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culturist

Great article! I like the points about the need for a second American revolution. I agree that the Republicans are the only ones who can realistically lead it. I disagree, however, with his analysis of the tea party movement.

Being against government spending is a really direct issue that actually encapsulates the "clearly understandable and positive focus" he wants. The climate change legislation can, for example, be challenged based on the taxes it requires. Fiscal responsibility is huge and understandable.

I guess he wants us to include a protest of the vapidity of media, ala his Michael Jackson complaint. I suppose he wants us to denounce adulterous Senators (that would hurt Republicans). If there is an underlying moral message, that seems to me to be diffuse.

I like the tea parties as they are. GOOOooOOO TEAM !!

sweetness and light

Read George Washington's Farewell address....he warned that if parties existed, we would lose our country because the politiians would divide us. The Tea Parties are all about that...the republicants cannot and never will lead a second American Revolution because they are just that: they are a party. They do not represent the will of the people, but their own once they are in "power"; they have waaaayyy too much to gain by being in office.

What it takes to get nominated by the republicants is nothing less than a lay-down of your conscience just as it is so with the demnocraps. It is the system of two party rule that got us here.

We will have a second revolution but it will be against the status quo. Try reading GOOOH.com for a start, and then decide to ruin for office yourself. I personally will vote for anyone who is not a lawyer, never has been a lawyer and has been going to the Tea Parties. That's plenty easy to prove. Go get a petition and start the process and quit bitcchin.

mgoldberg

Fine article, by Quincy on Quantum Weirdness. I used to get my subscription to Skeptical Inquirer but it's anti religion, which is just as boring and it was when it was the reverse 500 yrs ago. For me, I like to read those who point out the same weirdness has been calculated in for several thousands of years, and if you think I'm exaggerating, check out some good articles by Dr Gerald Schroeder, MIT nuclear physicist and religious jew, who's articles and audio downloads are worth taking a look and listen too. Here's his artilce on existence at-http://www.geraldschroeder.com/existence.aspx. His site has a bunch more of his articles, as well as audio files, which are wonderfully surprising.

moderationist

Non cultural warfare issues like taxes and constitutional issues will doom the Rep Party, this guy doesn't get gut based cultural warfare

Mongol in the Mountains

sweetness and light :

Couldn't agree with you more. I would like to see more non-lawyers in charge so maybe our votes would actually be counted.

Greedy lawyers (professional liars) blinded by money and yoked to corruption. They don't give a shit about the People.
Is that true, you ask? "It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is. " (willieboy clinton)

Mongol in the Mountains

"the Universe is not only queerer than we suppose, but queerer than we can suppose."

My electronics professor used to talk about computer malfunctions that had no obvious cause; he explained it like this: positive electrons are attracted to negative electrons, and negative electrons are attracted to positive electrons, and everything will work right as long as that law of electricity is followed in an atomic environment. It is when you get the occasional "queertrons" that seem to be unnaturally attracted to electrons of the same charge (positive or negative) that things really start to get screwed up and strange malfunctions occur.

Also sounds a bit like the chaos theory where things get moving faster and faster just before an explosion or just before the downfall of an empire.

When the shiite hits the fan and everybody is through wiping their faces, maybe then they will see the importance of "Change" of government -- if it's not too late by then.

Right Wing Extremist against left wing socialist pussies.

Mongol in the Mountains

Correction:

positive protons attract negative electrons. Electrons are negative (unless they are queertrons).

David R. Graham

Concur in the spirit of things, however, my understanding (unprofessional) is that quantum mechanics is a fact of life and not one to be escaped. By analogy, one would expect that quantum weirdness is as well.

Better therefore to cope -- not the same as manage -- with both quantum mechanics or quantum weirdness than try, forlornly, to escape either. Even suicide would participate in both, which is why the Classical Skeptics, in their radical honesty, eschewed it.

Our US Constitution is a fine instrument for coping with life without presuming to manage much less escape it, both of which are impossible.

These collectivists' presumption of escaping life in order to manage life is what is giving everyone fits -- including them -- because the presumption is doubly false. Pretty soon we are going to observe the White House order its minions to approach the sea and lash it for disobedience, figuratively speaking. King of the World my foot.

The Mercer Island, WA 04JUL09 Tea Party was a lovely event, probably 4-500 people, very hot weather, well-organized, nicely led, fine mixed crowd, and the emphasis was on constitutionalism. So Mr. Wheeler should be pleased with that one at least.

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