and others who would be getting out of bed to facae another beautiful day on G-d's green earth instead of lying on a cold slab in a morgue!!!
May G-d rest their souls.
This is mind numbing!!
Marlene
Roswell, GA

[Marlene Weingart]

I am sorry, I didn't mean to include the Congresswoman. She is still alive, albeit forever changed if she survives. I am praying for her.

[Joy]

Hey...I am a registar Democrat! The Progressives are not Democrats, they over took the Democrats. I am really independent but have to be one or the other for the primaries.

Thanks for the research Pamela...This is so weird did anyone even view it before the shootings? Did you notice the you tube hits?

[TWB]

This guy is a jackass looking for attention. He got it. And of course the entire left wing media structure is misinterpreting (on purpose) his motives. They're completely ignoring things like the above video and focusing on his disdain for paper currency. Oh, that must mean he's a fan of Glenn Beck. Wishful thinking on the part of the left. Sick.

Communist Manifesto, Mein Kampf, Yep, lots of Sarah Palin followers read those. Jackasses.

[Barry]

Sarah Palin is staunchly pro Israel and has worn a lapel pin that has the American flag and the Israeli flag side by side, so the leftwingers like Olberman and Geraldo Rivera who point their dirty fingers at Sarah are just trying to silence the new majority of Americans who see themselves as more in line with the Tea Party than either of the two major parties.
It won't work.

[SaraPAC]

Tea party haters, your violent hate has consequences. The killer that gunned down 19 people in AZ and killed 5 has been linked to an anti-immigrant group and had made statements about people being “illiterate.”

Who are the purveyors of this type of hate speech? Blogs like this one and people like the Tea Party leaders.

Tom Tancredo kicked off the tea party convention with such hate speech, reminicent of the killer.

He stated that many of the people who voted Obama into office “can’t even spell the word vote or even speak English,” which brought loud applause from the crowd. He went on to talk about the “cult of multiculturalism” which is “aided by leftists.”

Sounds just like the killer.

Hate speech has consequences, just as Rep. Giffords warned.

"Don’t retreat, reload." - Sarah Paln who put crosshairs on Giffords.

Glenn Beck recently spoke at CPAC, where he claimed America’s ills were due to progressivism and he compared progressivism to cancer – “it can’t co-exist. You must eradicate it! You must cut it out of the system!”

How clear it is. THIS is exactly what we hear from Glenn Beck:

Beck tells people Obama’s planning to kill them, that has consequences.

Beck warned of an impending Reichstag moment and power grab - targeting our leaders.

Byron Williams, armed to the teeth and wearing body armor, drives to San Francisco to shoot officials of the Tides Foundation and hopefully start a revolution, was it a coincidence that Glenn Beck targeted them with violent rhetoric?

When Glenn Beck fan Richard Poplowski became so convinced that the Obama administration would take his guns that he gunned down three Pittsburgh policemen, Beck planted those seeds.

Your hate has consequences.

[Hainer]

The sheriff was not much help giving more of a political speech than press conference on the crime. Injecting political opinion into an investigation is something that is not needed or wanted.

[Blanco]

SaraPAC is another insane dirt bag spewing hatered all over the place. Your hate has consequences SaraPac.

[Poosh]

Which party has the president who constantly vilifies his political enemies whilst pretending to be non-partisan again?

Don't come to the Republican door with your imaginary claims of hate-speech when the REAL hate-speech came from your house.

[Poosh]

he is quite clearly an anti-american a the very least.

[Browns0286]

As disgusting as it is that the left is trying to link this to Sarah Palin, it's also pretty ridiculous trying to label this guy as a "leftwing radical." As an above poster mentioned, another of his favorite books is "We The Living" by Ayn Rand, and his anarchist-flavored anti-government rantings don't exactly smack of leftwing ideology, despite what this acquaintance of his might say. Trying to fit this guy's ideological ramblings into a neat political theory is an exercise in futility. It's disgusting to watch pundits on the left and right trying to push this guy's acts on the other side like a hot potato - does he have to be symbolic of a greater movement/group/ideology? Can't he just be crazy?

[John]

It would be iteresting to juxtipose the coverage of this event against that of Ft. Hood.

[Paulo Mendonca]

Two hours ago I watched a panel on CNN about the shooting.
They mentioned the name Sarah Palin ELEVEN (11) times in 10 minutes !!!
They mentioned the name Gabrielle Giffords one time.
and they mentioned the name Jared Loughner NONE.

The two liberal panelists were blaming Palin.

MSM, the true enemy.

Paulo
Brazil

[Granite Sentry]

Not surprising. I've got a new post tracking violent Leftist rhetoric back through some earlier controversies on my blog, www.granitesentry.com. Love to hear everybody's view.

[Rhinestone Suderman]

This guy is neither leftwing nor rightwing. He loves both the Communist Manifesto, and Mein Kampf, as well as "Wizard of Oz" (there's a dangerous book for ya!), "Fahrenheit 451 (a highly sensible book by highly sensible sci-fi writer, Ray Bradbury) and "Aesop's Fables!" (a VERY dangerous book, yah, right!)

Shall we blame Aesop, Bradbury and L. Frank Baum for warping his mind? (Actually, I suspect those like saraPAC would love to do just that! Baum, Aesop, Bradbury, those eeeeeeeviiiillllll rightwing writers!)

Oh, yes, he also believed he had mind control powers. In short, this guy was clearly a nut job. He'd already been in trouble with the cops before. Sorry, SaraPAC, we know you hate Sara (hate, hate, HATE!) but trying to pin this one on her isn't gonna fly. This guy was nuts, he had no ideology.

Don't retreat---don't reload---just get lost. Or, at least try actually thinking, instead of just blabbering leftist agitprop.

[Rhinestone Suderman]

I'm afraid this is going to be the trigger that the left will use to silence anybody who dares criticize Obama, the current administration or any of their policies.

(I'm also curious; where does the shooter say, in all his demented ramblings, that he's going to do this beause of his allegiance to the Tea Party, or because Sarah Palin, or Glen Beck, are controlling his mind? I thought he was the one with mental powers! (Sarc.) He doesn't even mention their books among his favorites, though "Alice in Wonderland" does make the list. Let's ban that! With all its talk of "Off with their heads!" and everybody changing shape, disappearing/re-appearing, it encourages violence! And it was probably ghostwritten by Sarah Palin, if not Rush Limbaugh, using their sooper seekrit time machine. Or something.)

[Rhinestone Suderman]

SaraPAC, that's a cute little novel you've written about Reichstag moments, etc., etc., etc.:

You got any real evidence to back it up? Or are you just blabbering?

(Your stupidity and malice won't have any dire consquences---but they're still stupid and malicious, all the same. Ranting doesn't make right. And, if there is a Reichstag moment, I doubt it will come from the right, the center or the Tea Party.)

[Rhinestone Suderman]

SaraPAC might be just another leftwing cement head. Or, maybe she's here to push the party agenda.

[Mike in San Diego]

Ya and you know who was also pro white and anti immigrant? Adolf Hitler! What group did he belong to? The NATIONAL SOCIALIST PARTY!

[Tom Billesley (?TypePad broken)]

FWIW
http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2011/01/09/american-renaissance-denies-dhs-charges-any-affiliation-shooter

A law enforcement memo based on information provided by DHS and obtained by Fox News suggested strong suspicion linking Jared Loughner, the man accused in the Tucson shooting on Saturday, to what it called an "anti-ZOG (Zionist Occupational Government) and anti-semitic" group known as American Renaissance.

[Et Norsk Troll]

Off Topic~

There appears to be some *good* news coming out of Canada:

http://www.vancouversun.com/health/story.html?id=4076939

I'll let everyone else decide the veracity of it.

8-0

[J Hays]

You, SaraPAC, sound more insane that the people you target with your paranoid mania! YOUR hate has consquences, as seen in the last election, CRAZY PERSON!

[aprilnovember811]

Here is the shooter's facebook page before it was removed.

http://uservideos.smashits.com/video/cPd2bJIcjTg/jared-laughlin-original-facebook-page-before-it-was-pulled-down-and-changed-.html

[CrazyJ]

SaraPAC is really Keith Ob-vermin!

[aprilnovember811]

Here is the shooter's facebook page before it was removed.
http://youtu.be/cPd2bJIcjTg

[Monica]

The leftwing media is reprehensiable in blaming the Tea Partiers, talk about group libel and slander via the media. I hope the Tea Party movement starts a boycotte of the News mediums that blamed them for the blood bath partaken of by anti-semitic progressive leftwinger.

[Canto28]

I hope this maniac is certifiably insane (as I suspect) - hate to think this stupid violence could be the effort of a sane person, whatever his ideology. I think radical ideologies (including some religious beliefs), can make one insane - as Islam made Major Hasan insane (and millions of others)- not that this excuses. One is responsible for one's stupid beliefs.

[Mac-101]

Ya ain't got it quit right, it's the National Socialist WORKERS Party!

[Mac-101]

Anyone see something about he came with another man, someone said he was a well dressed middle age man. If so could be his handler, a MKULTRA stooge? Just keep your eyes out for the other man.

[Max LOPEZ]

Is that a threat, Blanco? Are you locking and loading?

[Mike in San Diego]

That's right. Forgot the "workers".

[Tom Billesley]

Dan Gardner's previous Op-Ed Jan 2nd 2011
http://www.vancouversun.com/opinion/op-ed/Gardner+Ghosts+predictions+past/4041398/story.html

If the prediction hits, he can boast about it and reporters will cite it as proof of his wisdom. But if it misses, no one will ever hear about it again.
Heads, I win. Tails, you forget we had a bet.

His comments are about pundits called upon to predict the year ahead, but are IMHO applicable to his own comments about terrorist plots.

The Vancouver Sun is reprinting his original articles from the Ottawa Citizen: http://www.ottawacitizen.com/business/Gardner+Ghosts+predictions+past/4041398/story.html#ixzz1AZ5qtwpf

[Bobbi]

I heard that Giffords was not born Jewish, and did not convert either. I know it's on Wikipedia, but.

[Cowardly_Prez]

The sheriff's political views are pretty apparent from his rants during a serious investigation. That man is a disgrace, but shouldn't come as a surprise. I think we already know how unstable liberal minds are.

[Bannister]

What nonsense!

FIRST - Representative Gifford is NOT the first Jewish Congresswoman - ever heard of Barbara Boxer and Diane Feinstein?

SECOND - American Renaissance is NOT an "anti-semitic" group! They are a group of researchers, journalists and scientists who write on the issues of race and immigration. And many of their members and speakers are Jewish! In fact, one of their guest speakers was a prominent rabbi!

THIRD - One of Jared Loughner's favorite books was "We The Living" by Ayn Rand! Does that mean that all Ayn Rand readers (like Pamela Geller) are also homicidal maniacs?

Give me a break! Pamela Geller and the "Atlas Shrugged" website should be ashamed of themselves for bashing a good man like Jared Taylor and his organization American Renaissance before getting ALL THE FACTS!!!

[Bannister]

You're an idiot.

The killer has NOT been linked to an anti-immigration group. Further, Representative Gifford was tough on illegal immigration and was considered a very conservative Democrat. If this had been about immigration, Jared Loughner could have found much better targets than Rep Gifford.

As far as "speech has consequences" you should be aware that leftists have ALWAYS used "hate speech" against their enemies. During the anti-war protests and WTO protests there were numerous calls to violence, images of violence and many times - ACTUAL VIOLENCE when masked Anarchists smashed windows, overturned cars and lit fires. Yet - you choose to just ignore that, don't you?

Did you know that almost 100% of all presidential assassins from John Wilkes Booth to Lee Harvey Oswald were self-identified as Democrats or Leftists? Do you even care? No, of course you don't

People like you only see what they want to see.

[maldelus]

This actually appears to be a Neo-Nazi that was once in the military, got soured by his experience and tried to prove his dislike for all things American and is a devout Jew hater. I don't believe the Senator's party affiliation had anything to do with his murderous deed. Of course our Supreme Court has allowed the desecration of the United States flag owing to a form of free speech. I'm afraid he is not the only misguided individual in these United States.

Although I consider myself to be a Republican, I wish Senator Gifford's and all those injured a speedy recovery and no lasting mental problems with the aberrant happening that occurred to them. No life should be so destroyed by another's mis-deed.

[Shy Guy]

Correct, Giffords is not Jewish.

[Shy Guy]

I handy list someone commented over at Hot Air:

** Obama: “They Bring a Knife…We Bring a Gun”
** Obama to His Followers: “Get in Their Faces!”
** Obama on ACORN Mobs: “I don’t want to quell anger. I think people are right to be angry! I’m angry!”
** Obama to His Mercenary Army: “Hit Back Twice As Hard”
** Obama on the private sector: “We talk to these folks… so I know whose ass to kick.“
** Obama to voters: Republican victory would mean “hand to hand combat”
** Obama to lib supporters: “It’s time to Fight for it.”
** Obama to Latino supporters: “Punish your enemies.”
** Obama to democrats: “I’m itching for a fight.”

H/T to Gateway Pundit

[Blanco]

MaxLopez aka dumb-ass, ask SaraPac if it is a threat why don't you? I was quoting her if you would bother to read rather than make your accusations. Also ask her is she is "locking and loading?" You show your prejudice and hatred in every breath you take.

[silverdog]

The freaks are coming out of the woodwork in a mad scramble to justify their complicity in this shooting. One thing is for certain: these people aren't smart enough to know when to quit:

http://www.phpbbplanet.com/damessageboard/viewtopic.php?t=25037&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=30&sid=6c35d5d3d8c2216e0a0dc2e27537d2c4&mforum=damessageboard

heami wrote:

He was a tool,the people he shot were tools....vessels if you will, meant to deliver a message...

not many people have the wisdom and lack blindness to see thru these "tricks"

again everything you witness in the created zeitgeist serves one purpose, if it it be real or unknown speculation....again all one thing

when you look at the world, you should look at it as a magic trick, and you should be trying to figure out how it is done

the people that control you do so based on one thing....manipulation of your thought process's and ideology's.

they use your mind against you, you are your own worst enemy.The way each and every one of you thinks accumulates into what we perceive as "reality"

but it in essence is not real...it is a figment of your imagination that has been implanted into your mind.

As the quickening draws near, you will see the confused ones 1.start to come out of the woodwork 2. see the controlled media manipulate it in order to propagate "the one thing"

almost every post here is a byproduct of the manipulation....a "stance" has been taken by each of you in which you express your opinions about this event. All very much like clockwork, you form your "teams" based on you ideology.

The intent of this event, which was "set free" again was bound to happen, they know this, as it was bound to be sensationalized, this they know also because they control that aspect.

The one thing? to keep all of you thinking any of this is real, to keep you inside of the Matrix.

1. there is no government....there is a division o the central bank called "the government"...it is crafted in order to make it seem like it is in charge. This is done or several reasons.

a. as we see, when the native get angry, who do the blame, who do they lash out against?....government

as if in a movie, where a group of opposing gangsters breaks into the "other guys" stronghold and demands that "mugsy" be brought forth so he can get a taste of his own medicine, only problem is they don't know what mugsy looks like, so, out comes the fall guy, they "take mugsy out" and think they have "won", when in fact Mugsy is alive and well and plotting their destruction

b. the ideology paradigm. Again the red team/blue team mentality

this is immediately being capitalized on by their media, here on the forum we see people defending sides, thus rationalizing that they are "real"

c.most people in "government" have no idea how they are being used, just as this young man had no idea.

He was in effect the perfect "wild card"....which is "suspect". If he was genuine, he was "confused" in just the way they wanted him to be.

"GO AFTER THE GOVERNMENT AND JEWS"

He seemed like he was close to getting it right, he however made the mistake of attacking "government" in order to make a statement.

Many "good" things have come out of this for those that control us.

1.Most people who hate jews, don't even really know why they do, they just know they control the banks, media, government etc.....And many of them do, I have said before the best gangsters in the world are Jews.....So they will say "fucking jews"....and the jews...not THE JEWS...will en masse defend them

thus ensuring the "Cycle of obfuscation" and use of the jews en'masse' to be "HUMAN SHEILDS" for THE JEWS

When jews get shot, this now becomes a perfect "reinforcement" of this behavior....all the jews go, "look their shooting jews" and all those that hate them go, "ya, look, their shooting jews...yeah.

and thus with the red team/blue team thing..."look Palin had crosshairs on her"....thus doing a two'fer'one....1 suck the gun issue in 2. further Radicalize the "colored team"....the tea party, thus re-enforcing the "realness of politics"

I have a very hard time understanding how this guy could say what he has{I do not know much about that} related to the "gold money thing" and then not know that "it" is not "government....

For those who wish ill will to "government" I caution you to not fall into this trap....many do not know how they are being used....and if you do....it will be used against you....one kid throws the eraser at the chalk board...you all will put your heads down on the desk...

Remember, all of this, factual event or not has one purpose....

TO KEEP YOU INSIDE THE MATRIX AND TO HAVE FAITH THAT IT IS REAL....

everything is about money

follow the yellow brick road

have brains ,heart and courage

don't be fooled by the man behind the screen.

cut the head of the snake and the body will die.

"government" is not the head of the snake.

neither is Bernanke,Dimon,Blankfeld....or any of those.....the are the figure heads....it is those behind them that are the problem.

see thru the trick

[Dave in Dallas]

tea party is about constitutional conservatism, i.e. limited government.. when I can read some of this nut's ramblings about Jefferson, Franklin etc. and how government needs to obey its own oath to protect and defend the constitution, well I might then entertain the idea that he was a right winger.

Until then, I'll remember he is a lifetime dope smoker, he hospitalized himself with alcohol poisoning in 2006, he had a record of run-ins with local police, he has made death threats before, he imagined himself creating a new currency to replace the dollar, he had a grudge against Gabby Giffords, his classmates who have spoken out so far are saying he was a leftist, a radical liberal, and in an online ABC news story I read that a high ranking officer says of his attempt to enlist "he didn't make it past the urinalysis".

[Paula K.]

American Renaissance is mentioned as an anti-zionist or anti-jewish website, but it is a supporter of the white race. I've visited that site many times and never noticed any anti-zionism. Infact, I have read comments there supportive of Jews since they are
considered white people, esp since many are from Europe. The left is really scraping the bottom of the barrel for their lies and innuendoes. AmRen doesn't touch on religion, whether judaism or any other.
Incidentally I haven't visited AmRen in months because my anti-virus program told me it was infected.
Wonder how that happened?

[female gentile]

UPDATE: Another tie to a Jew-hating organization has been discovered: American Renaissance.
It is on the left where the Jew-hatred and demonization of Israel is found today. Jew-hatred and anti-Israel rhetoric is a major platform, a cause celebre .....
_________________________________________-
Yet your congresswoman chose to subscribe to the bizarre Youtube channel of the "Jew hater" who shot her and he states very clearly that he likes Mein Kampf, etc. why out of all of the people she could have subscribed to, did she chboose him!
See link:
http://www.youtube.com/user/giffords2

Incidentally people are saying that your Jew hating Loughner is in fact a Jew himself!
I suspect you will not moderate this comment - truth is always antisemitic!

[Mary]

Pamela,

I cannot believe you are participating in the hate-smear against Jared Taylor and Amren.

For shame.

You above anyone ought to know what it is like to be lied about----what exactly has prompted you to carry on the baseless accusation against Jared Taylor? What evidence do you have to justify such an attack?

I have long been a fan Pamela, but this is my first time being extremely disapointed in you.

Please remove the attacks on Amren, or at least correct your post.

This is WRONG.

[Bruce Godfrey]

American Renaissance is a paleo-conservative organization with no leftist support or activities whatsoever; its leadership involved people like Samuel Francis, a right-wing editor of the Washington Times. In 1998 I went to one of their meetings in Arlington as a hostile, though quiet, observer; it was held in the basement of a Greek restaurant near the Arlington courthouse. It's easy to find what the organization stands for; it is definitely not a leftist organization.

[Pamela Geller]

Taylor hangs out with Nazis and anti-Semites.

[Mike in San Diego]

She said she was the first Jewish congresswoman from Arizona.

[Mike in San Diego]

And he loved The communist manifesto. And mien kampf.

P.S. There are some good conservative pot heads. Smoking pot doesn't make you a liberal. Maybe a libertarian...

[RL]

He is a satanist. It isn't very complicated. Pure evil does exist; and our tangential forays into other possible influences only makes it stronger.

[online backup dc area]

Burning a US flag means hatred in the U.S country. Maybe they want to talk but nobody's listening.