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Sunday, September 26, 2010

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The Imam portrayed himself as a man of peace and a man of reconciliation. Pamela Geller portrayed herself as a liar and offers nothing but hate-filled hyperbole. The mosque is already there. Build the Islamic community center and stick it, Pamela.

Pam:

You are absolutely correct; why the media is running scared and refuses to actually report the facts is dishonest and reprehensible. The media ignores what is happening in Europe--the 750+ 'no-go' zones in France that strongly discourage non-Muslims from entering or passing through; and where sharia law trumps French Law.

I personally believe that the media and governments are AFRAID of Islam--remember, they do have hit lists and are not afraid to murder without repercussions.

It wouldn't surprise me if you are at great risk by speaking out; the last thing they want is truth.

Pam, you are a true patriot and America is in your corner--continue to be brave and speak out.

To others, do the same; let our resolve be absolute and our voices deafening--we cannot be complacent. Look a Europe.

Pamela Geller made valid points regarding the masque. Although it is legal to build a mosque and worship, it is extremely insensitive to build that close to ground zero. It is offensive to demand legal rights at the expense of a wounded populace. Americans are always expected to be sensitive to the needs and feelings of every minority, yet no other entity need ever show compassion towards us. I believe in all of the freedoms this country offers to everyone who chooses to live here. I just wish things were a little more reciprocal between us and those who live here yet never try to embody those American characteristics that we hold dear like empathy, compassion and good will.

The liberal media is driving me crazy. Why is Fox News the only media outlet with some balls? I just want to scream.

JTW, I have a question for you. What is the Sharia law? How is it compatible with the Constitution?

I await your answer.

The liberal media are a dying breed. They wonder why they are losing subscriptions and readership/viewership when they fully investigate Republicans and Conservatives while giving people like Obama a free pass. If the MSM had fully vetted Obama, he wouldn't be sitting in office right now.

Wishing will NOT make it so.

All you need to do is look at the behavior--in France, the UK, the Netherlands and most of Europe.

Unless you take a stand--I promise you that Islam will run you right over and take your rights without apology.

Time to be realists and not just 'wish' and 'hope', because the facts strongly suggest that there is NO compromise for Islam whatsoever.

Don't be naive--Islam is betting on you to be.

Pamela:
If you didn't advertise that there was ANYTHING on CBS, I'm not sure how many would have known that CBS even had ANYTHING regarding the mosque. NO ONE I know watches CBS, NBC or ABC. We are all tuned in where we WANT to be tuned in at. It's pull NEWS and not PUSH news anymore. There is CNN and FOX but really those are secondary. How many viewers were there anyway? It would be interesting to find out.

Pamela, thank you for standing up for America, taking a stand against Sharia Law (including
its mouthpiece,Rauf,a lying, shameless PIG in sheeps clothing)and for your unmatched commitment and loyalty to Israel and her people.
I and millions of Americans Stand With You.

That was disgraceful by CBS and Scott Pelley but it's what I've come to expect from them. It's why I stopped watching '60 Minutes' years ago. Too much 'cocktail party' journalism by lazy journalists like Pelley, NY Times, et al. and not enough thorough investigative journalism by people like Ms. Geller. So whom did 60 Minutes interview for their forumlaic celebrity interview for their third segement?

FYI, I just wrote about this. 60 Minutes falsely said that Geller coined "Mosque at Ground Zero"/"Ground Zero Mosque" in December 2009, then showed her Human Events article from September 2010 without the date. It's the least that's wrong with the story, but it's the thing that should bring a correction.

http://www.redstate.com/barrypopik/2010/09/26/origin-of-the-term-ground-zero-mosque-or-listen-up-60-minutes/

SUMMARY
60 Minutes clearly must issue a correction. Pamela Geller was not the first blog to use “Mosque at Ground Zero,” and the article shown was clearly and knowingly not even her 2009 article.

There’s a lot more wrong with the story, such as questions not asked and people not asked, but you don’t get a correction for stuff like that.

Pamela, you scored big in my opinion, despite the pro-islam , pro-GZM piece 60 minutes aired tonight. It contained many newsworthy omissions of fact and only provided an inept and superficial interview of the NY native real-estate developer "hey look at the gym" guy and Mr. ambassador of peace "better do what we want" imam. Nonetheless, you where able to counter their view points truthfully and wisely in the short time they allowed you and after much editing I’m sure.
Even some of the people sitting next to me watching the piece who are unaware of true islam and the real significance of this mosque where appalled at this unabashed CBS propaganda stunt, passing by as journalism.
We love you Pamela, and who are we? 70% of the American people, Keep up the outstanding work.

And if the Pentagon was (somehow) totally destroyed on 9/11, it would be a sign of reconciliation if it was rebuilt in the shape of a crescent.

An honest Muslim with good intentions simply would not propose the building of a Grand Mosque on, or anywhere near, GZ.

And, no, El-Gamal, 9/11 cannot be pinned on you, personally, but it can and should be pinned on your faith.

JTW, could you at least provide some examples of this hate filled hyperbole and lies..?

I won't watch CBS even for you Pamela but I knew you would be okay since they stacked the deck with only three against one. They must really be afraid of you. It's laughable.

Yes!!

Good job, barrypopik!

This has been a provocation from the beginning. Like the "Flying Imams", like pattern is to provoke a response, hide behind the religion, advance their position while keeping an eye out for any small advantage, or concessions along the way.

After all isn't that what he says here?
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2010/08/rauf_sharia_puppet.html

Remember, his Cordoba Intitiative's mission statement is to transform the country in ten years.

Scott Pelley was really fair in this interview. The only thing he didn't do was give Imam Wooof Woooof a B**w job. Prayer room in the Pentagon????? What happened to separation of church & state?????

Thanks for walking point on this one, Pamela. It means a lot.

JTW , Let's put this in terms you understand: Phu@K You,TROLL!

The Imam PORTRAYED TAQYIA!

And Pamela is NO LIAR and YOU DAMNED WELL KNOW IT!
Also , Pamela is NOT PORTRAYING/ACTING.
Pamela is an HONEST ,SINCERE,and INTELLIGENT woman and mother FIGHTING for GOOD AGAINST EVIL and every mother's child's FUTURE.
Now GTFOH!

El-Gamal's New York "Kid" Taqyia was breathtaking. I was waiting for him to start talking about his favorite childhood memories at Yankee Stadium.

It's freedom OF religion...not freedom FROM religion. As it is, the so-called prayer room is a nondescript conference room that is what its occupants deem it to be at the time.

Few viewers will not see through this.

Americans know what is going on here.

This posture that we need mosques at GZ to save us from Terror and save our soldiers is so off side, only retards would buy it.

I suppose Nidal Hasan killed 13 because there was no mosque for him to go to or no mosque @ GZ.

What 60Mn did was advertise for Atlas. Many Americans will google it and read up on the story.

Pamela

Make sure you post Mosque stories the next few days because many will be hitting the site.

"You need us"


"We can do it"

Do what Rauf?

reconcile the USA with Sharia? Like some income statement?

This is the same game they played on the British.

"You need us"...."we are the ones we ve been waiting for" (sorry couldn't resist)

Then the British found out they were working together with genocidal Jihadis on "social cohesion" committees.

This is becoming a joke. The show preached to the choir but at the same time opened minds and exposed the story.

"Picked by the Bush State Dept"

How ignorant. State was playing against Bush all along. Wilson and his wife come to mind.

Wasn't it the FBI who picked Awlaki?

I just sent CBS a message telling them what I thought of their shoddy coverage. I can think of 2 dozen questions that Scott didn't even think to ask. What a useless reporter he is! Pamela, you are absolutely brilliant and so very brave to take on this fight with the devil. These liars have to be stopped. God bless you and Robert and all those who speak the truth.

The steps in front of the Supreme Court are non-descript steps also BUT no prayers are allowed.
The Pledge of Allegiance can't be said in a federal building??? USA can't be shouted at a ball game?? This bullshit is going to be the downfall of this country. It's perfectly OK for muslims to be offended but not for US???

Even though CBS tried to make Pamela look like a crazy, it didn't work. She was so bold and strong when she told the reporter "You're never gonna shut me up". It totally wiped out the cattiness of the reporter. Excellent job Pamela, please keep it up.

Pamela, you did a good job as usual, standing up to the riff-raff with poise and intelligence. The imam came off as a deceptive schemer.

And if all they wanted to do is pray there on the first floor, nobody would care. The 911 Victory Monument is quite another thing and as usual, CBS did a disservice to reporting. They're part of the mainstream media. What do you expect?

Great piece by CBS. It set the record straight once and for all. The community center will be a great asset to the neighborhood.

Elzanaty defrauded New York Medicaid, NOT Medicare. If you google Elzanaty's campaign contributions, you may wonder why a Long Island doctor donated to Cynthia McKinney, the far-leftist from Georgia.

Rauf is embraced by the anti-war Left: Jim Wallis, Rev. Morton, the Chautauqua Institute.
The executor of the Pomerantz estate that sold 45 Park Place to El-Gamal is affiliated with Chautauqua.
Even Peace4Perdana is aligned with the western far left.

My theory is that the GZM was a deliberate provocation - to deny the patriotic and nationalistic sentiment of 9/11/2001. This is consistent with the far left post-modern, transnational ideology.

You did well, Pamela.

The slime from the media tried to do another hit job and failed. Good on ya!

Rauf looks tired, like people do before they get sick or something. He needs a nap.

Anyone who believes in the koran is an imbecile and a psycho. "JTW" believes that the earth sets into a mud puddle at the end of each day and that the earth is flat. He also believes in cutting the clitoris off of little girls and having sex with little girls and boys and animals (as long as the animals are disposed of "properly" after the act. A rational human being CANNOT read the koran and accept it as truth. Like I say "JTW" is an imbecile and a psycho and should be treated as such.

Pameleh AWESOME. I REALLY liked the way that you just DID NOT EVEN BLINK your eyes. WOW. INTENSE. I LIKE IT. Also, here's the first story presented on this show where they're in afghanistan and they're talking about an enemy that "just won't back down" and "they're coming in wave after wave" and it was making me REALLY pissed off. I mean, it's like they're complimenting the enemy. Fuck CBS. I hate them as much as I hate geraldo (and that's a lot). So then they go to this mosk bullshit and just COMPLETELY ignore the FACTS about islame. That was awesome when Pamela said in response to the "do you see evil in the eyes of the media" and without blinking or hesitation just looked at that scumbag right in the eyes and said YES, basically accusing him calling him out right there. Then of course the "you're never gonna shut me up" was also AWESOME. And you know what assholes? You're NOT EVER gonna shut up the AMERICAN PEOPLE either. We're on to you. We're on to islame. So fuck you. WE WILL PREVAIL. YOU CANNOT AND YOU WILL NOT STOP US.

Anyone who believes in the koran is an imbecile and a psycho. Anyone who aids and abets the slimes is an ignorant imbecile and a self destructive psycho. Anyone who is not a slime and STILL has not educated themselves about islame is a little pussy.

Pamela, you need to know that I started reading your blog back in 2004. It was you that educated me in Islam, then I started reading JihadWatch Robert Spencer's guide to Islam that was featured at HotAir. My whole world opened up through the books written by Robert Spencer, Mark Stein, David Horowitz, Daniel Pipes and your most recent book that I read at night with my 12 year old son The Post-American Presidency, I could go on. He has developed a truth in his heart about the importance of Jewish history (we are Catholic) freedom of speech in the age of Jihad, our American sovereignty and international law ( which led to John Bolton's book Surrender Is Not an Option ), the importance of honoring veterans and the elitism taking over our country. My father served 35yrs in the military, my regret is I didn't take more time to really 'hear' what he was saying about communism, nazism and OUR country. I go to atlasshrugs everyday because I KNOW you tell the truth, you have always backed up your news story with a link thats been factual. Ms. Gellar your passion IS telling the truth for that is your legacy and that truth is carried in my son. God Bless you, I can not thank you enough! I have written my complaint to CBS, my father called them the Communist Broadcast System. Please write another book, soon.

Amir Taheri has an interesting article in which he says that the structure proposed at Ground Zero is more in line with a Rabat than a Mosque. It's part of Ground Zero since the building had been damaged on 9/11/2001 and vacated as a result. So perhaps we should label it as it truly is - the Ground Zero Victory Rabat.

In the article Amir writes: "In fact, the proposed structure is known in Islamic history as a rabat -- literally a connector. The first rabat appeared at the time of the Prophet."

"The Prophet imposed his rule on parts of Arabia through a series of ghazvas, or razzias (the origin of the English word "raid"). The ghazva was designed to terrorize the infidels, convince them that their civilization was doomed and force them to submit to Islamic rule. Those who participated in the ghazva were known as the ghazis, or raiders."

"After each ghazva, the Prophet ordered the creation of a rabat -- or a point of contact at the heart of the infidel territory raided. The rabat consisted of an area for prayer, a section for the raiders to eat and rest and facilities to train and prepare for future razzias. Later Muslim rulers used the tactic of ghazva to conquer territory in the Persian and Byzantine empires. After each raid, they built a rabat to prepare for the next razzia."

"It is no coincidence that Islamists routinely use the term ghazva to describe the 9/11 attacks against New York and Washington. The terrorists who carried out the attack are referred to as ghazis or shahids (martyrs)."

"Thus, building a rabat close to Ground Zero would be in accordance with a tradition started by the Prophet. To all those who believe and hope that the 9/11 ghazva would lead to the destruction of the American "Great Satan," this would be of great symbolic value."

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/islam_center_eerie_echo_of_ancient_iRTMW6TprkULnaA1Nqi9xM#ixzz10iNLKM3H

In your own words "we are a multicultural society, a pluralistic society ... and we do that by getting along"

And in the same breath you want to deny American Muslims what Jews and Christians have.

You just don't make any sense.

The only good part about the 60 minutes piece was that I heard Pamela Geller and found her blog/website. Thank you CBS for allowing me to join Ms Geller's cause! I didn't know about her until your "I love Galam puff piece" last night. Oh, I think you at CBS called it Ground Zero mosque.

Pam, Thank you for the link to write CBS as I sent them a big ole thank you note also.

All Islam, all the time...makes me wanna puke! It's gonna be a never ending series of beer hall putsch&shoveling matches.

R

I attempted to watch the 60 Minute piece, knowing Pamela has the truth behind her and she can take care of the facts, thank you...however, the spin and distortion from CBS got so bad, I could not finish watching. CBS and the MSM continue to push crap because they can rightly expect ignorance from the American people. Are they feeding the crocodile, hoping it will eat them last? (thanks to Mr. Churchill)
You go, Pam.

Very well said. I'm not even American and I visit Pamela's site every day to learn about the dangers of Islam and their modus operandi. Thank heavens they don't broadcast CBS here, where I am in South Africa, cause then it would just be another lamestream media channel that I'd have to avoid. It's an outrage.

You know what they say when someone points a finger? There's three pointing right back at the person making the accusation. Truth is not just about presenting accurate facts, but ALL THE FACTS. That's something this 60 min idiot still needs to learn.

It is shameless how he portrayed Pamela Geller, fierce and offensive and opposing Rauf's friendliness and approachability, without providing any reason for Pamela Geller's reaction. It's just a witch hunt. All I can say is it's a good think that these people have gone on record with their witch hunts because they need to face some kind of justice one day, when our children learn that they have been paying for our mistakes.

GTHUGDMFSOBFOAD

P.S. I just sent in my complaint to CBS too.

On her way to work one morning

Down the path along side the lake

A tender hearted woman saw a poor half frozen snake(islam)

His pretty colored skin had been all frosted with the dew
"Oh well," she cried, "I'll take you in and I'll take care of you"

"Take me in oh tender woman

Take me in, for heaven's sake

Take me in oh tender woman," sighed the snake(islam)

She wrapped him up all cozy in a curvature of silk

And then laid him by the fireside with some honey and some milk

Now she hurried home from work that night as soon as she arrived

She found that pretty snake she'd taking in had been revived

"Take me in, oh tender woman

Take me in, for heaven's sake

Take me in oh tender woman," sighed the snake(islam)

Now she clutched him to her bosom, "You're so beautiful," she cried."You are PEACE and LOVE"

"But if I hadn't brought you in by now you might have died"
Now she stroked his pretty skin and then she kissed and held him tight

But instead of saying thanks, that snake gave her a vicious bite

"Take me in, oh tender woman

Take me in, for heaven's sake

Take me in oh tender woman," sighed the snake(islam)

"I saved you," cried that woman

"And you've bit me even, why?

You know your bite is poisonous and now I'm going to die"

"Oh shut up, silly woman," said the reptile with a grin

"You knew damn well I was a snake before you took me in

"Take me in, oh tender woman

Take me in, for heaven's sake

Take me in oh tender woman," sighed the snake(islam)

Christians are silent....for now....but there's a bad moon rising.

Anonymous, you assumed that I just visited Atlas Shrugs. Atlas Shrugs is the best site. But if you have other sites that you can recommend then please share them.

The journalistic dishonesty and outright lying is going to come back to haunt "SEE BS" someday

If JTW is claiming that Imam Rauf is a "man of peace" then JTW would understand what Sharia law is and why Imam Rauf is pushing it in America.

Do you know what Sharia Law is? If so, do you know whether or not its compatible with the Constitution? If you don't know the answer to this, how can you judge whether or not Imam Rauf is really a "man of peace".

70% of Americans are hardly a Minority. Wishing it were not so won't make it go away Anon.

"anonymous" (I guess that's your name): That's not strictly true. If you walk across America and ask people of either gender, of any faith, of any race and of almost any age, how they feel about a Ground Zero Victory Mosque, most of them will suggest to you that it's not a great idea. As I mentioned, nobody cares that there is a prayer room -- anywhere and that would include the Pentagon, as CBS Sixty Minutes reported. Nobody would care that there are over 90 other mosques in Manhattan. So it's not about being Christian or not Christian. Islamic fundamentalists want to build a monument to the attack that they can look at and be proud of. That's why the location is important to them. And that's why there should be no mosque at Ground Zero.

Yep, that Sharia law will be an awesome asset to the Constitution won't it? (sic)

"anonymous" (I guess that's your name): That's not strictly true. If you walk across America and ask people of either gender, of any faith, of any race and of almost any age, how they feel about a Ground Zero Victory Mosque, most of them will suggest to you that it's not a great idea. As I mentioned, nobody cares that there is a prayer room -- anywhere and that would include the Pentagon, as CBS Sixty Minutes reported. Nobody would care that there are over 90 other mosques in Manhattan. So it's not about being Christian or not Christian or one religion over another. Islamic fundamentalists want to build a monument to the attack that they can look at and be proud of. That's why the location is important to them. And that's why there should be no mosque at Ground Zero.

If you give those Americans a little history lesson about Islam and frame the construction project in context, the numbers in opposition (including Muslims) will be a lot higher than 70%. In the long term that building will serve to divide people, not bring them together.

Try reading the Quran. It might shock you. The truth is there if you want to find it.

Islam is neither Multicultural nor Pluralistic. In fact its the most INTOLERANT cult on the planet. How one calls it a religion is beyond me. It does nothing to contribute anything positive to any society anywhere in the whole world. Name one Islamic country that is making positive contributions to society through arts, research and science in the modern world. I can tell you, you won't find one.

Christians don't push Sharia Law down our throats. Try reading up on Sharia sometime and you might be surprised to find that contrary to what the good Imam Rauf says, Sharia and US Constitution are INCOMPATIBLE.

Dhimmi media will be the first to go once the Islamic Jihadists have their way.

If the MSM did investigative Journalism, Obama wouldn't be President right now.

Do you understand the Quran? Have you read the Quran? Do you understand Sharia Law? Do you know the differences between Sharia Law and the US Constitution? Why would Imam Rauf seek to install Sharia Law in a land where those very laws are diametrically opposed to the Constitution and the principle of Human Rights?

Why has no OIC member nation in the UN ever signed the UN Declaration of Human Rights? I'll give you a hint, read the Quran!

"you are a threat to the stability of New York City"

LOL, oh really? I think the bigger threat are people like Imam Rauf and his jihadi cohorts. Why don't you use those investigative skills to check into Imam Rauf, or does he have you under his payroll already?

Identify yourself, you little coward.

Funny you should mention EDL, because they were there at the 9/11 rally and did you notice any heads being "cracked" by them, or did you just take a flyer on the whole thing, you little coward?

Pam is "a threat to the stability of NYC"? Which of course means a Sharia-pushing rabat sponsored by Moo-slum Brotherhood con men and thugs benefits such "stability"? Sort of like the morality police do in Riyadh and Tehran? That your vision for the future of New York, you little coward?

Tell us who you are, little coward.

You are my hero, Pamela. They are taking over and we have to stop them. Where I live it's hard to find a convenience store that isn't run by Muslims. What I want to know is if their Sharai law is so opposed to gambling then how come they sell all these lottery tickets? And I swear they are rigging the outcomes, too. I used to hit on a scratch-off at least once a week. Now I'm lucky if it's once a month.

You have to watch out for even the little things.

Would it interest you to know that this so called "man of peace" is a slum lord? Can you imagine being one of this guys tenants? How would you react if while living in depraved conditions, which you repeatedly tried to have repaired, you come to find out that this Imam is lauded by the President of the USA as some brother of peace, taking tours on your dime?
This Imam can't seem to keep his housing projects in full running livable conditions, but he is able to see himself clear to take our tax dollars and run around Dar al Islam and preach about fellowship between the USA and the whole darn Muslim world? Do you see something wrong with that picture?
Well let me tell you, if you don't, all I can say is, pity you. Pity you for having a brain but not using it, for not using common sense and good judgement.

Pamela Geller, in case you are not aware, spends hours of her time and money on issues so close to the heart of woman and our national freedoms, it is shocking to me that anyone can call her out using nasty comments at all. I am sure she isn't perfect, but let me just say, I don't know of too many people who feel the need so strongly to keep our nation free that they put everything on the line, death threats included, so they can be a voice in the darkness. So they can shed light upon something that without her, none of us would even know was about to be built. So while you take a 60 mins. chop job and decide who is more honest, read, use your common sense, trust your sense of right and wrong, good vs. evil, and put yourself in the shoes of those people who are frustrated, mistreated, living in squalor in the housing projects of Imam Rauf. The answer after that is simple, he's a fake, he's sketchy Islamic snake. He is no friend of the USA, and I don't mean the fools in the White House either, they don't represent the USA in my opinion, I mean the regular, run of the mill, American.

and those passages are abrogated where and how many dozens of times?

and just how many dozens of times has your truth been abrogated and which books are those passages in?

he didn't show the separation of men and grossly inferior women in a whole other area, either.

I had no idea that 60 Minutes (of our lives we will never get back) was still on air. It must have an audience of what....12? It was obviously as heavy handed, pro mosque piece which any thinking person could see. I would contact CBS, but they are never going to change their agenda....until they are told to...and not by the "little people". This should not dissuade those of you who are so inclined, however. One never knows.

Keep the heat up, Pamela! And thanks for doing so on behalf of a grateful nation (or at least its sane citizens.

edit...it was obviously *a* heavy handed...

It's not just where you live, CGallagher.

edited to add (gee, a lot of editing today!) I don't play Lotto, so I cannot concur with your observation. What I am agreeing with is " it's hard to find a convenience store that isn't run by Muslims."

Evan,

You are not the only long-term, devout evangelical Christian who reads this site.

WWJD? Jesus rebuked unclean spirits and set free those who were tormented by those demons. Islam is an unclean spirit and it torments millions of people.

Pamela doesn't even profess Christianity but she is of the same Tribe as our Lord and Savior and she is REBUKING the unclean spirit of Islam.

If you will just read God's Only Holy Word you will recognize Mohammed for a false prophet and you will recognize Mohammed's "religion" as being a false religion (and ANTI-CHRIST, no less!)

Pamela is busy trying to help Muslim people get FREE from the nightmare of Islam. Pamela is busy trying to warn THE WHOLE WORLD about the racist, misogynist hatred of Islam.

It is NOT a loving thing to leave sin un-confronted. Islam is the very institutionalization of sin. Pamela is helping the human race CONFRONT the evil of Islam.

LEARN here! Read here! LISTEN here. Evangelical Christians all over the world are NEEDED in prayer and in action to turn away the evil of Islam.

I think most people here actually love Muslims but it is ISLAM that must be crucified with Christ Jesus. There is no other hope for Islam (except in crucifixion) and Muslims MUST be set free from Mohammed's nightmare.

KAFIR AND PROUD!!

They were throwing softballs at El Gamal and Rauf while trying to bludgeon, unsuccessfully, Pamela.

BTW, I went to the ant-mosque rally in Brooklyn yesterday. Check out my photo and video report.

Isn't it interesting that so many people do not understand that, regardless of the intent of this "community center", It will be inspirational to the "adherents of True Islam"/extremists. Nor can they see the overt threat from imam Rauf that if we don't allow the building to go as planned, there will be a violent response from the "Religion of Peace." Really is sad that so many people are such moonbats.

Hi Pamela, I liked the website that exposes the truth. Do you know about major national issue in India, where temple was destroyed by the barbaric islamic invaders in 12th century and they placed a mosque. Now this place being unique holy place for original Indians(believed to be Lord Rama´s birthplace), is being claimed by Indians after they got free from Islamic and British rule. But unfortunately selfish politicians and corrupt courts are now going to favour a mosque in order to appease demands of Indian Muslims.

This indicates the nature of Islam and "peaceful" muslims.

Pam you did a great job especially under the circumstances. What a new low for 60 Minutes which I have been watching since I am 12 years old and has always been my favorite show. Man, Don Hewitt must be rolling in his grave. You call that journalism? How about how the Imam said to his congregates" Why are they so hostile, anyway their grandchildren will all be muslim?" How about the Imam's father who was part of the muslim brotherhood? How about That sleazy Shariff who was arrested for assault and talked about beating up a muslim woman who disagreed with them instead of engaging in writing? That was the Tweet you brought to the public's attention. KEEP SHOWING IT!! It doesn't matter if its a couple of months old. Where did the money come from - the 4.5 mil that sleazeball Shariff plunked down? And where is the other 100 mil coming from? Why did the Imam tell an Islamic website in Arabic - that he doesn't believe in multi-culturalism when thats all he preaches to us?

60 Minutes - Shame on you!! Thanks for all you are doing Pam. If you ever need my help don't hesitate to ask.

Best,

Michael Cohen

Amen!

Everything the media puts out smells all the way to hell in my eyes. So it is with this 60 Minutes coverage which is in my view is another attempt by the corrupted MSM to aid and abet radical Islam's inroads into America.

I personally believe that Obama is behind this mosque. I think he and the Muslim Brotherhood and other anti-American Islamists have been plotting to use the Ground Zero to create a violent Reichstag type incident in order to justify a suspension of the US Constitution and then to replace it with martial law--and sharia.

We'll see if i'm right. But I am as of now waiting to see the leftists currently dominating the US govenrment and the Muslims instigate a civil uprising in NY that will result in the military being called in.

i was born & raised protestant, & i protest geller's shriveled brain.

beyond average frequency, jews are bright, wise, magnanimous -- such as mayor bloomberg who approves of the islamic center. too bad geller is not amongst those jews. her's is an old, reptilian, unevolved brain; the type that's kept war alive for ... forever. she, like less altruistic jews, is very adroit at self-promotion.

these are AMERICANS who want to build & partake of the islamic center. many islamic americans ALSO died in 9-11 & left behind grieving family & friends.

you fulfill the 9-11 terrorist's aims by quashing this freedom of religion (found in the 1st amendment).

geller & her ilk unwittingly (what else?) hand the 9-11 terrorists victory over the higher ideals that the u.s. stands for.

geller & the like are not living the american creed. they live in the land of the free & of the brave, but they are not brave & they don't appreciate freedom for all.

she is not motivated by compassion for the victims from 9-11 & their relatives. she is motivated by a little brain & by hate.

No, Murray, the argument is only about the place, not that American Muslims have lesser rights in the West than Jews and Christians have.

But by saying "society" and "American" you also seem to limit your view to America. But I think in the Islam-Democracy-controversy of today, it is much more appropriate and fair to look worldwide.

And to begin to hold Muslim leaders and representatives as accountable as American ones. Or vice versa to hold American leaders and representative just as unaccountable as Muslim ones. Either they are both sane adult humans or both primitive and unaccountable, not just one of the 2 sides.

And in the countries where Muslims are in majority and power, they, and you by your silence, deny the Jews and Christians what the Muslims have. That is about a million times documented ad certain.

And you only seem to look at America and you seem only to admonish Americans, as if they are the only sane adult changeable humans, for their supposed lack of making sense. And you don't even realise the huge double standards you use.

YOU make no sense, in my, worldwide-looking, opinion!

Freedom of religion BETTER include freedom from religion by implication as I don't want some school board deciding to culturally sensitize my kids to Islam's splendors. Count me with Thomas Paine and Ethan Allen on this one.

You know what a victory is for the 9/11 terrorists? A 15 story Mosque at Ground Zero.

Is this book burning thing by the Obama administration true?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AT0qgjxJyRA

Pamela -- I am a strong supporter of yours and thank you profusely for all you do to bring light to this darkness. However, I did not think the 60 Minutes segment was your finest. You seemed really angry and I'm sure the typical liberal 60 minutes audience perceived you that way. If this was a boxing match, I would have to concede this round to your opponents. Having said that, I would encourage all who post here, and all who support what Pamela is doing, to take some time to write to CBS about the blatant bias in this 60 minute segment. What amazes me is that the talking points currently being used by Gamal and Rauf differ from the talking points they proffered when the project was first announced. Which leads me to another point...I know that Rauf held a few press conferences when he announced this mosque. I have been unable to locate and reports or transcripts of what was actually said and was wondering if anyone here had an idea where such comments might be found. That would be beyong what the NYT published in the article they ran on Dec 8, 2009 (not sure if the date is 100% on target!).

I thought Pelley and Gammal were going to hug at any moment...This is another media contrived fantasy, not to just protect the poor embattled Islam, but to further it's causes, which are the causes of Allah...
That is jihad...Smearing patriots like Pamela, Spencer, Geert Wilders and a number of others, has become their full time occupation, and their jihad...They are not terrorist, but they are jihadists...

Spokanetom,

You seem like a reasonably intelligent person. Have you read the Koran? If not, I advise you to do so. Make sure you understand the concept of Abrogation and Taqiyya before reading the Koran. You will find out that the peaceful verses of the Koran have been superseded by the more violent verses.

Do you know what Sharia Law is? I advise you to learn what it is since Imam Rauf fully supports the US becoming "Sharia Compliant". The US Constitution and Sharia Law are diametrically opposite so the Imam Rauf wishing to see the US becoming "Sharia Compliant" has only one implication.

Are you familiar with the term Islamic Rabat? How about Ghazis or the term Raizzas? There is so little you do know that I would advise you to do a little research before joining arms in lock steps with snakes like Imam Rauf and El Gammal. Check out this page for some information on the Ground Zero Mosque.

Many of us have woken up to the lies that Imam Rauf and other Islamic Jihadists sympathizers are spouting. We are no longer complicit with their charade on the American people.

As you know, there has been an astonishing lack of knowledge of the actual teachings of Islam among non-Muslims (for example: most non-Muslims have not known that the earlier "peaceful" suras of the Qu'ran are canceled by the later chronological suras which call for the deceit, domination and finally violence against the Dhimmis, Polytheists, atheists etc.).

However, many non-Muslims with "tolerance" values are abandoning PC with regard to Islam. Even Christopher Hitchens, in a recent article, noted that he thinks the term "islamophobia" is a dangerous concept.
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Pamela came across very well, direct and sincere. In the past, a person with Pamela's views would have had their motives questioned with the usual smears re bigotry etc. That was not on the radar in this 60 minutes segment. That's significant.

On the other hand, they gave quite a bid of time to Rauf-and his phoniness came across in body language and in that creepy way he has of speaking. There is something wrong with the imom. It comes across. El-Sham is just a cavone. But Rauf is creepy.

Pamela was treated as best as anyone with her views can be treated by a PC media at this time in history. In the future, she will be seen as heroic in her stand against this al-taqiyya being peddled at GZ.

(BTW-I think the 60 minutes people know a lot more about Rauf and El-Sham than they let on.)

'nuff already -- Your suggestions would make great sense if we were up against honest, consciencious journalists as the term was once understood. However, given what we, and especially Pam, are actually up against, writing letters to CBS may make us feel better but will do precisely nothing about changing their attitudes or their policies. It will let them know how many of us are out here watching what they are up to, but it won't change anything. The "typical liberal 60 Minutes audience" sitting on their butts Sunday night drinking the ROP kool-aid ladled out by CBS was just interested in being reassured that there's nothing to worry about and the people who disagree with them are just racist and intolerant. They would have tuned out anything Pam had to say.

As Rauf himself indicated in the audio Pam ran a couple of posts down, this is a high-level game with huge stakes and he is a major player, if only as a mouthpiece for the money men in Saudi Arabia and elsewhere in the Muslim World. Point is that he and his cohorts really can control how CBS covers this story, what it puts on the air and what it chooses to leave out. Check with Emerson, Bolton, Phares, anyone else who knows how extensive the political and media infiltration has been over the past 30-40 years and just project how easy it is to control an outlet that's as owned as CBS (or CNN, or MSNBC, or the rest of that gang) is. If it weren't for Pam, Robert, and other anti-Islamic supremacist warriors having fought to get this outrage into the public eye, organizing rallies and appearing in the media and getting FOX to pay attention, the entire Cordoba House/Park51 rabat project would have been barely a blip on the screen until well after the funding was in, the construction begun, and it was impossible to ignore -- or to stop -- it.

In sum, Rauf came across as creepy and ego driven, El-Sham as a cavone, and Pamela as the only one with a real cause that's bigger than herself. Pamela will never need religious costumes and hats to be taken seriously.

Was in disbelief as I watched the Imam speak so convincingly with determination to build this mosque in spite of the objections from the majority of Americans. So glad your right in there Pamela standing against this travesty. Good interview.

Bla bla bla bla. Nice copy/paste.

How about writing three lines of your own precisely reflecting what you think rather than indulging in obscure "poetry".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HX5-ulcdXc Real American hero of tolerance, peace and understanding.

Do you really believe infidels will be able to use the "community centres" amenities? Unlike the YM/WCA's, you won't be able to use the gym or swimming pool unless you are Muslim - you are unclean, if you were to swim in the pool at the center, it would have to be drained and completely scrubbed clean because you would have contaminated it. some people just don't get it or are unwilling to get it - they feel superior thinking they are enlightened and tolerant - Islam counts on that very reaction to implement Sharia.

Tolerance is not a virtue - it is not mentioned as being a virtue in any holy writings in any religion because we are not to tolerate evil or destructive ideas. Tolerance has historically had a very negative connotation because it means bearing what is not natural - bearing what is painful or very uncomfortable. The fact we need to tolerate something is a red flag that it goes against humanities own conscience's and threshold for pain. It is asking people to over-ride their natural dashboard warnings that are innate and serve to warn persons/groups/individuals of pending physical, emotional, physiological, or social danger. Tolerance is akin to unplugging all your dashboard warining lights and messages in your vehicle and then expect to not have any breakdowns or problems.

"Islam is neither Multicultural nor Pluralistic. In fact its the most INTOLERANT cult on the planet. "

Says who? The guy who never left the nowhere place where he was born?

Pamela came across as very sincere. Rauf looks and sounds exactly as he is and the 60 minutes people must have seen through him. Rauf is creepy and good reasons to keep himself well hidden. El-Sham reminds me of Curley from the three stooges. He's a cavone.

Bullshit. Since when does the domestic policy of any country dictate what we do in our country?

If the guys promoting this center are extremist jihadists like Mrs Geller claims, they have no place anywhere in this country or anywhere else.

Or they are peaceful Americans wanting to practice their faith like millions of their countrymen, and it is their first amendment right to do so and the place is not an issue.

The best answer America can give to the nut-jobs who pervert Islam is to welcome any initiative which promotes mutual understanding.

Do you realize that the $4.8 million for the Burlington coat factory was paid for in cash - this has been verified by other news agencies. The Imam and developer refuse to state where the money came from. That is not emotion or fear - that is fact. The developer made it sound like everyone would be able to use the center - open to all he said. what he did not say is that non-muslims are regulated tot he basement and will not be swimming in the pool or exercising in the gym with non-muslims because you are considered unclean. Your arrogance is showing, and will be your downfall. Where is your tolerance of those who do not want the Mosque - you essentially state that they have inferior brains. SpokaneTom, I'm sure there are Mosques in your city - go visit one - listen to their sermons - check out how welcome you are. Do not go by what anyone says - check it out for yourself.

For the SCOTUS building - you can say a prayer individually on the steps. Just not in a group.

Then why can't they just buy it? Unless actual terrorism occurs there, the government is powerless to stop it (unless one wants to build a housing project).

PROUD to be your FELLOW AMERICAN,Mary.
I WISH we could clone MOTHERS like you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ib9rofXQl6w This video explains thing quite nicely if you are new to islam.

Good job Pamela considering what you had to work with. You are a brave woman for even dealing w/CBS. It's such a shame they didn't have the balls to show the real deal and ask the hard questions, but then they never do. The positive is you will have new readers to be educated. It's almost comical that you and anyone that speaks out against islam and speaks the truth is called extremist. You are correct the truth is the new hate speech. Facts are not welcomed by those w/their heads up their asses.

I agree w/Frank, rauf is CREEPY and something just ain't right about him in addition to him being a criminal. Definitely could play the bad guy in a horror movie w/ease.

I mean really if the situation were reversed rauf would be having a hissy fit for Christians or otherwise to build on hallowed ground.

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