July 4, 2009: CAIR/ISNA THUGGERY VS. LIFE, LIBERTY AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS

There are two Americas indeed. One for beleaguered, put-upon patriots under siege for their love of country, the Constitution, freedom of speech, and individual rights. The other is the "special class" that oppresses and subjugates us on a daily basis. Individualism vs collectivism. Islamic supremacism vs democracy.

Today was the kick-off of  the Islamic Society of North America conference in Washington DC. The timing could not be more deliberate. Sort of like the North Koreans firing missiles on the Fourth of July. ISNA is as compatible with American values and freedoms as sharia is compatible with democracy.

As you read the following account, bear in mind that Obama's Department of Justice and the FBI had teamed with these groups.

Dave Gaubatz attended the ISNA conference (or at least attempted to); what follows is his  experience. Dave Gaubatz was the first U.S. civilian (1811) Federal Agent deployed to Iraq in 2003. He is the owner of DG Counter-terrorism Publishing. He is currently conducting a 50 State Counter-terrorism Research Tour (CTRT). He can be contacted at davegaubatz@gmail.com.

Here is what Dave wrote:

Quick synopsis, of course more coming out later tonight/tomorrow:

1. Went to ISNA/DC to check in. I had prepaid $100.00 fee and had my registration.

2. It was apparent I was 'flagged'.

3. 8 or 9 ISNA and other men surround me.

4. They refused to tell me who they are or why they want me to leave.

5. One then said, "CAIR wants you out."

6. They began crowding me. I was professional and told them to step away from me, tell me who they are, and why was I being illegally detained.

7. I told them this could have been avoided if ISNA would have emailed me a cancellation. I told them I want my $100.00 back. Meanwhile I was asking them some tough questions they could not answer.

8. Then the group led me out of the convention; still no names of who they were.

9. I was on the street and noticed at least 3 DC patrol cars. I took pictures. Then I started walking toward my parked car. One patrol car was following me slowly. I stopped took a few pictures of him. Then walked to my car.

10. I got in my car. Three Patrol cars surrounded me and surrounded my vehicle. I was told to get out.

11. I asked what was the problem. Finally one officer showed me a picture CAIR had given them and told them I was a threat. It had four pictures. 3 were with me in Iraq with my M-16 and 9mm, and two I was holding AK-47s in Iraq. CAIR had photocopied the picture of me helping a sick iraqi child from the picture. Then CAIR had cropped my head shot onto a Nazi uniform (which was obvious).

12. The lead cop said this is all CAIR had given them. I told them about the pictures, my background in Iraq, and who I was. They knew nothing of this.

13. CAIR and ISNA had essentially tried to get me killed. The officer said they just had the holocaust shooting. CAIR intentionally misled the officers to make them believe I was just someone who carries guns. CAIR failed to tell them these were pictures from Iraq when I was serving my country.

Bit frustrated right now and hope we can get American people to respond legally or more and more of this will happen to innocent Americans.

What happened to Mr. Gaubatz is an outrage.  Bear in mind this is America, and these very same Islamists invoke our freedoms to kill our freedom. They invoke freedom of speech to kill freedom of speech. They use lawfare and litigation jihad to silence truth tellers. Dave will be writing a full recounting of today's events, but look at his report thus far.

It's pretty clear CAIR/ISNA tried to have this man killed or arrested. Expose Islam and risk your life. CAIR/ISNA distributing photos of "threats" to the police is like the Nazis distributing photos of Jews. They are this century's Nazis. Shouldn't law enforcement know who the good guys are?

This is America? They set up Gaubatz. They know who he is. Clearly, CAIR and ISNA were hoping for a larger incident.

Gaubatz was surrounded by nine people who had no identification (they were just wearing suits) when he attempted to register. He asked who they were. Only one of the nine spoke to him; the others just glared.  The one who did speak to him asked if he could come with them. He repeatedly asked who they were, because he was not going to go with a group of nine men unless he knew who they were. The individual who was speaking to him refused to identify himself. He asked for a manager, again, because he was not going to walk away with a group of people that he did not know. The only answer he received was, "our parent organization said you were a threat". He was surrounded for just under a half hour. Finally, one individual, who identified himself as being with the convention center, spoke to Gaubatz. When Gaubatz asked why he was being asked to leave, he stated repeatedly, "I don't know why"..."They just said you didn't register"..."I really don't know". 

They did not say why he was on their list, but if you read the Frontpage magazine article about the Cease and Desist letter, this is exactly why he was on the list. His main point for legal recourse is that all of this could have been avoided if ISNA had called or sent an email asking him not to be there. Clearly this was done intentionally, with the hopes that DC police would respond to their false claim of threats and the picture of Gaubatz's war photos and picture of him photoshopped in a Nazi uniform.

Here is an excerpt from the Frontpage article:

CAIR has actually just sent me a letter from the law firm of Martin F. McMahon & Associates pertaining to my upcoming attendance at the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA) conference to be held in Washington , during the 4^th of July holiday.

FP: What did the letter say?

Gaubatz: First let me emphasize what I have said for several years:

[1] It is my professional opinion that CAIR and its executives are terrorist supporters and their ‘non profit’ and IRS endorsed organization should have never been allowed to open almost 15 years ago.

[2] It is also my professional opinion that anyone or organization supporting CAIR or its ideology supports terrorism and are a national security threat to our country.

[3] A different acronym used does not change the ideology. CAIR is ISNA, ISNA is MSA, and MSA is MANA (Imam Siraj Wahhaj). These are different people representing the same ideology of an Islamic Ummah (Nation) under Sharia law.

[4] Many of our law enforcement executives of various agencies have lost sight of who they work for. They do not work for Saudi financed CAIR or ISNA, they work for America and its citizens

Gaubatz: The letter is a notice for me to cease and desist from contacting CAIR and its reps both at the ISNA convention and anytime afterwards.

Read the whole thing here. Very informative on the intimidation tactics of CAIR/ISNA.

Gaubatz is making his statement and filing charges tomorrow. He did feel threatened because of being surrounded, and felt like he could not safely leave the area. DC police will decide, based on his statement, which charge is appropriate. 

When Gaubatz was leaving the convention, there were two police cars out front. Two officers behind him (he did not see them at any time) subsequently got in one of the cars and tailed him to his car (which was parked across the street). He got into his vehicle, and then an officer approached and asked him to step out of the vehicle. The officer said, "You know why we're asking you to get out of the vehicle", to which Gaubatz replied, "No I don't".  To which the officer said, "Well, we've got this picture. Can you tell me about all these guns" (referencing a picture of Gaubatz serving in Iraq with M-16, and 9mm military issue).  Gaubatz then told him that they were pictures of him in the war for this country. Gaubatz then told him that the picture of him in a Nazi uniform was obviously a photoshop. The officer then stated, "You understand with the holocaust shooting...". They asked if they could search his trunk. He stated, No, I have been harassed enough, if you want to get a warrant, I'll wait all day. The officer exchanged cards with him. The officers were just doing their jobs, because they had been duped into following up this lead based on faulty intel.

 

The main point of concern here is that CAIR/ISNA gave misleading information to law enforcement that put Gaubatz's life in jeopardy. At any time when he was leaving, if had reached into his bag, the police, acting on faulty information from CAIR/ISNA, would have assumed he was a threat and drawn on him, or worse (like the officer said, considering the Holocaust shooting). CAIR/ISNA purposely used the Nazi uniform photo to get this effect from law enforcement. CAIR/ISNA did not inform law enforcement that these pictures were of him serving in the war (with the guns), and the police must have believed he was a threat based on this information. They wanted the incident to escalate; otherwise they would have just sent him an email and a refund online requesting that he not attend.

Here is a copy of Dave's confirmation and registration for ISNA.

Obama's administration is partnering with these enemies of freedom: Patrick Poole has a scathing indictment of Eric Holder's Department of Justice and ISNA.

Here is an  account of a pro-freedom rally across the street from the conference:

July 4, 2009 - Independence Day: Defending Equality And Liberty at DC ISNA Conference

On July 4, Responsible for Equality And Liberty (R.E.A.L.) members stood outside of the DC Convention Center in the Mt. Vernon Square across the street to challenge the Washington DC ISNA convention on the issue of Islamic supremacism.  Per our previous article announcing this protest, we explained why we felt it was necessary to challenge ISNA on this Independence Day - where R.E.A.L. is calling for independence not just for America, but for the rest of humanity from supremacist and totalitarian ideologies.  On this Independence Day, we are also calling for independence from those oppressed by Islamic supremacists as well.

At today’s protest, we stated that as Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. recognized the ideological challenge of “white supremacism,” so we too today recognize the ideological challenge of “Islamic supremacism.”   While we realize that such a challenge is not popular with some, we feel that if we are true to courage of convictions on human equality, that on July 4, as on every other day, we must defy such supremacist ideologies.

One of R.E.A.L.'s signs at the July 4 DC Rally for Equality And Liberty

We challenged ISNA to address the universal human right of EQUALITY, including equality of women, homosexuals, non-Muslims, and different Muslim sects.  We challenged ISNA that without equality, we have no life, liberty, or the pursuit of happiness.  We challenged Americans to remember, especially on July 4, that in our Declaration of Independence we view human equality as “a truth that we hold self-evident.”  Equality is the foundation to all of our other universal human rights.

We asked ISNA this question:  “when will you condemn Islamic supremacism?”

Responsible for Equality And Liberty at ISNA Conference - July 4, 2009

We asked ISNA - “when will you start addressing the stonings and honor killings of women and homosexuals by Islamic supremacists around the world?”   We asked ISNA - “when will you acknowledge the use of Sharia in the deaths, mutilations, and amputations of women, non-Muslims, and Muslims around the world?”   We spent two hours going over specific examples of the repression, torture, mutilations, stoning, honor killings, and murders of women, other Muslims, non-Muslims, homosexuals and others who Islamic surpremacists have viewed as a threat.   We stated that on this Independence Day, we must speak for those suffering from oppression from Islamic supremacism around the world.

We explained that our universal human rights are not dependent on any religion, and we explained our universal human rights must be consistent for all people around the world.  Some ISNA convention goers stated to us that universal human rights don’t matter to them; they stated that the only rights that matter to them where those based on their religion.  We challenge that supremacist view on “human rights,” both as Americans and as fellow human beings.  We declare that our universal human rights apply - no matter your religion, your gender, your race, or your identity - our universal human rights apply to every human being.

We also announced our ORANGE RIBBON campaign for equality and liberty, and provided handouts to those going to the ISNA convention to educate them on their universal human rights and our campaign to defend such rights.   We have chosen ORANGE as our symbol for universal human rights that apply to all our fellow human beings on Earth.

Orange Ribbon for Universal Human Rights - Responsible for Equality And Liberty (R.E.A.L.)

Several individuals going to the ISNA conference did not like what we had to say.  Those individuals sought to shout us down.  However, the Washington DC Metropolitan Police Department stepped in to defend our right to freedom of speech.

Several individuals going to the ISNA conference did not like what we had to say.  Those individuals sought to shout us down.  However, the Washington DC Metropolitan Police Department stepped in to defend our right to freedom of speech.

July 4 - DC - Some ISNA Conference Members Don't Like R.E.A.L.'s Challenge to Islamic Supremacism and Defense of Universal Human Rights

R.E.A.L.'s Jeffrey Imm pauses while DC Police explain to ISNA conference go-ers about our right to free speech and organized protest

July 4 - R.E.A.L. Continues Its Message Challenging Islamic Supremacism and Defending Universal Human Rights

We also asked ISNA how it could have a theme of “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness,” when it not only ignored the foundation of EQUALITY that is the basis for all of our universal human rights, but also had speakers who have defended or been unwilling to challenge Islamic supremacism.

– Siraj Wahhaj was a character witness for convicted 1993 World Trade Center terrorist “blind sheik” Omar Rahman, has called for replacing the American government with a caliphate.  According to Siraj Wahhaj, “if only Muslims were clever politically, they could take over the United States and replace its constitutional govt. with a caliphate. If we were united and strong, he said, we would elect our own emir and give allegiance to him. Take my word if 8 million Muslims unite in America, the country will come to us.”

– Hamza Yusef (also spelled Hamza Yousuf or Hamza Yousef) has described Judaism as a “most racist religion,” and who promotes Jihad stating that Jihad is the duty and responsibility of all Muslims, further stating that “Jihad is actually considered a Rahma (mercy) in Islam.”  Yusef’s idea of “compromise” is that “There are times when you have to live like a sheep in order to live in the future like a lion.”

– Zaid Shakir has stated “Every Muslim who is honest would say, I would like to see America become a Muslim country”

– ISNA’s Ingrid Mattson has defended the idea of an Islamic supremacist caliphate, and has portrayed Christians as a threat to Jews.  On the idea of the Islamic supremacist caliphate, she has stated that “the overthrowing of the caliphate… was a plan of European powers for many years. This deprived the Muslim world of a stable and centralized authority, and much of the chaos that we’re living in today is the result of that.”  Ingrid Mattson also claims that “Muslim women have the same legal rights as Muslim men,” when we see daily how women are treated as second-class human beings by Islamic supremacists who seek the same “caliphate” that Ingrid Mattson defends.

On July 3, the ISNA conference also had Ihsan Bagby speak on “compelling history of Islam in the Americas and highlight the extraordinary contributions of Muslims to the American experience.”   But what has ISNA speaker Ihsan Bagby said about America?  According to Ihsan Bagby, “we [Muslims] can never be full citizens of this country… because there is no way we can be fully committed to the institutions and ideologies of this country.”

Read the rest here.

Previously at Atlas, and related:

FBI LEADERSHIP GUILTY OF CONSPIRING WITH ISLAMIC JIHAD: PARTNERS WITH ISNA

Department of State’s Criterion in Partnering with Jihadists in America

Ever since Obama took office, we have been scratching our heads trying to understand how and why he is reaching out to hardcore jihad-supporting Muslims. I documented the dangerous partnership of ISNA with the FBI. Patrick Poole has a scathing indictment of Eric Holder's Department of Justice and ISNA.  It's no accident, it's systemic. And it is sanctioned at the highest levels of government.

ISNA, CAIR, FBI AND Department of Justice Axis of  Jihad...

Comments

[Jane]

This is fricken unbelievable. Is this the United States of America?

Who the f do these people think they are?

Enough already with the bs. - impeach the imposter in the WH - and throw out his entire administration too.

America, as your next door neighbour - it's breaking my heart to see these things happen. Small comfort, but it's not any better up north. The Government requested the deportation of an Iranian immigrant, who has just been released from jail (having served time) for molesting children under the age of 18. The immigration judge refused to allow him to be deported because he was at risk of being executed. The judge admitted that the man was a serious danger to children under 18. In Canada, the lives of child molesters - especially immigrants from the Middle East are more important than our children.

Our authorities have lost their f'n minds. The entire west needs to clean house and throw out the trash.

David G. is a hero to me. The man has more courage in his baby finger than the majority of people. I admire and respect his efforts on behalf of your beautiful country.

Apologies for all the swearing but I'm really p'd off.

[CHOI]

ISNA has for at least 10 -15 years held their Annual "Conference" on American Holidays, when people are looking elsewhere with Holiday activities(until this year,Labor Day), out of the Limelight in the nation's Heartland and Transportation hub ,Chicago, or Specifically, The Chicago suburb of Rosemont's Convention Center which is very close to "Chicago- O'Hare International Airport"; the exception was last year,when they were in the Heartland City of Columbus,Ohio,the Ohio State Capitol and home of Ohio State University
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For ISNA to make this "In America's Faces" Move ,in Washington,on July 4th , signifies that they THINK THEY'RE WINNING.
The Treatment Dave G received there is similiar to what happened to a guy I know who a few years ago went to Check Them Out in Rosemont,Il and wound up in an Argument over Terrorist Abu Marzuk, who they wanted out of American Custody at that time.

[Crusty]

America was born on July 4 1776 and passed away on January 20 2009.

[Aussie News]

" Siraj Wahhaj was a character witness for convicted 1993 World Trade Center terrorist “blind sheik” Omar Rahman, has called for replacing the American government with a caliphate. According to Siraj Wahhaj, “if only Muslims were clever politically, they could take over the United States and replace its constitutional govt. with a caliphate. If we were united and strong, he said, we would elect our own emir and give allegiance to him. Take my word if 8 million Muslims unite in America, the country will come to us.”

Yes and within 3 months you would have the USA in the same condition as every other Godless Muslim shit hole on earth.

Islams fifth column of barbarous savages now have direct access to the ACORN "Community Organizer in Chief" I hate to say it but from now on nothing would surprise me as to what this Satanic triad could manifest upon the American people.

[Kenny Solomon]

I'm gonna take this one step further and if I cross any lines, so be it.

It is illegal for anyone to defend themselves within the boundaries of Washington DC. The 2nd Amendment does not exist there.

In fact, if you do defend yourself within Washington DC's boundaries, YOU are the criminal, not whoever harmed, attacked, robbed, or otherwise violated your Rights.

If sane people do not stand up IMMEDIATELY and take back this country NOW, we will not have a nation by the end of the year, if not gone before then.

Kenny Solomon
South Florida's madder-'n-hell typical, bitter, Jewish, God-clinging, gun owner and barking-mad insane NASCAR fan.

[Jane]

Kenney Solomon - Everyone understands and feels your pain, and anger. There's nothing wrong with your post - except for the last line which puts Pam and you at risk. You may want to ask to have it removed.

[Cyberray]

No Pam , you got that wrong! What happened to Mr. Gaubatz is not an outrage, get used to it and expect more of the same from the same people.
What happened to my parents when they were forcibly and illegally separated then stripped of all their wealth and put in a nursing home, now that's an outrage.

[ender]

wouldn't providing false and fraudulent information to the police fall in to the category of a crime?

Specially since that information was purposely being used in conjunction with an intimidation plan to raise the threat level and have an innocent person murdered by the police.

cair trying to be the victim once again by lying. They probably had a press conference all ready to go minutes after his arrest or shooting to whine to the media how they are being persecuted.

To hell with persecution let's get some prosecution so the media can drop the whole BS "unindicted conspirator" line when talking about nambla, er I mean cair. (both the same anyways)

[Mongol in the Mountains]

Think it would be easy to nail their asses with the doctored up photo they gave to the police. It is still a crime to lie to or mislead the police about any alleged crime. The cops have the evidence and they know who they got it (the pictures) from.

[mishgei]

Hey guys, I was thinking the same thing. I'm pretty sure that filing a false police report could be a misdemeanor or felony (I don't know if this would be the same thing). They don't mess around with that stuff, that's for for sure. As for the photos, couldn't he go after them for libel or something like that?

[DeeDee]

Being surrounded is like the good guys were at the Dearbornistan festival (only Gaubatz's situation far worse), and though its not officially islamic festival, there is a crescent on their logo. There's video out there a group of festival security thugs surrounded the good guys poking at them, touching their camera, and they lied to police. Who can stand these people

[shewolf]

HERE IS A COPY OF THE EMAIL I SENT TO SADDLEBACK CHURCH. EVERYONE MUST CONTACT RICK WARREN ON THIS. I ALSO COPIED DAVE GAUBATZ!

Dear Rev. Warren,

First of all, I wish to commend you on your efforts to reach out to the Muslim community here in the United States.

However, I am convinced that, despite your best efforts and the best efforts of others, that this will prove to be an exercise in futility. It is admirable to reach out and attempt to find common ground with others, but at the same time you must recognize who and what you are dealing with.

I refer you to the following post on Atlas Shrugs (also available on WorldNetDaily.com) detailing the outrageous, dangerous and criminal behavior of your hosts at the ISNA in regards to Dave Gaubatz yesterday:

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/07/july-4-2009-isna-vs-life-liberty-and-the-pursuit-of-happiiness.html

It is clear that members of the ISNA, employing willful deceit,attempted to have Mr. Gaubatz killed by the DC police on the streets of our nation's capital on the 4th of July. You may find this incident shocking, but I am not surprised by this.

The Koran is their supreme law, Jihad is their way and deception is their tactic!

Your best intentions notwithstanding, I urge you to use your logic and your common sense and to recognize that the ISNA and all of their affiliated associations have nothing in common with those who value the freedoms which made and continue to make this country great.

Please! Do not continue to be deceived!

[Blue Collar Todd]

It makes me ill that Rick Warren addressed this conference and said he wants to work with Muslims around the world to do "good". Warren does not realize that Islam is playing a major role in the war and poverty he wants to eliminate, or that Muslims cut the heads off of Christians. Warren by finding this "common ground" ala Obama will help facilitate the persecution of Jews and Christians throughout the world.

[RISE_UP]

Why do you think Rick Warren has such a sudden interest in Muslims? He could have had that interest many years ago. Because another minister had such an interest, and that minister was Pat Robertson. The only difference is, Pat Robertson was warning people about Muslims and Islam. He gets it.
So, this leaves one thing and that is, Rick Warren is cozying up to the chief Muslim....Ozero. pure and simple.

[Rockmelon]

Yes, this is outrageous! When is the world going to understand that religion is only a very small part of Islam and that the "religious" part is relatively harmless.

Islam taken as an ideology and broken down into its basics equates to 10% religion, and 90% politics and culture. Obviously it is not the "religious" part of Islam that is threatening our nation. The INSA Conference concerns itself with the politics of Islam and as such would be considered inappropriate for attendence by a non-believer; particularly one like Gaubatz who is actively exposing Islam.

Next time, maybe we could enter a meeting of this kind en masse. Maybe 100 or more non-believers attempting to enter together would draw more attention to the inequity. I would gladly pay my $100 to back up Gaubatz.
Then all 100 of us could file a law suit, using our government as the same ammunition as Islam.

It's becoming very important that we expose the components of Islam so that the average person realizes that we are not objecting to the religion content of Islam but the political and cultural aspects. We need to educate America from the ground up. Too many of them think that we are attacking a religion and it goes against their apple pie and mom.

Thank you Dave Gaubatz for fighting for us! You have my complete and total respect and support.

[JewishOdysseus]

I wd humbly suggest that the most immediate priority is to throw as much FINANCIAL support behind Dr. Gaubatz as possible...I have just made a Paypal donation on his webpage, and I wd urge others to do the same!

Dr. Gaubatz is a great resource in our struggle, it is no coincidence that CAIR's terror-masters are targeting him for exactly this kind of "unfortunate accident."

This is a par excellence example of jihadist tactics in "dar al-Harb"--conspiracy, lie, menace, infiltration, and "plausible deniablity." Our own gracious hostess here needs to be on the lookout for such indirect attacks, too!

Send Dr. Gaubatz some money, people!

[pacm]

America as she was, has been under siege. It's coming from all directions, and radical Islam is taking root. Liberalism in all its BS is enabling this climate of oppression by various groups from the bottom up, and now from the top down. Truly patriotic citizens are being marginalized and targeted for speaking their beliefs, and standing on their constitutional rights. Obviously we cannot depend on most of our elected officials to do anything anymore. They haven't so far, and look at what it's all come to. We, as individuals will have to fight for our rights and freedom as best we can on our own, it seems.

[DeeDee]

I just now donated to Gaubatz and prepared snail mail for Warren urging him to educate himself. Yesterday I listened to Bill Warner's lectures on 'political islam' to reinforce what I have already learned. We need organization and action alerts much like ummah has been doing. They think we are stupid, for instance photoshopping nazi uniform is so ridiculous since its the same ideology. But they often do not think logically due to the dualistic nature of their thought training. Dualism is emphasized in Warner's lectures. Lack of logic and endless dishonesty should be the downfall and hopefully soon

[DeeDee]

Correction: I hope for the downfall to be soon but realistically I know it will take quite some time

[JewishOdysseus]

I have a funny feeling those CAIR/ISNA thugs won't be feeling funny very long.

A little bird told me...heheh.

[Sarastro]

Rick Warren is a NAZI. In a worship held in Anaheim Angels Sports Stadium in southern California on April 17, 2005, he compared the necessity of admiration of Jesus Christ with that of Hitler youth in 1939, where they said to Hitler in a Munich stadium: "We are yours". Warren wants people to follow HIM, so he prepared thousands of posters with the slogan "whatever it takes". 30,000 people in that stadium held up these posters in blind obedience. The impact and consequence of a prayer service where Hitler is seen as a kind of forerunner of the Saddleback Church is alarming.
Warren's way of praying in reminiscent of the German Catholic Youth Movement of the early 1920s. At that time, groups like "Bund Neudeutschland" created open air mass ceremonies to pray for Jesus Christ as their "leader". The Catholic invention of mass prayer in 1920s is part of their anti-inividualistic, anti-humanistic, and anti-Jewish ideology, A lot of these Catholics became Nazi party members from 1933 on.
Eight decades later, we now see a similar kind of public worship as Warren references Hitler and passionate Nazi Germans. Warren calls for "Radicals" in his 2005 prayer, because "moderate people get nothing done". Warren refers to Hitler positively because
1] Hitler was radical, and "only radicals change the world", 2] the Hitler created people of total obedience, and 3] the California prayer used messages such as "whatever it takes" and had 30,000 followers acting in blind obedience to display those posters. Blind obedience creates a climaye in which social conscience is silenced and where racism can thrive.
It is a scandal that Obama invited Warren to lead the inauguration prayer, as Warren wants his Christian followers to be like Hitler youth for Jesus.
[exerpted from Dr. Clemens Heni, Yale University, "Antisemitism and the Rise of a New World Order? Obama's Inauguration

[Sarastro]

the second point should be 2] the Hitler Youth

It's monstrous that both Hitler and Warren [both haters of Christianity] use it as a front to insinuate their egoistic, fascist ideologies into good people who wanted to be taught the evangelium and teachings of Jesus and thought they were coming to a pastor not a Nazi/Islamic/Communist [Warren also refers to Lenin and Mao] demigogue. Shades of James Jones.

[Aussie Bloke!]

Just look at France to see where all this will end up.
Over there they want their own laws to apply to muslim citizens and those who live in their Zones to be held to those same laws.

So much for intergration.

1st pass yourself off as hard done by,...
Then get yourself special status,...
Then inflict yourself on others,....

How many times has this happened around the world?
[b]Its time to stand up to this sort of thing and not allow yourselfs to be pushed around in your own home.[/b]

Aussie.

[al-Kidya]

Islam has a lot of power in the USA and I fear it is only going to get worse.
The UK is dominated, the Netherlands and most of Eurabia has succumbed and now they are concentrating on turning the US into sharia states.
It won't end until you elect a new government with a new president who will put a stop to immigration. The more Muslims you let in to the US the more power they will gain. Besides the fact that they breed like Lemmings.