While the media turns itself inside out struggling to find a motive for Major Muslim's jihad, go to this interview on, of all places, NPR,
Listen to a psychiatrist’s recollection of a lecture Hasan gave (a “grand round” is the term for it) when he was a medical resident at Walter Reed. “It freaked them out.” Normally, a lecturer focuses on a particular disease or disorder and recent research or treatment options. Instead, Hasan reportedly harangued the doctors and staff about what the Quran taught about non-believers going to hell, being scalded, beheaded, etc. A Muslim psychiatrist in the audience reportedly challenged him about his interpretation of the Quran, but he would not back down (because he was right). Another version of the story I heard quoted a source as saying that several in the audience suggested afterward that Hasan might be a shooter someday.
Forward the audio audio to 1:50 and listen through 3:05 to hear most relevant comments...This is EXPLOSIVE and it's NPR.
UPDATE: Last night, Grant transcribed and e-mailed about this NPR audio. Here is
the direct link to the MP3 file that contains the statement about
people wondering if Hasan would "freak out and shoot people
someday": This
URL still works...at the moment, at least.
Here's Grant's
transcription of pieces of the key part that starts a little after three
minutes in the audio file:
4:01 - "A couple years ago, two or three years ago, he gave a Grand Rounds presentation"
4:19 - "But instead of giving an academic paper, he gave a lecture on the Quran"
4:29 - "He talked about how if you're a nonbeliever, uh, the Quran says you should have your head cut off, you should have oil poured down your throats, you should be set on fire"
4:58 - "People actually talked in the hallway afterwards about, 'Is he, uh, one of these people who's gonna freak out and shoot people someday?' It was half kidding, but half serious, he said."
They knew. And they know of others. And they will do nothing. If anything, they will recruit more Muslims to show that this act of jihad has not "prejudiced" them in any way.
Like 911 was a major victory for Islam in this country -- ie CAIR is on FOX to discuss the jihad at Fort Hood but not Spencer, Bostom, or myself not to mention the teutonic societal changes, mosqueing the workplace, shariah finance, shariah, law, a muhammadan president -- Fort Hood will escalate the islamisation of the military.
The Fort Hood terrorist is being portrayed as an "anomaly," an "aberration," a "lone wolf." Sadly, he's just one of many examples of jihadist traitors in the ranks of the military.
Together they form a dangerous Fifth Column, and the Pentagon — thanks to institutionalized political correctness — is doing next to nothing to root them out .
Instead, brass are actively recruiting Muslim soldiers — whose ranks have swelled to more than 15,000 — and catering to their faith by erecting mosques even at Marine headquarters in Quantico, Va. More, they're hiring Muslim chaplains endorsed by radical Islamic front groups, who convert and radicalize soldiers.
In the wake of the worst domestic military-base massacre in U.S. history, this is an outrage to say the least. And the PC blinders explain how Fort Hood commanders could have failed so horrifically in protecting their force from the internal threat there.
The terrorist suspect, an Islamic fanatic, penetrated deep into the Army's officer corps before gunning down, execution-style, more than 40 of his fellow soldiers. Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan allegedly killed 13 at the Texas post, which boasts some 40 Muslims.
Witnesses say he shouted "Allahu Akbar" — Allah is great! — before opening fire in a crowded building where troops were sitting ducks, waiting to deploy to Iraq and Afghanistan, both wars that Hasan angrily opposed. "Muslims should stand up and fight the aggressor," he reportedly said earlier this year, referring to the U.S. — the country he swore to protect.
During the invasion of Iraq in March 2003, another devout Muslim in the Army had a similar conflict. Sgt. Hasan Akbar also resorted to violence, fragging 17 fellow soldiers, killing two. Why? He opposed the killing of fellow Muslims. "You guys are coming into our countries, and you're going to rape our women and kill our children," he was overheard by soldiers who survived the grenade attack as saying.
Clearly, his loyalties lay elsewhere. And he's hardly alone:
• Navy Signalman Hassan Abujihaad last year was convicted of tipping off al-Qaida to battle group movements in the Persian Gulf, including disclosing classified documents detailing the group's vulnerability to terror attack.
• Army reservist Jeffrey Battle in 2003 pleaded guilty to conspiring to wage war against the U.S., confessing he enlisted "to receive military training to use against America."
• Army reservist Semi Osman in 2002 was arrested for providing material support to al-Qaida and pleaded guilty to weapons charges after agreeing to testify against other terror suspects.
• Marine Abdul Raheem al-Arshad Ali trained at a suspected al-Qaida camp and was charged with selling a semi-automatic handgun to Osman.
• Army Sgt. Ali Mohamed trained Green Berets at Fort Bragg's elite special warfare school before stealing military secrets for al-Qaida and helping plan bombings at three U.S. embassies in 1998.
• Army Spec. Ryan Anderson in 2004 was convicted of leaking military intelligence to al-Qaida terrorists, including sensitive information about the vulnerabilities of armored Humvees.
• Army sniper John Muhammad was put on death row after fatally shooting 10 in the nation's capital a year after 9/11.
UPDATE: Here's the whole NPR broacast. Much thanks to Diane for the full transcript:
Interviewer: So authorities have answered one question, they believe it was a single gunman. In a way that only deepens the mystery of Major Nadal Malik Hasan. We’ve been learning more about it this morning. First from NPR’s Tom Gelton, who’s been covering the . .
Good morning, Tom (T: good morning)
Interviewer: who is he?
Tom Gelton: Nadal Hasan was born here in the Washington D.C. area of Arlington. His parents were palestinian immigrants, it seems. He went to local schools, graduated from VA Tech, joined the Army, spent basically his whole adult life in the Army, that’s where he received his medical education. He was trained as a psychiatrist by the Army and served for several years at Walter Reed Army Medical Center, ironically specializing in the treatment of combat stress. He transferred to Ft. Hood earlier this year. He was soon to be deployed, apparently to Afghanistan. We’ve heard from various sources that that uh bothered him for whatever reason, that he was a devout muslim. He took his faith very seriously. We can’t say of course that that was relevant here.
Interviewer: So. Soon to be deployed, and you mentioned that he also spent a lot of time at Walter Reed. I want to bring another voice into the conversation here: NPR’s Daniels Wordling has covered post-traumatic stress disorder over the years, and has also spent a lot of time with people at Walter Reed. (good mornings) I understand you’ve spoke to someone who knew him, who worked with him at Walter Reed.
Daniels Wordling: Earlier today I spoke with a psychiatrist who worked very closely with Hasan, and knows him very well. And he said from the beginning, and Hasan was there for four years, the medical staff was very worried about this guy. He said, the first thing is: He’s cold. Unfriendly (at least that’s how he came off). He did not do a good job as a psychiatrist in training; he was repeatedly warned, You better shape up or you’re gonna be in trouble. Did badly in his classes, seemed disinterested. But, second of all and this is perhaps more relevant, the psychiatrist says that he was very proud and upfront about being muslim; and this psychiatrist said nobody minded that. But he seemed almost belligerent about being muslim. And he gave a lecture one day that really freaked a lot of doctors out. They have grand rounds, you know they have dozens of medical staff come into an auditorium and somebody stands at a podium at the front and gives a lecture about some academic issue. You know, what drugs to prescribe for what condition. But, instead of that he—Hasan—apparently gave a long lecture on the koran. And talked about how if you don’t believe you are condemned to Hell. Your head is cut off; your on fire, burning oil is poured down your throat. And I said to the psychiatrist that this could be just a very interesting informational session. Where he was just educatiing everybody about the koran. But he said what disturbed everybody was that Hasan seemed to believe these things. And actually a muslim in the audience, actually a psychiatrist, raised his hand and said Excuse me. I’m a muslim and I do not believe these things in the koran. And then I don’t believe what you say the koran says. And Hasan didn’t just say Well I’m just giving you one view. He basically just stared the guy down.
Interviewer: We have a picture of a man, then, who at Walter Reed Army Center was disliked by his colleagues—or maybe the word is disturbed—(and disliked is also a relevant word)
Daniels Wordling: The psychiatrist this morning said people generally considered him a blank-bag, you know this is what they say.
Interviewer: He is sent to Ft. Hood, TX, and he knows he is at the point, as the shooting allegedly begins, of which he is accused, that he is about to be deployed to Afghanistan. Now Tom, you’ve been looking into some of the stresses of military personnel of being sent overseas.
Tom Gelton: That’s right, Steve. You know you refer to post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), there almost seems to be a phenomenon that could be called a Pre-traumatic stress disorder. There’ve been a lot of suicides in the Army; many more as a result of these wars than in previous years. Interestingly enough, as many soldiers have killed themselves before they were due to be deployed as after; 35 percent of the suicides are pre-deployment; 35 percent are post-deployment. So there seems to be an issue here of expectation of what you are getting into. And the fact that Major Hasan would have known better than others even, about how traumatic combat experience would be. You know, raises the question of, you know, was he an example of these soldiers who are literally freaked out by what they are likely to face when they are deployed.
Interviewer: And it’s hard to miss the location of this shooting. A processing center for people being sent overseas.
Daniels Wordling. . .
Daniels Wordling: I want to add something else about Hasan. The psychiatrist I talked to today said he was the kind of guy who the staff actually stood around in the hallway saying “Do you think he’s a terrorist?” “Or is he just weird?” And now apparently Walter Reed is in a lockdown mode. Where they—all the staff’s been instructed Do not talk to anybody about this investigation. Except military people. Do not talk to the FBI. Because they’re afraid potentially—what if people decide—investigating this—that people missed potential warning signs about this guy. This is just all speculation.
Interviewer: How can they NOT talk to the FBI?
Daniels Wordling: Well, our colleague Dina Temple Raston (?) has heard that from the FBI, and this military officer is telling me the same thing from Walter Reed.
Interviewer: Okay. NPR’s Dan Wordling and Tom Gelton Thank you. (thank yous) And we want to mention this is a moment that may be distressing for some listeners because we hear so much about the suspect and so little about the victims. That is a factor of what we know now. The military is saying very little about the victims so far except that there are 13 dead—12 military, 1 civilian. But it is very early and we expect to learn more and bring you more in the coming hours. And days.










Wasn't there also a chaplain at Gitmo who was passing intelligence, I think his last name was Oh?
Posted by: JCL154 | Saturday, November 07, 2009 at 11:05 AM
I pray for anyone that this bastard had counseled while a physician. Nightmare...
How about some levity for all who visit Pamela? Here is one that makes my heart sing. Bear 3; Terrorists 0
Bear scores against the Taliban...actual BBC story.
Posted by: mcnorman | Saturday, November 07, 2009 at 11:34 AM
Sorry, the link does not work. Here is the post: http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com/2009/11/07/bear-3-terrorists-0/
Posted by: mcnorman | Saturday, November 07, 2009 at 11:47 AM
Its really really suspicious that this guy told everybody at work about hid muslim feelings yet every family member on TV is shocked and never heard him say anything. I could be wrong but i think those family members are lying. So far not 1 family member expected this yet we have an arms length amount of people he worked with that heard him say this stuff.
Posted by: FredM | Saturday, November 07, 2009 at 12:59 PM
Based on the evidence thats coming out about Hasan the army should investigated this guy long ago.Either the army was asleep at the wheel or
they knew about Hasan's beliefs and potential but poltical correctness
stop them from taking action. In any case it if this could happen to the army
then it could happen anywhere.It is likely to happen again unless this government takes action quickly.
Posted by: Xavier | Saturday, November 07, 2009 at 07:53 PM
I hope, for the sake of all of us, that the families of those killed and wounded at Fort Hood sue the HELL out of the government entities responsible for the non-discharge, and indeed the promotion, of this criminally insane man. Political correctness is LITERALLY killing us.
Yesterday, our troops overseas.
Today, our troops right here at home.
Tomorrow, our schoolchildren?
Muslims give infidels the ultimatum: convert or die.
Well, we should give THEM an ultimatum: renounce your woman-hating, Jew-hating death cult---or get the hell out of the United States of America!
Posted by: Kathy from Kansas | Sunday, November 08, 2009 at 01:50 AM
Thanks for the transcript. But, for the record, the name of the NPR correspondent is Daniel Zwerdling (not Daniels Wordling).
www.colony14.net
Posted by: twitter.com/Colony14 | Sunday, November 08, 2009 at 01:46 PM
(my apologies to NPR. they do not always "spew crap" or politically correct horse-hockey. the regular media seems to have outdone them many times over. wouldn't it be ironic if NPR showed some leadership in countering this chorus of excuse makers and betrayers? though i won't hold my breath.)
Posted by: WIde11 | Sunday, November 08, 2009 at 04:19 PM