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Every single muslim that does nothing is responsible to the TRUE God for these atrocities

The muslim attitude behind these atrocities sadly is - They obviously had it coming. They were smiling.

The Ayatolla has decreed "There is no happiness in islam". Therefore they must be mocking the prophet.

A sad barbaric backward belief that justifies murder in this way.

In November 2006, Rohina Abdul Ali was bludgeoned to death in her bed while lying next to her 4 year old daughter. Rohina was an Afghan refugee who had come to the US along with her mother, brother, and 4 year old daughter. At the time, I speculated that the motive, if ever revealed, would turn out to be an honor killing. I speculated that she had found that the US is much more free and decadent than her home country. Her mother was known to be "overly protective" according to reports. Last week, the mother was found guilty of Rohina's murder and was sentenced to 75 years in her death. But the motive has still not been made public. I stand by my prior speculation. This was an honor killing, and the Chronicle is hiding that fact.
http://redinktexas.blogspot.com/2009/04/guilty-of-murder-but-media-still-tap.html

Pam,

Thisis one of the most powerful post I have ever read at Atlas. Putting faces to this barbaric practice is quite moving.

Using "islam" and "honor" in the same sentence is oxymoronic...

Truly barbaric. Where are the women's groups in the world that should be screaming at the top of their lungs? Islam must be exposed by every outlet possible for what it does. Subjugate females and enable Muslim men to beat, torture and kill any female that does not obey their dictates. Time has come that all honest people come to grips with reality and speak out against these inhuman practices against women. Keep shouting Atlas. This horror must stop.

This is sickening, the story which struck me the most was Rojda from Turkey. I have seen these practices first hand. I was in Turkey in 1988 with the military, and a buddy of mine took me to a place they called simply "The Compound" apparently this was a brothel where women were taken to "work" off their husbands debts while they served a prison term. It sickened me then, and continues to do so, this is the peaceful progressive culture which our dear leader wants us to embrace. The leader for change wants us to openly embrace a culture which has violently fought change for 2000+ years. Maybe we can't impose a change in the middle east, but we sure as hell don't need to promote the spread of this "disease".

geo11,
The women groups are simply AFRAID of the barbarians.
The NOW-National Organization of Women, is simply terrified of standing up to the other NOW - Neanderthals Oppressing Women. They don't have the guts....PERIOD.
As for Madame SOS, Hillary Clinton could care less about women's rights. Even Gloria Steinem hasn't touched the subject.
And that group Code PINK hasn't come out against the barbarians which leads me to believe that they have turned Code Yellow.
OTOH, Pamela Geller has more guts then all of them combined.


The "relative" found dead with the daughters in the Kingston killings turns out to be the previous wife of the man charged with the murders along with his current wife and son.

All the womens groups in the world, all the government intervention will not stop these murders. As long as Islam exists, murder will be the way its done. It is a cult of submission or death, one or the other, no in between.

There is no where in the world, where Islam is dominant and where Sharia law is practiced that is a place one would want to live and raise a family. Problem is getting people to realize the evils of Islam, true Islam. The western people only see this "flowers and puppy dogs" version and assume that this is simply a case of people trying to observe their religion.

NO.

Islam is an entire political system, religion and way of life based around the Qur'an, which is based on the teachings of Mohammed, a con artist, murderer and pedophile. That is sure a nice basis for a "religion", isn't it?

It teaches submission and refusal means death.It thrives on fear, pain and murder. It does not coexist with other faiths. There are no options, no freedoms in Islam. It is a paradox unto itself. It is pure evil.

Sorry about the rant. I cannot stand these Muslim bastards.

Islam=a world where any respect for human life has all but entirely disappeared from human consciousness.

pamela:

a very moving post.

as asked above, where are the feminists?

where is their concern for the victims of these killings?

it is quite obvious, that they do not care of the fate of these women, and for the fates of others who will die horrible deaths at the hands of families and disaffected suitors.

as charles durning said to his idiot son in "oh, brother where art thou?", we gotta get us a constituency.

john jay

Pam,to give you another perspective the president of ALL Amercicans , that right not just Muslim Americans but all Americans has sounded off on this and made it clear that we must respect their reilgion, even if we disagree with it.
In the Muslim tradition honor is a very meaningful concept and women who disrepect their families,their religion stand to lose everything.
Feminist undertand that this is a very deeply seated tradtion and respect it, so does the media, so go bark another tree, these tradtions have been in effect thousands of years and they are not going to change just for you, and Obama understand that....
Just because western society tolerates loose and blasphemous women who dishonor their families doesn't mean muslim men have to.. If anything Sharia law is being used more and more as time goes on and people realize the the ease of speed of Sharia justice, it's bound to catch on in the UNited States just as it has in the UK and in other countries around the world....

As Pamela has so rightly stated at the beginning of this article, the apathy and indifference of the media, women’s groups and society in general is astounding.

While not trying to excuse Canada, in ignoring this travesty, it has been noticed and the more mainstream right of center media has begun to demand, that this be addressed. It takes a great deal for Canadians to get their dander up, but this latest dis-honor killing seems to be making the average citizen demand that there is change.

Having said this, after decades of fuzzy bunny Liberal’s in power in Canada, we have basically created a catch & release program for murderers. I sincerely hope that the maggots who think that they can deal with family matters in this manner are put into the general prison population.

One item that slips the notice of most of the North American media is that Canadian jails don’t have the ‘Nation of Islam’ gangs in our jails. I suspect that if they are let into the general population their stay will be terminal.

that was sincerely awful Pamela. this society has many victims. it isn't just the men who are creating a violence. the first part of killing the victimization cycle is to realize this. keep in mind how quiet women's groups are and then you realize the reason they are afraid to speak isn't just because they are afraid to confront religion, but rather because to speak out they would have to confront other women who are part of this and believe in their culture of submission. it is hard to fight an enemy when you can't find villains. you can point your blame on the man who committed the end violent act, but you lose if you don't look at the cultural cycle that got him to that point. if you demonize men then you fail to look at all the women who brainwashed him to get to that point. and while it is true that if these men were not killing for Islam, they might be killing for something else... but there is a bigger problem and that is if these men reject their religion then they embrace a secular culture that is very hostile to men. if you leave us guys no place to escape to then unfortunately the domestic abuse people have practically sealed the deal. sadly secular culture has not grown past the Gloria Steinem idea that everyone is the same. the feminists don't understand that they must create roles that allow difference in gender. if men trying to escape cultural intolerance are confronted with a huge paradox that doesn't work for them then they will just become another Darth Vadar.

my mother wrote a play that went around the country about "Domestic Violence", It was called, "Rule of Thumb" It went around the country and played for organizations. In the mid 90s I was invited with my family to see them do a version of the play at the Philip Morris building. The people at the event struck me as on edge. one of the women involved in the event was an NYPD officer who was very involved in these issues. I remember thinking out of place at the event and my own mother had written the play. my mother became very good friends with the police officer who spent her career in crises situations dealing with hostage situations involving domestic abuse cases. apparently my mother during a six month period had the police officer disappear and my mother said she felt guilty as if she had done something wrong and she wasn't sure what it was. apparently it wasn't that the police officer thought my mother had done anything wrong... on the contrary the police officer had shot herself to death in her very own domestic squabble. the people who are creating the alternatives need better guidelines then 70s feminism.

cyberray, that is why islam must be destroyed. Allah is Satan and Mohammed is a false prophet and you are all going to burn in hell. All decent humans should be happy to hasten that.

jj there is a place for those like you. You will find out how different things are here. We are getting sick of giving you and your kind a chance to develop into civilized people. Soon you will discover how those with your attitudes will be brought down and the women you victimize and use will be free. You are low as a worm to us until you become human. You will continue to suffer under your ignorance until you learn.

Christine

People do horrible things from the beginning of time. What pushes them towards it, is their contorted nature and ignorance.
Because crimes are committed in the western cultures, does not mean that there is anything in the message of Christ or in the pertinent religion to push towards it. If some catholic priests did rape children, it does not mean that Christianity as an ideology is the one to blame. Because 7 men raped a 16 year old girl in Canada and the others stood there watching and taking pictures and spread those in internet, we may not blame Christianity although some or all of them may be baptised. Nor can we say "Christian bastards!"
The same stands for Islam. How can one with a little bit of culture on world religions say that "a woman was raped and than forced to marry the raper acoording to muslim law" when rape is punished by death in Islam law and a girl may not be married without her consent (always accoording to the muslim law). People who do this, do it for their own contorted reasons and only because they profess to do it in the name of Islam does not make this an Islamic law.
Muslims do bomb and kill innocent people, but there is nothing and I repeat NOTHING in Islam that may justify it. On the contrary, there are laws that forbid it. Most of the people who have spoken above know nothing about the Sharia or Islam in general, but what has been served to them by ignorant Media.
There is nothing constructive in creating monster images about ideologies. Eastern and Western societies have their own deep problems and those are the ones to be addressed. Instead of inspiring people with hate we must try to understand and cure.

"Stupid that everyone in his case
Is praising his particular opinion!
If Islam means submission to God,
We all live and die in Islam."

Johan Wolfgang von Goethe
West-Oestlicher Diwan
(WA I, 6, 128)



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