Riots in Dudley, Reports of Muslim Gangs Attacking People ............

UPDATE: Details are sketchy at the moment, and as is always so in the heat of breaking events, not all that is being reported may turn out to be accurate.

 

The EDL, the standard bearers of freedom in the UK, planned on another peaceful demonstration in Dudley today. They have come under fierce attack. Details are sketchy at the moment. Will update as news breaks. Do not look to the media for accurate reporting. They will report on this the way they report on the tea party: lies, distortions, slander.

The "Muslim Defense League" had planned to be there. According to EDL media, the EDL is being subjected to assaults by the police. Injuries have been caused and there is rioting in Dudley...gangs of Muslims are attacking people...THE MEDIA IS NOT REPORTING ANY OF THESE EVENTS...

An EDL coach driver has been attacked with a machete...will keep updating .. also please send me any information as you get it.

UPDATE: We have eyewitness accounts coming in of Muslims using cars to drive down English protesters in Dudley. There has been one report of an incident in which a car drove into four people, leaving them seriously injured and one woman dead. An air ambulance has landed to assist the injured. We are waiting for confirmation of this incident.

Six hurt as car hits pedestrians in Dudley BBC

Six pedestrians were injured, three seriously, when they were struck by a car in the West Midlands.

The ambulance service was called to the junction of King Street and Stafford Street, Dudley, at 1605 BST.

Three men, aged 42, 37 and 32 suffered head injuries. The 37-year-old also broke his leg.

Three others, including a girl aged 16 whose leg was broken, also needed hospital treatment.

An 18-year-old man suffered a foot injury and a 19-year-old man has a suspected broken leg, the West Midlands Ambulance Service said.

UPDATE: Sky news has reported damage to a Hindu Temple in Dudley.

Here, from the EDL, is an explanation of why they were holding a demonstration:

The Dudley super mosque still looms over the people of Dudley.

The council do not want it, the people of Dudley do not want it, the nation does not want it. They STILL try to force this mosque upon the people over-riding all accepted democratic processes.

The EDL will not leave the... people of Dudley to this fate. When we went there on April 3rd people came out of their houses to applaud us as we passed. People got out of their cars to give us the thumbs up. We have received hundreds of emails thanking us for our help in this matter.

We are proud to stand by the people of Dudley. We will not surrender.

That was the intent.

Picture of Israeli flags had to be removed for copyright (see comment section). If anyone has a picture of the EDL waving the Israeli flag, please send it to me writeatlas@aol.com

UPDATE: Durotrigan has early video of the EDL demonstration. The police have them tightly penned like animals.

There are two more videos that show:

the main body of the EDL demonstration continued to be confined in this penned area. Numbers are lower than at previous demonstrations, but there were EDL Facebook reports claiming that some coaches full of supporters were being prevented from reaching their destination. As can be seen, there is no sign of violence in any of the videos posted here.

UPFATE 4:43 pm: From Van

"The be all and end all of it is - as agreed by a number of people today - the Police simply didn`t want all the EDL who travelled in Dudley. 3 buses were laid on to ferry people to the demo. The buses went 2 miles or so to the demo point and never came back for the rest. Everyone started to walk, the police blocked everyone. After what seemed ages, most people had made their way to Castle hill and the police were there in force. Nobody was going to pass and they didn`t. Members were assaulted and sent on their way. Small groups were picked off by local Asians [UK speak for Muslims - Atlas]  - police confirmed this. I can`t comment what happened in the demo site as I never made it. But i did witness our coaches being stoned while police looked on, and a mob wandering around Dudley as if they owned the place - they then attacked police. Apologies if I have repeated myself - raging at the moment. "

Comments

[Bryan]

What happened to all the "Peaceful and Tolerant"? This is exactly why all Americans need to be awakened to the danger of Islam! As a Christian, I want to open the eyes of unbelievers. As Muslims, they want to open the necks of unbelievers. In the Koran, it says it is ok to lie to unbeliever-tuqiyya. Since that is true, as an unbeliever of Islam, I reserve the right to not believe words from the mouth of a Muslim. Their actions are telling me the true intentions

[sinisterp]

I concur, stop shit stirring about things you seem to have fuck all knowledge about.

[Mary Louise]

Dudley Police report blog, for what it's worth:
http://www.west-midlands.police.uk/latest-news/majoroperations/operation-belvedere/

[sinisterp]

According to EDL media, the EDL are being controlled by the police. Injuries have been caused but there is no rioting in Dudley...gangs of Muslims are not attacking people...THE MEDIA IS NOT REPORTING ANY OF THESE EVENTS... BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL IN THE TINY MIND OF THE AUTHOR...

EDL coach driver has not been attacked with a machete.. will keep making it up as I go along .. also can everyone post as much misinfomation as you get it

UPDATE: We have no eye witness accounts coming in of Muslims using cars to drive down English protesters in Dudley. One report of incident where 4 people that were driven into left them slightly injured and not even one woman is dead. We are waiting for confirmation of this incident and an air ambulance has landed to assist the injured. If we don't get any more info we'll just make it up as we see fit.

NEVER LET THE FACTS GET IN THE WAY OF A GOOD BULLSHIT STORY...

[sinisterp]

As a christian, you're as deluded as any other individual that needs to have invisible friends and giant sky daddies to get them through life, christians, muslims etc all idiots who might as well believe in the tooth fairy, go see a shrink.

[Van Grungy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbzcQ8zoNOE&feature=player_embedded

What's going on in this video? it looks like the EDL are being kettled in, and at the end of the video, who are the people on the small hill? I believe they are Muzzies or UAF throwing objects at the EDL, and the Police seem to respond.
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From the EDL Forum
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Lets see what gets uploaded to youtube....
You must be one of the MDL sinisterp... MDL Fail.

[duh_swami]

Some posters on Vienna are claiming that the reports of Muslim violence are greatly distorted...
Maybe, the reports coming in are sketchy...But soon we will know what is really what...

[apitt]

If you were half as intelligent as you present yourself to be you would not need profanity to make your vague and idiotic point. To put Christians, whose charity in the world is unrivaled, on the same plane as Islamic ideologues who desire to kill or convert nonbelievers deserves nothing but ridicule.

[Ibrahim]

What exactly is Geller suggesting? That her readers abandon genuine news sources and instead rely on her imaginative accounts that site no credible sources? Where are you getting your accounts from?

""Van Grungy said in reply to sinisterp..I believe they are Muzzies or UAF throwing objects at the EDL, and the Police seem to respond.""

Facts are not subject to your "believe". Are all the people who frequent this blog insane? Instead of waiting from facts from credible objective sources, you rely on the hateful rants of Pamela Geller.

[Wildcat84]

It is only a matter of time before ROPMA riots hit the United States. Dearborn, Minneapolis, everywhere they have substantial population it will happen.

[liberalsareclueless@yahoo.com]

Pam great find, doubtless we won't find it on the news. Islam is such a peaceful religion of love.
The people making denigrating comments are beyond clueless. Great policy to take all comers and allow them to demonstrate their vapidness.

A take home message for the ignorant among us above. Radicals have not hijacked Islam, Islam hijacked Muslims. They are born into a cult with absolutely no way out. What religion subject young babies and females to Genital Mutilation, Death by Stoning, Childhood marriage, Pedophilia, yep Mojo was probably the first recorded pedophile. Thanks for all you do exposing the truth. But of course if one leaves the cult, they become apostate and they must be killed.

[Jordan Bassior]

On what basis do you assume that the damage is being done by the EDL, rather than by the Muslims?

[Durotrigan]

There are a few videos of the demo here: http://durotrigan.blogspot.com/2010/07/videos-from-todays-edl-dudley.html

All show the EDL being confined to an area surrounded by metal barriers.

[Gnasheruk]

Take my photo down you do not have permission to use it. all my images are copyrighted.

[Samson]

something pretty serious must be going on judging by how the trolls jumped all over this.

[mod]

Sharia law is behind ALL muslim violence. Sharia law must be banned all over the world.

[LinksGalore]

Simply go to youtube and search - muslims riot - hundreds of vids come up.

[David]

If the West helps to increase the hostility between Shia and Sunni Muslims (in Iran, Iraq, Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, Pakistan,...) to kill each other in thousands every day, they wouldn't be able to unite and commit crime and violence in the West.

[LinksGalore]

Mod - that is the only way to undermine the enemies efforts. They are certainly free to be muslim - however, sharia does not belong anywhere in western society. Rather be charged with being anti sharia which is really the point - the so-called anti muslim accusations has too much emotionality. The Western world has the right to reject sharia.

[jane]

GOD BLESS THE EDL AND ALL THE BRITISH PEOPLE! I STAND BEHIND YOU AND WILL WRITE YOUR MP AND TELL HIM MY OPINION ABOUT HOW REAL-BRITISH PEOPLE ARE TREATED IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK EDL.

[Van Grungy]

"The be all and end all of it is - as agreed by a number of people today - the Police simply didn`t want all the EDL who travelled in Dudley. 3 buses were laid on to ferry people to the demo. The buses went 2 miles or so to the demo point and never came back for the rest. Everyone started to walk, the police blocked everyone. After what seemed ages, most people had made their way to Castle hill and the police were there in force. Nobody was going to pass and they didn`t. Members were assaulted and sent on their way. Small groups were picked off by local Asians - police confirmed this. I can`t comment what happened in the demo site as I never made it. But i did witness our coaches being stoned while police looked on, and a mob wandering around Dudley as if they owned the place - they then attacked police.
Apologies if I have repeated myself - raging at the moment. "

http://s1.zetaboards.com/EDL_The_Forum/topic/3599572/4/

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-black-country-10674271

Here's the only info from "Trusted" BBC...

[Underzog]

One EDLer succumbed to injuries after being run over. More fatality. Pray for our comrades!

[Pamela Geller]

Happy to take it down. Pics were sent unattributed. Which one is yours?

[mod]

Sharia law is political, not religious, and, as such, MUST BE BANNED.

[Iftikhar Ahmad]

Salaam

Muslim community through out Europe and Americas needs Mosques with minarets and state funded Muslim schools with bilingual Muslim teachers as role models. There is no place for a non-Muslim child or a teacher in a Muslim school.

The so-called civilised Westerners must learn to tolerate and respect those who are different. Islamophobia is a fear of Islam. Europeans are afraid that Muslim migrants will take over Europe and this is the biggest cause of Islamophobia.

Western Children are being taught unintentionally to fear Islam, and in some cases, HATE Muslims. It is not a sin to Muslims to kill non-Muslims. There are other negative things the children are learning. Prophet of Islam is being called a Raider of the Desert, a pedophile and an illiterate.

In 1974, Beligium recognised Islam as a state-supported religion. Today the country is considered one of the most xenophobic in western Europe.
Iftikhar Ahmad
http://www.londonschoolofislamics.org.uk

[Jew Lover]

Hope England doesn't go the way of France, by posting areas at official government web sites where non-muslims musn't go.

I believe that there are some who would prefer to die on their feet as free men, rather than live on their knees as dhimmis (2nd class citizens who are openly abused and subjugated) by muslims.

French in France can't go to 751 areas designated Muslim-Only areas

[underzog]

Samson, the trolls can't throw tapioca at our heroine so they're throwing taqqiyah over the Atlas board instead.

[underzog]

Update, blogmocracy now reports that the fatality report may be a rumor. Will keep eye on it.

[Gnasheruk]

The bottom one. 2 men holding flag. Thanks

[lisa <3]

Sharia law is behind ALL muslim violence. Sharia law must be banned all over the world.

[man_in_tx]

Iftikhar Ahmad arrogates privileged status to Muslims in Europe when he writes:
"Muslim community through out Europe and Americas needs Mosques with minarets and state funded Muslim schools with bilingual Muslim teachers as role models. There is no place for a non-Muslim child or a teacher in a Muslim school."

Okay Mr Ahmad: Two can play this absurd game: Christians and Jews in the Middle East (starting in Mecca and Medina) and South Asia need churches with bell towers and synagogues and state-funded Christian schools and Torah academies with bilingual Christian and Jewish teachers as role models. There is no place for a Muslim child or teacher in a Christian or Jewish school in Saudi Arabia, Yemen, the Sudan, Libya, Pakistan, or Afghanistan.

Since the Muslims in Europe have far more than Christians and Jews in the Middle East or South Asia, I submit the following: UNTIL freedom of religion for Christians and Jews is offered and realized throughout the Middle East and South Africa, no more Muslim immigration to the West, no more mosques or miniarets to be built in the West, no more Muslims schools to be built in the West, no more Muslim student societies on Western university and college campuses, and no more special rights for any reason for any Muslims in the West.

How does that sound for openers?

[man_in_tx]

That should have read "South Asia," not "South Africa."

[notadhimmi]

Right. And all the videos, photo evidence, eyewitness testimony about atrocities committed by muslim rabid dogs all over the world is imagination too, right. Mumbai, Madrid, London, NYC, etc are all lies and distortions. No, that is what muslims do. It is ok to lie in islam, as long as it to "infidels". More and more people are waking up to the fact that islam is about conversion or death, dhimmitude or death, etc. What a shocker!!! more muslim mindless violence. All these "honor killings" are fairy tales too, right? What planet do you live in? And yes I have been to the middle east, several times, and have seen the sick, depraved behavior and mindless violence projected by muslims. You are not fooling anyone with your bullshit. Not all of us are blind to attempted muslim domination. And will fight for our freedom. WOW! The main stream, politically correct media isn't reporting these events yet! Shocking! The true will be out soon enough. If muslims want to live in a total muslim world, stay in your shitty countries, instead of trying to forcibly change modern western countries into 7th century savagry.

[Ibrahim]

""man_in_tx said... Since the Muslims in Europe have far more than Christians and Jews in the Middle East or South Asia, I submit the following: UNTIL freedom of religion for Christians and Jews is offered and realized throughout the Middle East and South Africa, no more Muslim immigration to the West, no more mosques or miniarets to be built in the West, no more Muslims schools to be built in the West, no more Muslim student societies on Western university and college campuses, and no more special rights for any reason for any Muslims in the West.""

I submit that you're a moron and that ideas from people like you should be summarily dismissed without consideration.

There ARE Christian schools in Muslim-majority countries of South Asia. There is a Church of Pakistan, there are churches in Bangladesh and Indonesia and Malaysia. There is a significant Jewish population in Iran, contrary to the lies you hear in American media and anti-Muslim blogs. Christmas is a national holiday in most if not all of the South Asian Muslim countries (Pakistan, Bangladesh, Indonesia, Malaysia).

More importantly, it is absolutely stupid and bigoted to suggest a Muslim born in the US should have any of his rights and privileges lessened, to have his rights to form organizations in US colleges infringed because of what people in Saudi Arabia or Iran do. What your post DOES make clear is that you don't really have any genuine belief in human rights. You complain about things certain Muslims do, but you're overly eager to do the exact same thing yourself to the entirety of the Muslim population. Your whining about how Muslims treat people is just a pretext for old fashioned bigotry, a traditional sport of the American political Right that has been consistently practiced over the years, only with a change of target victim.

Given you believe that America should adopt a policy of absolute intolerance against Muslims, I don't see how you have any right to complain about the treatment of non-Muslims in the Middle East.

[Poosh]

Dear Pam etc, please be careful in calling the EDF "the standard bearers of freedom in the UK" as the jury is out as to if they are the real deal or not, certainly there might be a racist element to them that needs to be purged / or has been purged already. In the mild footage in the UK the EDF certainly looked like violent thugs - white trash - and threw some items at the police. However you can't tell the whole story from the footage. I cannot speak about this incident but there have been past incidents when the EDF have been attacked and abused by the "Unite against Facsim" or whatever in past events - clearly the EDF were obeying the law.

However your blog article has been more informative than what the UK media over here seems to be reporting.

[crystal]

I heard he was a pedophile & rapist

[grungyoldvan]

btw... Just reposting from the links provided.... notice the quote marks.... thanks..

[grungyoldvan]

boo hoo

[Finn Thiele]

I am moving to Egypt next month for 4 years: It would never cross my mind to demand from the Egyptian government to finance my church, separate me from Muslims and throw it's entire judicial system and values overboard so I can live my life as I please.

So your saying Muslims should be separated from non-Muslims, because we are different. Vietnamese and Europeans are "different" but they make no hassle similar to the ones Muslims make. They adapt brilliantly to our society yet people like you are demanding special treatment/the formation of a bicultural society. Is this how we are supposed to get a long? No way; The West consists of pluralists societies. And with all due respect, this fear will grow if you deny children the opportunity to meet/interact in kindergartens/schools regardless of race and religion.

You don't want your children to interact with non-Muslim children (in schools)? Then leave Europe/the USA. Because if you want to deny your child to be able to make friendships with non-Muslims, in case of immigrants:deny your child to adapt to a Western environment/learn the language, than you can't assimilate to our country and it's values and we will not assimilate ourselves to you.

Speaking tolerance: You should learn to tolerate our constitutions; our moral values, are beliefs in free speech, free press, freedom of movement etc. . You should learn that in our country criticizing religions/beliefs is not considered a crime punishable by the law. Nobody is immune to criticism, all men are created equal. If you think you are a subject of racism than feel free to point this out; but don't expect us to embrace you, if you attempt to kill off our freedoms, by shutting yourselves out of our societies; If you don't like freedom of speech (which also has the negative side effect of "open" racism) then move to a country that doesn't have freedom of speech.

You know what the real problem is? The social programs which allow people/immigrants to survive in our countries without needing to learn the language, adapt to our culture or have contact with natives/non-Whateveryouares. Everyone can survive without even making an effort to assimilate themselves, as long as taxpayers are stupid enough to pay for all your costs.

[mod]

The problem is, islam is NOT a religion, islam is a false, violent political movement that hides behind phony religious double talk

[BL@KBIRD]

All the Muslim fanboys are upset. Poor Muslim fanboys, what will they do when their welcome is entirely worn out?

[Laura L]

islam is a blight on humanity. Islam needs to be banned in western countries and muslims must deported en masse.

[patti]

BASTARDS!

[Pv]

looks like they are beginning to coordinate their peaceful activities across good old europe...

[anon]

honestly what is this doing on the google blog pages.

[karl]

I attended the march today it was all going peaceful until a young 17 year old lad was hit from behind by a police man with a steel cosh leaving a 4 inch gash on his head which exposed his skull, then within 5 minutes the police attacked using police dogs people were unable to get out of the way and there were over 8 or 9 dog bites one on a young girl who had to be carried away from the scene i challenged the police about this and was told to fuck of and mind my own biz i asked the police man to please turn his cosh over for forensic evidence due to the unlawful wounding of the young lad and then the police man hid his cosh behind his back and refused to show it there was no control to speak to i am an ex British army soldier and have a very good working knowledge of police procedure having worked with them on riot training they exceeded there powers and the result there was one fatality and over 40 people injured the police had 4 medic's at the scene with about 6 dogs all being used to bite people who were unable to move due to the fact of there being a crowd behind them and they were trapped

[karl]

here here i agree totally with you i was the ex army guy on the stage in the combat jacket

[Doug]

I see some interesting parallels between Europe and America. Europe has 'no-go areas' due to the mooselimbs. America has 'no-go' areas due to the mooselimbs and the Mexicans. Europe corrals their citizens when they speak out against the mooselimb takeover. America shuts down its' citizens when we speak out against the out-of-control Mexican invasion and the Somolian invasion. Europe will not identify Islam nor will America identify Islam as the enemy within. European citizens are sick and tired of being second class in their own countries. Americans are fed up with being third class citizens here.

The mooselimbs believe that they have the upper hand. Here in America we haven't yet started to play 'cowboys and mooselimbs'.

[Laura Lee]

I am "Laura Lee" ~~ didn't sign in as "Laura L"... but my... it's as if. Ditto Laura L. Deport now. Start at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

[karl]

Islam is an evil cult no more no less get it into your head that you are the intolerant pigs trying to make us non Muslims bow down to ur twisted corrupt religion

[Poosh]

EDF!? Earth Defence Force.!?

I mean EDL

[Poosh]

I find it hard to believe the police would have acted illy towards the EDL unless they asked for it - which they may have given their origins but it is probable the police agree with the EDL. I am wary of claims of police brutality towards fellow travellers.

[when*pigs*fly]

Sure:
1)when non-believers can enter Mecca & Medina
2) when non-believers may wear the jewellry of their religion freely in any muslim country without it being ripped off their bodies
3)when non-believers may carry holy books of their religion within any muslim country without having it confiscated & destroyed
4)when monuments to the religion of unbelievers: cathedrals, churches & synagogues can be built most anywhere and in any number in muslim countries
5) when there are churches, synagogues & cathedrals in mecca & medina
6) when muslims apologize for all of the atrocities committed by muslims (millions & millions of deaths since the creation of islam)

Then we could think about perhaps talking about your demands, Ooops, I mean requests.

[lilredbird]

Karl

Why are the police doing this? We recently had a similar situation in Dearborn, Michigan, where some Christian missionaries were arrested while engaged in peaceful discussion -- they have the video posted and there is no violent or inciteful behavior of any kind on their part -- at a Muslim festival. What have the police to gain by siding with the Muslims this way? Even with what we know, it is shocking to think law enforcement would collaborate in such a way.

[Lenin-McCarthy]

This pisses me off too!

[ParahSalin]

@ sinisterp - You are neither thoughtful, well read, or kind. Please find help.

[howardroark43]

God bless the EDL... hang in there brave lads because it won't be long until your countrymen will have no reservations about standing next to you!

muslims' don't really understand the backlash in store from them when the tipping point is reached...

[howardroark43]

eff you ibrahim, you muslim POS... your islamic opinion means nothing to americans... true americans, of which you are not and will never be. anything you say is meaningless because you are a muslim, born to lie and deceive and destroy and slowly but surely, all americans are coming to this crystal clear epiphany.

[CameoRed]

Ibrihim,

man_in_tx used the phrase "freedom of religion."

Never, ever confuse "religious tolerance" with "religious freedom."

They are not even close to the same thing.

Muslims often say "Islam has religious tolerance," and it does, sort of. However, that tolerance is NOT religious freedom. It is "tolerance" in the sense that (a very few) other religions are "tolerated" (i.e., "suffered with", "put up with," "permitted"), and the followers of those "tolerated" religions are subject to very severe conditions and restrictions.

"Religious freedom" on the other hand means that one is free to choose a religion (e.g., no punishment for apostasy) and one's choice of religion has no conditions and no diminishment or change of other rights.

Saudi Arabia has little or no "religious tolerance."

No Muslim country in the world has "religious freedom."

[Beege]

Agree with man_in_tx. Christians or any other religion in Middle East countries must hide to practice their religion in peace or be subjected to abuse and worse death. Ibrahim you are a liar that Christians have the same government support, rights and freedoms as Muslims do in Western Countries. We should remove any incentive for a Muslim to come to the west and then they will return to their countries and leave ours alone.

[AuntieMadder]

You should take your own advice, dumbass.

[AuntieMadder]

Are you too stupid or too lazy to click on the links, one of the being the BBC?

[AuntieMadder]

Perhaps the Muslims in high places are giving them their orders. As any plumber can tell you, shit flows downhill.

[AuntieMadder]

Perhaps the Muslims in high places are giving them their orders and it's either follow those orders or get in the unemployment line. As any plumber can tell you, shit flows downhill.

[Choi]

Dave "Gnasheruk":
You're a POSTER BOY for why Britain is in this situation.
You should Worry more about what's HAPPENING in your country and NOT your DAMNED "COPYRIGHT"!
YOUR "COPYRIGHT"?
You SHOULD THANK Pamela for Posting the picture someone sent her.
Your Merry Old England is UNDER INVASION and You worry about YOUR FKG "COPYRIGHT"?!
FY

[WAKE UP]

There is NO SUCH THING as "Islamophobia". There is, however, growing awareness of, and incresing resistance to, Muslim madness - and when this resistance finds its stride, the Muslim incursion into the West will be OVER, big time, and it will serve you right. If you could actually grow up (which, being brainwashed, you can't) you'd realise that you've missed a golden chance to lead a good life.

If you wish to survive this process, GO HOME NOW. There is nothing more to be said.

[WAKE UP]

WAKE UP said in reply to Iftikhar Ahmad (ABOVE):

There is NO SUCH THING as "Islamophobia". There is, however, growing awareness of, and increasing resistance to, Muslim madness - and when this resistance finds its stride, the Muslim incursion into the West will be OVER, big time, and it will serve you right. If you could actually grow up (which, being brainwashed, you can't) you'd realise that you've missed a golden chance to lead a good life.

If you wish to survive this process, GO HOME NOW. There is nothing more to be said.

[WAKE UP]

There is NO SUCH THING as "Islamophobia". There is, however, growing awareness of, and incresing resistance to, Muslim madness - and when this resistance finds its stride, the Muslim incursion into the West will be OVER, big time, and it will serve you right. If you could actually grow up (which, being brainwashed, you can't) you'd realise that you've missed a golden chance to lead a good life.

If you wish to survive this process, GO HOME NOW. There is nothing more to be said.

[No Muslima slave]

Okay, if you're going to shriek for all your "rights," it's also the right of American NON-Muslims to question why someone would ever follow a man who is recorded as having had sex with a 9-year-old girl, murdered hundreds of people, and taken their wives as sex slaves. We have the right to watch carefully and with great suspicion anyone who would follow such a man, who is a horrendous criminal by our standards - that is, CIVILIZED standards.

So, while you are crying "rights!" we too are crying the right to put all followers of this cult of violence and woman-enslavement under a microscope. If they commit crimes according to OUR laws, such as following in the footsteps of their "Perfect Man" in having sex with 9-year-old girls, murdering people and kidnapping their victims' wives as sex slaves, we have the RIGHT to slap their asses into jail and possibly execute them.

We also have the right to prevent buildings that further this message of following a man whose "perfect" behavior included having sex with a 9-year-old girl, murdering hundreds of people, and kidnapping their wives as sex slaves. And so on, ad nauseam.

M'kay?

[No Muslima slave]

What a complete and total idiot - are you a spoofer? You couldn't be dumber. Here you are castigating non-Muslims for being "Islamophobic," and then you are stupidly giving them reasons to be Islamophobic, including your infidel-hating bigotry in calling for segregation!

"There is no place for a non-Muslim child or a teacher in a Muslim school."

And why do you think Belgium has turned against Islam? Perhaps because Muslims have separated themselves out, following the arrogant and megalomaniacal example set in the Koran and reiterated by you here?

Moron. You represent some sort of organization in the UK? Brits, you are doomed.

[Demsci]

Ibrahim, as pointed out, the difference in tolerance and equal rights for religious minorities is enormous between what is practised in non-Muslim-territory towards Muslims and what is practised in Islam-territory towards religious minorities there.

And you think Muslims in non-Muslim-territory should NOT be treated in a disadvantaged way because of religious minorities being treated in a often VERY disadvantaged way by Muslims.

And that would be OK too, if it were proven and beyond doubt that Muslims in Democratic countries are 100 % loyal to these countries and all of their laws, values and interests and NOT prefer Islamic laws, values and interests over these when the 2 are in contradiction.

But it seems that much of Islamic doctrine and leadership, and hence many followers too, see Islam, the Ummah, as what is to be loyal to first and foremost. Muslims often see the world divided in Dar-ul-Islam and Dar-al-Harb, and mankind in Muslims and infidels.

Now, if Muslims themselves see the world faith-wise (and not nationwise), as divided in Muslims to be more loyal to than to any infidels, then the infidels also have a right to hold all Muslims accountable. Until they have sworn allegiance first to the democratic state and its laws, values and interests when these are in conflict with Islamic ones. And even after Muslims have sworn such oaths they still have to build a massive amount of trust, because by now the trustworthyness of Muslims is very low. On account of all the Islamic teachings, leaders'declarations and violent acts of oppression and terrorism committed by self-proclaimed Muslims.

[Beege]

Islamic Deep Pockets buying off the UK government and Police it sounds like? Doing the same in the US. What the hell is the governments and police in our countries thinking of attacking it's own citizens and showing support for Islam? Mullahs in their caves are laughing at how they are turning us against each other. Once Islam rules Britain the US will welcome our English brothers to the US as the last stand against Islam. The Cowboys and Mooselimbs should start now before it is too late.

[Grockle]

They were penned in like animals because they are bloody animals! EDL are a waste of space.

If you love them so much, then why don't you invite them over there? Nobody wants them here.

[Gary Sheedy]

Grockle - thank you - Questions for you. Where do your sympathies actually lie? Are you really a Brit? - Do you have Islamist sympathies? What do you suggest is done about the steady onslaught of Islamism in the UK? So far, the EDL are the only ones who want my country to be the way it was before multiculturalism, neo-liberalism, globalism and eventual dhimmitude.

I suspect, and I know you'll be only too pleased to tell me if I'm wrong - that you're a typical "give them what they want and they'll leave us in peace" and "I believe what the UK government says without question" or "some of my best friends are in the Muslim Defence League" person - dangerous not only to yourself but to the rest of us, who don't want to be dictated to by followers of a dangerous cult in OUR country, especially when they're aided and abetted by the likes of you.

If these "animals" (your words, not mine) didn't have the guts to stand up and be counted, and people like you have their way - we'll be seeing you in the dhimmi queues up and down the country, to receive what our Muslim masters deem fit for us to receive. No thanks, Grockle - go kiss their backsides if you want - but don't expect us all to follow like sheep. I'm ashamed of people like you.

[Leonie]

Poosh... where are you from? Are you a Brit, or do you live in the UK? If you don't you should know that the UK government classes the EDL with the likes of the BNP and other "far right" groups - hence the police are given carte blanche to stop them any way possible. The police have their hands tied - their "masters" the government have them so tied up with politically correct behaviours, plus the whole lot of them are sh*t scared of the Muslims kicking off if we don't give in to what they want - the police are between a rock and a hard place. Doesn't mean they can brutalise British citizens standing up for their rights, though.

I neither know or particularly care where your sympathies lie - but what your posts show is that you tend to follow the cautious line. I think the time's come to stop being cautious. I think Pam Geller's right, too - the EDL seem to be the only ones putting their money where their mouths are.

[Leonie]

Poosh... where are you from? Are you a Brit, or do you live in the UK? If you don't you should know that the UK government classes the EDL with the likes of the BNP and other "far right" groups - hence the police are given carte blanche to stop them any way possible. The police have their hands tied - their "masters" the government have them so tied up with politically correct behaviours, plus the whole lot of them are sh*t scared of the Muslims kicking off if we don't give in to what they want - the police are between a rock and a hard place. Doesn't mean they can brutalise British citizens standing up for their rights, though.

I neither know or particularly care where your sympathies lie - but what your posts show is that you tend to follow the cautious line. I think the time's come to stop being cautious. I think Pam Geller's right, too - the EDL seem to be the only ones putting their money where their mouths are.

[libhomo]

You are relying on a factually inaccurate blog posting to form your opinions. If you go to credible news sources, you find that it was actually the EDL which was violent.

[Gromit]

Gary Sheedy - Grockle sounds like a troll from the Muslim camp to me. Well said, by the way. I notice you didn't get an answer to your questions.

Man in tx – you’re a better man than I am, to answer Iftikar Ahmad in such a reasonable way. It will probably go over his head.
To other posters – do you feel as I do, that thanks to “liberalist, celebrate differences” politicians, truth and reality are being turned on their heads? What’s happened to us? How did we let ourselves be cajoled, commanded and then threatened to believe all the BS they’re telling us?

Geert Wilders is the man who can make sure the world sees the truth – and if you as Westerners, brought up to reason for yourselves about what sits well with you all, agree with what he’s trying to do – then stop hesitating and get with him. I certainly would – all I need to know is where to sign.

Ibrahim you seem to be very good at al takeyya. There may be Christian schools in Asia but how long do they last when Muslims take it into their heads to feel insulted by them? How many Christians have been murdered in Indonesia, for example? In Pakistan, in India?

http://www.asianews.it/news-en/Bekasi,-anti-Christian-persecution-continues.-A-Protestant-church-targeted-17563.html

http://www.gfa.org/persecution/news/

[ethan]

http://www.youtube.com/user/sizzy121#p/u
http://www.youtube.com/user/sizzy121#p/u/0/HzGz0GI57g8

[merkur]

Draw your own conclusions: http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/video/2010/may/28/english-defence-league-uncovered.

Oh, of course. The Guardian is part of the "mainstream media" and therefore prima facie not to be trusted.

[mark smith]

How can this be stopped?There are already a LOT of people dying because of these riots!

http://www.lifeinsurancecoverage.org.uk/

[juniper]

What would you know about GENUINE news sources, Ib? Talking about Press TV, Al Arabiya, CNN, BBC?? Muslims are not familiar with the truth so how would you know, Ib? You only know what you LIKE to hear. You are taught from birth to lie and spread taqqiya.

Get off this site, you repulsive troll!

[juniper]

Dear Poosh, the only people who use the phrase "white trash" are middle-class national socialists. You were not there so you don't know what happened.

Let's be totally clear here: your little fiends the great unwashed UAF/muslimes are the violent ones.

You certainly cannot speak about this incident, as you are unable even to remember the correct abbreviation for the English Defence League.

[Nisse]

Islam is NOT the religion of peace, it is "The Religion of Violence".

As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country/region/city they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness:

Nation % Muslim
United States 1.0%
Australia 1.5%
Italy 1.5%
Norway 1.8%
Canada 1.9%
China 2.0%

At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs:

Nation % Muslim
Denmark 2.0%
United Kingdom 2.7%
Germany 3.7%
Spain 4.0%
Thailand 4.6%

From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. They will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply. (United States).

Nation % Muslim
Switzerland 4.3%
Philippines 5.0%
Sweden 5.0%
The Netherlands 5.5%
Trinida and Tabago 5.8%
France 8.0%

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islam is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions (Paris –car-burnings). Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats (Amsterdam - Mohammed cartoons).

Nation % Muslim
Guyana 10.0%
India 13.4%
Israel 16.0%
Kenya 10.0%
Russia 15.0%

After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning:

Nation % Muslim
Ethiopia 32.8%

At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare:

Nation % Muslim
Bosnia 40.0%
Chad 50.1%
Lebanon 59.7%

From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels:

Nation % Muslim
Albania 70.0%
Malaysia 60.4%
Qatar 77.5%
Sudan 70.0%

After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide:

Nation % Muslim
Bangladesh 83.0%
Egypt 90.0%
Gaza 98.7%
Indonesia 86.1%
Iran 98.0%
Iraq 97.0%
Jordan 92.0%
Morocco 98.7%
Pakistan 97.0%
Syria 90.0%
Tajikistan 90.0%
Turkey 99.8%
United Arab Emirates 96.0%

100% will usher in the peace of 'Dar-es-Salaam' — the Islamic House of Peace — there's supposed to be peace because everybody is a Muslim:

Nation % Muslim
Yemen 99.9%
Afghanistan 100.0%
Saudi Arabia 100.0%
Somalia 100.0%

Of course, that's not the case. To satisfy their blood lust, Muslims then start killing each other for a variety of reasons.

www.TheReligionOfPeace.com

[Tyler]

What happened to your country, people of Britain?! You have let your culture and land be contaminated by the wretched cancer that is Islam. Why do you condone it? Drive these people out of your society. They insist westerners leave Muslim nations, then insist they take the first step, and leave, or be forced out!

[Radegunda]

Westerners have been taught a highly sanitized version of Islam, which is why so many gullible Westerners are eager to tolerate aggressive Islam in their midst. Some of us, however, have had the clarity of mind to observe the facts right in front of us and the facts of history.

The whole history of Islam is driven by hatred of everything that's outside Islam, and violence and deceit as instruments of conquest. The essence of Islam is hatred of the non-Islamic and ruthless imperialism. Everything else is window dressing.

[Radegunda]

People who have their eyes open have learned to treat any statement by a Muslim with great skepticism--such as the absurd claim that the planned mosque at Ground Zero is intended to foster tolerance and mutual understanding.

Some of us know that what Muslims say among themselves--when they think no infidels are listening--is very different, and much more hateful, than the soothing taqiya they spoon out to infidels. Some of us have read the shockingly hateful and violent teachings in the authoritative texts of Islam, and heard the hatred spewed by the most "respected" imams.

The plain fact is that the more Muslims there are within a non-Muslim society, the more miserable life becomes for everyone else. The more Islamic a society becomes, the more hellacious it becomes.

Very few people move to Islamic countries to find a better life. Millions of people move out of Islamic countries to find a better life--and some of them, still in the grip of their narrow ideology, then go about spreading Islamic misery in formerly pleasant countries.

[Mary]

Where Sharia law is implemented (or where there are enough Muslims to implement it of their own accord), the attempt at "dialogue" is misguided. To dialogue about an issue implies that both parties are reasonable and want to come to a reasonable solution to a problem. It is similar to how law enforcement used to deal with domestic violence disputes. Then, the psychological components were studied and it was realized that the balance of power was so in favor of the abuser (victims having been conditioned and Stockholmed) that there was no desire for reasonableness, only what the abuser wanted/felt entitled to. It was also discovered that the combination of counseling and punishment (i.e. jail time and separation from a victim, who is scapegoated for the abuser's inadequacy/insecurity/rage) was the only thing that resulted in changed behavior on the abuser's part. Similarly, when Sharia law guarantees Muslims privilege, immunity from prosecution of crimes against non-Muslims, slavery of non-Muslims, and the infidel "tax" (i.e., plunder), the attempt to "dialogue" about the treatment of non-Muslims and the implementation (officially or unofficially) of Sharia law is worthless. Jihad crimes need to be classified as hate crimes against non-Muslims and prosecuted as such, even on the local level.

[Jo]

Liberalsareclueless: How spot on your post is. Agreed, Islam IS A CULT. There is NO religion in the civilized world that espouses KILLING for revenge of those who say something against any religion or ANY of the barbaric actions of Islam. They think it their right to KILL those who do NOT practice their Religion-(CULT) These Radical Muslims/Islamists who degrade, kill, maim and cause barbaric attrocities on their female population-NEED TO BE REMOVED FROM ANY CIVILIZED COUNTRY AND SENT BACK TO THEIR 'MOSLEM, MALE MYSOGINISTS, CHILD RAPING, FEMALE HATING CAVES'
THEY ARE BARBARIANS AND NEED TO BE TREATED AS SUCH. THIS IS A CULT-NO OTHER RELIGION TEACHES IT'S FOLLOWERS TO HARM OTHER HUMAN BEINGS AS THEY DO. RID SOCIETY OF THESE ANIMALS AND EXPEL THEM FROM FRANCE, UK, AMERICA, ETC. THEY SHOULD STAY WHERE THEY CAN PRACTICE THEIR SHARIA BULLSHIT, WHICH IS A RIGHT TO KILL SOMEONE WHO LOOKS SIDEWAYS AT THEM. WHAT STUPID MYSOGINISTS.

[Biff]

Credible news sources libhomo? do you mean the credible NUJ controlled news sources that report stories in away that reinforces your view of events? I've seen these demos and seen where I come from destroyed by mass immigration, Hardly any of the many violent racist muslim demos are reported on by "credible news sources". There are no "credible news sources" among the MSM. Typical liberal you need lies to support your world view as it is itself based on lies and needs the MSM's proganda to support it. Thankfully the left's time of dominance is coming to an end and soon all those who have tried to dismantle our ancient country and culture will have to pay the price for their actions. These are our lands and we will take them back. Its not smart to allow other's to do your thinking for you.

Tolerance as it is used equals stupidity and diversty is the same as sucide for Europeans. These are tools that have been crafted to destroy us but presented as the height of modern morality. The ideas you think of as your own and believe make you better than those who disagree with you have been manufactured and handed to you. They are full of contradictions, do not stand up to scrutiny and need to supress all dissent as they fall apart in the face of the truth that is the society they helped to create. Liberalism/Socialism is a nightmare, only flawed individuals support them and only for dubious reasons. The violence as always was started by the Muslims. Take your head out of the sand, if they win Liberals and "Homo['s]"(sic) will be the first to taste "Islamic justice" (rofl).

[Biff]

Ibrahim I agree we should be segregated by a few thousand and some clear blue water,you in your lands us in our's. Go home we dont want you living amongst us you have added no value to our live's or our culture's. You or your forebears' choose to come here because of what our countries could offer you not because of anything you could offer us. Your people and culture created what you wanted to escape from now its being recreated in the West. Your the problem not us. If you dont like it leave, we will do fine without you I dont think the same could be said of you without us.

[Biff]

West Midlands Police have a Muslim Chief Inspector..say no more

[Biff]

Clearly their not to be trusted. Last year an article by a typically weak, stupid and effiminate Grunidad propagandist tried to prove that muslims terrorist's posed no threat to the UK and that the big threat did in fact come from ... Far right terrorist groups ..WTF. Any news source that backs teh liberal consensus cannot be trusted it's main purpose will always be the maintainence of that lie rather than the reporting of the truth.

[CC]

Please make at least a tiny effort to check your facts, we have witnesses of the car driving into people, it was being driven by a coloured man with dreadlocks & his only passanger was asian, the police have said it was an accident, could you please explain how a car can sit at traffic lights revving it engine, plow through a group of people & be considered an accident

[CC]

Sorry Mary, my rant wasn't aimed at you but sinisterp, having not replied on this site before I seem to have clicked on the wrong icon

[CC]

Please note that the reports of someone being killed are wrong, I don't hold it against you however because one of our EDL lads spoke to an inspector to get confirmation or denial of the rumour & the inspector told him at the time it was true

Also we've had several reports from Dudley residents that the windows on the temple were smashed last week & were fixed within days, one local visited the temple that evening & reported that there was no damage to the windows, any photos of damage are at least a week old

[cottoneyed]

There is no distinction between the Muslim, or the so called "moderate" Muslim. There is one Islam, and it has NO tolerance for the non believer. This makes Islam incompatible with Western Civilization. Western Civilization has been under attack by the left for the last 60 years, and they have found an ally in Islam. Who can forget Jesse Jackson, demonstrating against Western Civilization, shouting, "hey hey ho ho, Western Civ. has got ta' go". Little does the left realize that it is they and their permissive culture that most offends the Islamists, and it is they who will lose their heads first if the Shariah is ever instituted here in America. It is absolutely critical that the left be defeated beginning in the elections this November. The left represents the gravest danger this country has ever faced. They simply must be defeated, no less than the survival of the country hangs in the balance.

[loopy]

i was there, i saw first hand the bias towards edl from west muslim police force, 100 strong muslims running down castle hill as the aggressors, so police baton and hit english men to move us away, ham fisted attempt at reasonable control, and why when the men turned their backs to walk away did porky pigs have to lash out or shove ? just to try to get a reaction so they could split more heads open. utter joke. no action taken against the muslims at all. i was pigging furious. why dont you go to one meeting as independant before talking tripe. seems you are just scratching for the sake of your blinkered opinion.

[TONY]

Edl are a bunch of hooligans lookin for trouble because they are havin a mid life criss.
bunch of scums

[skai]

"I reserve the right to NOT believe words from the mouth of a Muslim.Their actions are telling me the truth intentions" You are right. Non muslims MUST NEVER believe any muslim no matter how friendly he/she may be. From Quran Sura 5:51" Believers ,take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends and protectors for they are friends and protectors of one another,whoever of you seeks their friendship and supports them,shall become one of their number.Allah does not guide the wrongdoers" NEVER,NEVER,NEVER trust MUSLIM. www.blip.tv/file/1382254 www.faithfreedom.org www.thereligionofpeace.com