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Major wars occur when the dominate nation is weak, since we are currently the dominate nation and Obama is trying to remove us from that position I see no way to prevent a major war that will quickly spread around the world.

pamela, friends:

all this ass kissing of islam and the arab states is spurred by the shit head euro's, and for one reason only.

oil.

and, other natural resources.

both of which, the euro shit heads lack.

you gotta give the pricks credit. they have no oil, so they kiss up to the arabs. who are close. and, they have no coal. so, they do everything in their power to pass this global climate control bullshit holding down carbon emissions, to limit the use of coal by the indians and chinese, who have a lot.

finally, the last thing they have not, which they used to, is military power. they've squandered it all. the u.s., for instance, has 11, 12, 13 air craft carrier task forces while the rest of the world has none, a situation the chinese and the indians are going to try to rectify.

the euro's? well, the english and the french have decided to build one, and share it. they are going to share it operationally, get that. now, do you know how long it takes to plan such a thing, lay the keel, build it, fit it out and make it operational? well, the last (and first) one the ruskies built took them 25 years to complete the process.

and, it is worthless.

so, the euro solution is to diplomatically hamstring the u.s., and to negate its military power by blunting it diplomatically through the united nations.

sound familiar.

if you look behind this arab crap, what you will find is the hand of the french and the germans, but mostly those scheming bastards, the french.

so, time to take the internet back.

dust off the united nations, by which i mean to withdraw from it, and to kick it off our shores.

john jay
milton freewater, oregon usa

p.s. i save the best/funniest part for last. and, that is the part where we are kissing arab/muslim/islamic ass over this oil reserves thing.

and, that is the bakken oil field in montana, north dakota and on up into canada. there is more sweet crude oil in these reserves, now recoverable, than in all of saudi arabia, or, for that matter, in all of arabia, ... , in multiples.

in short, we don't need the fucking arabs, for anything. no reason to kiss their fish dead skinny butts.

but, the liberals and the media won't tell you this. will they.

it goes against the "master plan" to integrate in with the arabs.

in short, it's time to kick arab ass, and it is time to kick the liberals out of power and influence them, by whatever means necessary, before they completely give away the geo political power the u.s. and the west have won. (through, let it be known, absolutely no contribution by the idiot froggies, and against the best efforts of hitler's nazi germany to wrest this power from the u.s. and england.)

it is simply time to turn away from these bastards, and fend for ourselves, which we can do quite handily, and much to our lasting benefit.

first, we have to get rid of the radical liberals, who want to kumbaya us with the rest of these worthless turds. simply put.

It's all laying the ground work for a TOTALATARIAN NEW WORLD ORDER that makes 1984 look tame!

You are spot on Mac-101. There is no doubt that the New World Order is not too far away, spurred on and backed to the hilt by obama, the champion of all muslims.
Obama's motives are very clear and he is acting very fast because according to the Word of God, we are running out of time.

Why would the Brazilian government be interested in this "specifically in reaction to challenges such as WikiLeaks"?

Did WikiLeaks expose the Brazilian government? No
Do Brazilians care about the US government being exposed? Probably not - if anything, surely they would love to see the "imperialists" suffering a little humiliation.
Is Wikileaks the problem? No - if it didn't exist, surely someone else would be found willing to publish these documents - or perhaps one of the "rogue states"...

So, imo seems like the reason for this is not Wikileaks. Which begs the question - why did the Brazilian government take the lead, and what is the real reason for this? Is it something too "controversial" to be discussed? If that's the case, then the likes of WikiLeaks could provide a convenient smokescreen. Never let a crisis go to waste eh?

111TH CONGRESS
2D SESSION H. RES. 1775
Expressing the sense of the House of Representatives that the United Nations
and other international governmental organizations shall not be allowed
to exercise control over the Internet.
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
DECEMBER 17, 2010
Mrs. BONO MACK submitted the following resolution; which was referred to
the Committee on Foreign Affairs
RESOLUTION
Expressing the sense of the House of Representatives that
the United Nations and other international governmental
organizations shall not be allowed to exercise control
over the Internet.
Whereas market-based policies and private sector leadership
have allowed the Internet the flexibility to evolve;
Whereas given the importance of the Internet to the global
economy, it is essential that the underlying technical infrastructure
of the Internet remain stable and secure;
Whereas the developing world deserves the access to knowledge,
services, commerce, and communication, the accompanying
benefits to economic development, education,
health care, and the informed discussion that is the bed-
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HRES 1775 IH
rock of democratic self-government that the Internet provides;
Whereas the explosive and hugely beneficial growth of the
Internet did not result from increased government involvement
but from the opening of the Internet to commerce
and private sector innovation;
Whereas some nations that advocate radical change in the
structure of Internet governance censor the information
available to their citizens through the Internet and use
the Internet as a tool of surveillance to curtail legitimate
political discussion and dissent, and other nations operate
telecommunications systems as state-controlled monopolies
or highly-regulated and highly-taxed entities;
Whereas some nations in support of transferring Internet
governance to an entity affiliated with the United Nations,
or another international governmental entity, might
seek to have such an entity endorse national policies that
block access to information, stifle political dissent, and
maintain outmoded communications structures; and
Whereas the structure and control of Internet governance has
profound implications for homeland security, competition
and trade, democratization, free expression, access to information,
privacy, and the protection of intellectual
property, and the threat of some nations to take unilateral
actions that would fracture the root zone file would
result in a less functional Internet with diminished benefits
for all people: Now, therefore be it
1 Resolved, That the House of Representatives—
2 (1) calls on the President to continue to oppose
3 any effort to transfer control of the Internet to the
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HRES 1775 IH
1 United Nations or any other international govern2
mental entity; and
3 (2) calls on the President to—
4 (A) recognize the need for, and pursue a
5 continuing and constructive dialogue with the
6 international community on, the future of Inter7
net governance; and
8 (B) advance the values of a free Internet
9 in the broader trade and diplomatic conversa10
tions of the United States.
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John Jay, Y.O.U. for President. When are WE going to stop pretending we have a real president in OUR white house, not his!!!!

The UN better step up the pace if they want to beat our own government to the punch.... looks like liberals are worried that their lies and deceit have become household conversation and want to delete conservative radio and anything else that is a threat to their radical agenda.

re the Brazilian government leading this move "specifically in reaction to challenges such as WikiLeaks", here is outgoing Brazilian president Lula showing "solidarity" with Wikileaks...

So much for it being the reason for this legislation.

These big coalitions are not good for sovereign states - we have false democracies because of the Islamic and other totalitarian ideologies entering our borders, they are political and winning their agenda by legitimate and illegitimate means whilst the indigenous peoples sleep. Truth is becoming a fairy tale and lies are the new truth.

The last I heard the US has enough proven reserves to fuel the US for 500 years at our highest rate of consumption, if the watermelons of the green movement would let us drill and refine our own oil gas would be below $1.50 per gallon and the money that is now going overseas would be staying in the US and being spent and invested in the US so our economy would be humming. Instead the greens are now denying us the use of our own oil and damaging the economy, and by doing this they are damaging the ecology since it is only rich nations that can afford to stop the pollution the greens are suppose to hate so much.

Its laying the ground for a war that will make WWII look small.

The UN was created by people who wanted it to be an organization of Democracies that would work for the betterment of mankind, in other words the liberals pushed it as a way to spread liberalism. At the time it was started there were something like 87 nations and well over half were democracies, then there are over 150 (I think) and most of them are dictatorships. Being liberal means never having to face reality when your plans blow up in your face.

richard 2:

i think you have about all of that pretty much right, though i don't know the exact figures. the bakken reserves have been known for a long time, it was just that the way to extract it from the oil bearing rock was not quite figured out.

apparently the technical problems have been solved, in that regard. my older brother, who has worked in construction all of his life, is now 68 years old and can barely lift his arms above his shoulders, due to the wear and tear of his labors over the years.

he has friends who are working the oil fields, just begging him to come to work, and he is trying to talk me into going there with him, ... , which is, ... , for someone who once worked the bering sea crab grounds, ... , tempting. (nobody ever said that anyone in my family had any sense at all, except for my younger brother. and, he's not had as much fun.)

and, on this energy thing, we are not even factoring in our proven and established coal reserves, nor figuring the tar/sands/shale reserves in the coastal areas of the gulf states.

the greens/liberals face a life or death situation w/ this oil reserve business.

what do i mean about that?

well, their only real call to existence, their raison d'etre, as it were, is to be the arbitrators of a politics of scarcity and eco-environmentalism. that really is the g_d damned elitists son of a bitches only reason to exist, and their only really reason to assert a "right to rule" over the rest of us greedy avaricious bastards.

we cannot be trusted with using our own precious resources, so the argument goes from the pricks.

no, if you recognize that we have almost unlimited natural resources for power, even using it in our own profligate little ways (always the way initially with new power, until its subtle uses are mastered), ... , then there is exactly no reason whatsoever for the greens to exist.

who needs the "parsimonious & unctuous" pricks lecturing us on resource use, when we have the resources to last a very, very, very long time.

so, that is why:

1.)they deny the existence of the resource, or try to repress knowledge of it from the public, and
2.)they announce the existence of an "aesthetic," which by the way, only they can assert with clarity, and only they can provide the "expertise" to regulate, which is to govern our conduct, use, exploitation and development of such resources.

in short, according to the short dicked bastards, they are the only ones smart enough to understand these things, and only they can tell the rest of us how to use such things.

yes, it is very much like the medieval catholic priesthood's domination of one's access to g_d, is it not?

and, so we slowly devolve into a system whereby wealth is suppressed, so that others may rule. pretty neat system, if you are one of the elite "experts." you think there is a metaphor here, to understand the global warming juggernaut of phony science and liberal politics? laughing.

this energy business.--

it is all politics, and nothing more.

and, this is why the energy companies who are going full steam ahead to exploit bakken and other energy resources, are the deadly enemy of the greens. and, the greens know this.

because if no one else, exxon and the rest will put the green movement into the political graveyard it so richly deserves. they will kill the greens. and, htis is why, the greens struggle to kill them first.

john jay
milton freewater, oregon usa

p.s. simple as that. and, you read it first, right here at atlas shrugs. the best blog in the known universe.

It sounds from the post that we have about a 10 year window before they could actually do things such as shut down Atlas, JW, etc. Will a regime change in the 2012 election be able to do anything to reverse this latest skid in the direction of world Arab tyranny? Likewise, any chance of making some meaningful headway with loosening the grip of the treehuggers and taking steps towards gaining energy independence from the ragheads?

Or is this parade just going to keep shuffling along in the same sad direction?

I saw where the fight against the Ground Zero Arab Moo-slum Triumphant Supremacy Rabat/Mosque made the Top Ten stories list of at least one network. I was not suprised that the story was pepper with clips of weeping baghead teenagers pleading to tell us how gooooooooooooood Islam is, and comments from talking heads to the effect that SIOA's actions were "un-American". But we DID make the list, which at least must have made a few nasty little people very unhappy. CONGRATS AGAIN PAM, ROBERT, AND SIOA! They ain't seen nuthin' yet, wait'll next September.

Western political "leaders" are willingly surrendering our sovereignty and freedom and our very way of life to barbaric regimes.

p.s. in short, what the euro greens (and the chief aristocratic exponent of same, that dickless & feckless wonder prince charles) really want is to see most of us reduced to the level of peasants, while the elites live large, and, of course, control things.

but, this is hard to sell, when the "peasantry" has such an inordinate fondness for 3/4 ton pickups, motorcycles, snowmobiles, personal water craft, ultra light aircraft and anything else that can be powered and given motive force by the reciprocating piston engine. and, who is to deny the peasantry its little entertainments, with almost limitless oil reserves in north america, and coal reserves of vast size in north america, and emerging technologies such as energy production by the exploitation of moss, lichens, algae and other microorganisms, let alone ocean wave technology.

who is going to convince the peasants to give up their motors.

and, who is going to deny the peasants the thermostats set on 74-degrees f. in the winter, and 68-degrees f. in the summer, and running around indoors in the middle of winter in their bikini's and trunks, with limitless gas supplies?

this is why the greens/liberals/radicals, home grown and euro spawned, hate the united states. and, even worse, why they are envious.

the euro's simply don't have these things, by which to lever power, diplomatically, militarily and/or geopolitically.

if they are to stay relevant, they have to figure a way to gull gulliver within his own borders, and fetter him with aesthetics and green measures on energy use and industrial production.

this is the raison d'etre of the u.n., and the unholy diplomatic cabal of the euro's and the arabs/muslims/islam/o.i.c. trying to limit us, to tie us down and restrain our bumptious growth and ever expanding industrial and technological production.

simple as that.

john jay

p.s. oh, yes, it all ties in, and it is all a cohert world view. scary, ain't it?

well, it is if you are a greenie. it is fucking terrifying, if you are a radical/leftist/greenie, and there are peasants running around, "what got your number."

That is Obama's agenda.

That is Obama's agenda. He is a traitor.

Only a bona-fides POTUS can be Impeached. Obama must be ARRESTED and tried as a common criminal:
http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/08/17/there-is-no-president-obama/

aah--you americans...!blame everything on europe,huh? we didn`t put obama on the most poweful position in the world, you americans did!! and it´s you americans who have given religion the same powerful position as free speech. free speech and religion are incompatible:religion demands unquestioning dedication;free speech demands questioning,criticizim,analysis etc. you americans need to get your democracy in order, we europeans need to get our democracy in order, and it looks like both you americans and we europeans are starting to wake up; i just hope everybody wakes up in time...

Wow, coincidently right after the stealth Jihadist Barack Hussein Obama is trying to take over the internet through the FCC. Nothing to see here folks. He's a Christian and was born in Hawaii. I know because he said so.

Robert Laity said in reply to groucho...
Only a bona-fides POTUS can be Impeached. Obama must be ARRESTED and tried as a common criminal:
http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/08/17/there-is-no-president-obama/

We warned them. We told them he wasn't born in America. They have seen him lie, over and over again. What is their reaction? To ignore it, to sign Nuclear Arms Treaty's he negotiated, to call people birthers and kooks, to put honorable soldiers and doctors in prison? The tombstone mentality is alive and well in the Congress, Supreme Court, old media etc. How many more victims is it going to take before this man is investigated and arrested?

Hey Hussein, where's your long form birth certificate. Your commie friend in Hawaii said he was going to put it to rest by releasing information. That would be Neil Abercombie, your new governor elect(what fools live in Hawaii?) We will need to have it checked by independent forensic experts. I hope you're not insulted by that. We just can't trust anything from you. You are a stealth Taqiya practicing Muslim.

whatdemocracy said...I have to agree with you on this. I've been disgusted by what the stupid "drones," did in this country. They all thought they were being so morally superior and tried to have a feel good moment for themselves by electing the "first African American president." He isn't even American. He's Kenyan born and an Indonesian who is out to destroy the very people who voted for him. I can't even look or talk to people that are that stupid.

Democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts and murders itself. There was never a democracy that did not commit suicide.
John Adams, Letter, April 15, 1814

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