Muslims To Declare State in Israel, Ask OIC-UN to Recognize Fakestinian State

Who are the most vulnerable in today's malevolent world? America's allies. America's allies are the most vulnerable.

The worst president of the free world will yield the worst results. Catastrophic. This latest move by the Muslims to rout the Jews owes much to Obama's sanction of an Organization of Islamic Conference (OIC) driven UN. Obama will increasingly relinquish American sovereignty to the UN. (That's how Obama will go after your guns.)

Caroline Glick wrote of Netanyahu's visit with Obama last week:

Once again, US President Barack Obama has demonstrated his intention of "putting light" between America and Israel. His hostility toward Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu during the latter's visit to Washington this week was breathtaking.

It isn't every day that you can see an American president leaving the prime minister of an allied government twisting in the wind for weeks before deciding to grant him an audience at the White House.

It isn't every day that a visiting leader from a strategically vital US ally is brought into the White House in an unmarked van in the middle of the night rather than greeted like a friend at the front door; is forbidden to have his picture taken with the president; is forced to leave the White House alone, through a side exit; and is ordered to keep the contents of his meeting with the president secret. 

"Palestinians to ask UN to recognise state," by Nasser Abu Bakr for AFP, November 16 (thanks to Sr. Soph):

The objective here is not so much to get a state, although certainly a Palestinian state would serve as a useful base for their continuing jihad against Israel. (It would also be an international welfare state existing off jizya from the West.)

The objective is to gain another resolution from the OIC-dominated UN that would portray Israel as an outlaw state, in violation of international law and consensus.

The Palestinians said Sunday they plan to ask for UN recognition of their independence, amid mounting frustration over the stalled peace process as Israel warned against any unilateral moves.

"We have reached a decision... to go to the UN Security Council to ask for recognition of an independent Palestinian state with east Jerusalem as its capital and with June 1967 borders," chief Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erakat told AFP.

He was referring to the West Bank, Gaza Strip and mostly Arab east Jerusalem that Israel captured during the 1967 Six Day War.

"We're going to seek support from EU countries and Russia and other countries" for the measure, he said.

Erakat's comments came amid growing frustration among the Palestinians with so-far ineffective US efforts to relaunch peace negotiations with Israel that were suspended during the Gaza Strip war at the turn of the year....

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said on Sunday there was no alternative to negotiations to secure peace and that any unilateral moves by the Palestinians would unravel past agreements.

Palestinian officials said they were planning on taking their quest for independence to the U.N. Security Council, aiming to secure international support for a state.

"There is no substitute for negotiations between Israel and the Palestinian Authority and any unilateral path will only unravel the framework of agreements between us and will only bring unilateral steps from Israel's side," Netanyahu said.

Netanyahu, who was addressing a forum on the Middle East in Jerusalem, did not make a direct reference to the Palestinians' decision to turn to the U.N. for recognition for a future state.

He also made no mention of the possible unilateral steps that Israel would make should the Palestinians unilaterally seek international support for a state.

Saeb Erekat, chief Palestinian negotiator, said earlier on Sunday there was no time frame for the diplomatic initiative to secure backing for the state in the West Bank and Gaza Strip. "When we are ready, we will go," he told Reuters.

Palestinians attributed the move to frustration at the lack of progress in peace negotiations with Israel which have been stalled for a year. (Reporting by Ari Rabinovitch; Writing by Joseph Nasr; Editing by Jon Hemming)

Comments

[sheik yer'mami]

Lets call it JIZIYASTAN.....

[CHOI]

ISRAEL's "WAR OF INDEPENDENCE" HAS NEVER ENDED!

[Henrik]

Well, at least it should be time to stop subsidizing them. We need our money at home, not in some whacked-out statelet awash in corruption and anti-semitism.

[Sarastro]

Israel, get out your planes --- a few big bombs on Mecca and Medina and Jiddah and all the rest would be taken care of. What are you waiting for?
Be brave, be bold, take out their holy places, Iran is not the problem, it's Islam, and Islam could cease to exist in the twinkling of an eye, if you wish. Don't ask for permission, do what's best for Israel. Expel the illegal immigrants occupying Samaria and Judea, give them 24 hours to disappear --- transport them all to Somalia, that's a good place for them. If only they would just blow themselves up. If they don't, then you Israel, blow them up, they are parasites. Start acting like a sovereign country, don't accept Obama's shabby treatment, call out the Mossad --- act like the Lion of Judah. Israel, you are the salvation of the world, act now, with every passing day your advantage decreases.
The free world is looking to you, America is ham-strung, bold action is required, don't hesitate and don't falter. Sic 'em.

[hymie zoltsveis]

One major correction:

Isreal did NOT "capture" the West Bank or Gaza in 1967 (nor did it later "capture" the Golan."

Judea and Samaria (do not call it the West Bank) have ALWAYS been a part of Jewish Israel---as well as the Golan.
IT WAS GIVEN TO US BY G-D ....THOUSANDS of years ago, AS WELL AS by the Legaue of Nations in the 1920's.

The muslims have tried to STEAL OUR LANDS for millenia. No one ever complains about the League Of Nations' granting the Eastern Half of the British Mandate to (Trans)Jordan in he 1920's---AS AN arab HOMELAND.

It is the muslims who have NO RIGHT in our homeland.

If these vermin want to live with other muslims---LEAVE OUR HOMELAND, and go to one of the 20+ arab muslim lands.

ISRAEL IS OURS.

muslims---get the Hell OUT of our land now!

[aprilnovember811]

It's heartbreaking to see the treatment this evil man is giving Israel. God forgive me, but I wish the worst evil on this man Obama. He sends chills up my spine.

hymie zoltsveis and henrik,

Henrik I was sure to report your ass to the cia website. Good luck. And hymie zoltsveis, you know the FBI is basically on your ass now? Again, good luck dumbasses.

[Jonah]

I have no idea what the preceding message is about.

I generally agree with Hymie. But I must point out that the Palestinian Arab state already exists. It's called Jordan.
If we allow a new Arab state in these historically Jewish lands, that state would be a monster more horrible than anything we have ever seen before on this Earth. Maybe we should call it Frankenstein-istan.

The Arab powers created these so-called Palestinian people for the sole purpose of exploiting their eternal victimhood. Palestinian people will turn against their creators at some point. Like the PLO did in Jordan before Black September.

I don't know why Western people fall for this propaganda. At this point everyone the enemies of Israel are the enemies of humanity.

[jj]

friends:

think for a moment.--

"unilateral" movements from palestinians will beget "unilateral" movements from outside the peace process, or so says benjamin netanyahu.

consider for a moment net&n's thinking in all this.

what net&n means by all of this, is that if the palestinians declare an independent state, and if it is recognized by the oic &/or the u.n., then it means war. the immediate consequence of palestine receiving recognition from the largest international bodies in the world, and the assertion of statehood, is that the palestinians will move to expel the israeli citizens and other jews who have settled in the west bank. it seems to me that this alone would engender tactical engagement between israeli and arab/muslim forces, perhaps limited to arab paramilitary groups versus the i.d.f.

the longer and more serious consequence of palestinian "government" on the west bank (to state the concept is to utter a joke) is that other arab entities will seek to arm it w/ strategic military forces, perhaps seeking agreements for bases and the like.

one of the reasons that israel exists, paradoxically enough, is that it is so isolated in a strategic sense from ground attack in force. the syrians have to come down through limited approaches, and then have to be able to muscle the golan and sheba farms ever to mount tank and armor assault on israel. this they have never proven capable of doing. the egyptians have to come over the desert, and they have never had the ability to do that. and, the jordanians, have to marshal up on open ground and then press across the river into the west bank area.

were a military force able to use a "palestinian state" as a marshalling force for conventional armor and tank forces, staging in bases leased from "palestine," this would present a formidable strategic threat to israel, and probably would present a very legitimate threat to her destruction. just consider heavy artillery fire, let alone tanks and other armor, from the west bank directed into israel.

she would be presented with military assault the likes of which would probably be irresistable.

israel could not allow that sort of strategic risk to obtain.

she would have to simply pre-emptively strike an independent palestine to prevent that from happening.

and occupy.

and, here we are again.

another war. and another stalement. and, other peace process.

this goes around in circles forever. this negotiation bullshit.

the only solution to this, is for israel to expel the arabs from israel proper, whether or not they are israeli citizens, and for israel to eject the "palestinians" from the west bank, and to assume a state of permanent hostilities between israel and her arab/islamic neighbors as the cost of existence.

there can be no peace, either with a palestine as a "unilaterally" established state, or with a palestine as a "negotiated state" the result of "peace process." either way spells out the same result, the same reaction from israel to preserve herself, and a return to this precise position, with israel policing the west bank to hold terrorism and political unrest to "acceptable levels."

sunday:

my name is:

john jay
milton freewater, oregon usa

p.s. the day f.b.i./c.i.a. agents try to stop me from expressing my views, will be a lively day indeed. i will keep the porch light on. oh, yes, the middle name is joseph. for anyone who is keeping track.

[jj]

choi:

it will never end.

john jay
milton freewater, oregon usa

[slice]

Good points as usual, JJ. Long time, no read, no post. It does appear like it will go on forever. Here in Israel, the same arguments recycle. Bibi, though not Olmert, appears very interested both in his image around the world and in appearing the moderate to Israelis.

In terms of the 'unilateral declaration', I don't think they will get far with this. The Israeli gov't did threaten them with an end to Oslo and annexation of some territories should they go through with this.

hey, and I thought that Abbas resigned. :)

Meanwhile, former DM Mofaz wants to talk to Hamas and a majority of Israelis seem to agree with this. It is all very strange.

[twitter.com/rzimzim]

Sorry H.Z. Judea is for the Jews but Samaria has and always will be the eternal home of the Samaritans.