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This is a bit more complicated than what it appears.

The arms sales reflect an older US policy started by Bush, ostensibly to eventually creating a match to Hezbollah within Lebanon by propping up the Lebanese army.

Turkey is merely following US directives and the US basically had a deal with Turkey to benefit from this transaction.
Even Russia has donated 10 Mig-29s to Lebanon, probably for different reasons, but also to compete within this new arms market.

Obama s line follows that of Bush except that the Democrats seem to believe where the real fault lines are when it comes to Hezbollah s power base. Bush made no such assumptions.

While the old administration clearly followed a factional approach to Lebanon, in line with Israeli tactics of the past, Obama s team sees an opening within the Shia community knowing that not all Shias follow Hezbollah.

The reality is hard to know.
Hezbollah will always play up its real power while Lebanese opposed to them play them down out of a sense of shame.
Needless to say there are non Shia supporters of Hezbollah and Shia opponents of Hezbollah as well.

The risk in this policy is what Rumsfeld aptly called a "Known unknown". Namely the real numbers behind the perception.

We simply do not know who stands where in Lebanon.
Statements and sides change daily.

Sometimes a politician makes public statements supporting Hezbollah only to be able to start his car the next morning while others weigh the power balance and tilt toward the stronger horse out of self preservation or preservation of their ethnic/religious group.

The Democrats' mouthpiece at the Guardian, Michael Tomansky, has a piece here basically illustrating how the Obama position is developed and on what data it is based on.
Even he sounds confused and somewhat sceptical of the observations.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/michaeltomasky/2009/mar/10/lebanon-syria-obama-democracy-middle-east

What we know for sure is that nobody really knows.

My personal experience with Lebanese people, of whom I met quite a few, suggests a complex state of play but still an overall desire of national independence especially vis a vis Iran. Syria is complicated because many Lebanese have dual citizenship and family ties with Syria as originally Lebanon was part of Syria. They own property in Syria which they don't want to loose, seeing it a diversification from an unstable home market.

But all Lebanese I knew, Sunni, Christian and even Shia seem to want to be independent. The problem is how they perceive that independence. Do they want to be independent of the West and the Saudis and follow the Iran line claiming Iran is too far to conquer them or vice versa.

This desire for independence is what the US has probably latched on to when deciding to arm the Lebanese army, knowing that arming someone opens a form of addiction of sorts requiring good relations for those arms to be repaired, serviced etc.
They concluded that more people supported the Cedar revolution than the one countering it. Very risky as at the end of the day, Lebanon is still in a civil war. A lower key one but a civil war none the less.

So now Obama, if this is a decision his gang made in deed, handing this over to Turkey seems like a more or less dangerous move as it may move that arms dependency away from the US toward Turkey. But unless we know exactly what systems Turkey is selling them, that is hard to judge.
If Obama is in deed behind this, than this is a heavy concession in exchange of what?

- I would like to know.

However this can also be a sub contract involving distribution of US armaments through a Turkish "dealer network" enhancing the Turkish -Nato - US alliance which was facing a Russo-Turkish Rapprochement which Russia initiated last Summer seeing the critical position of Turkey in ways of allowing Russian energy to flow to Europe and servicing Turkeys growing energy market. Russia needed to court Turkey as Turkey was the route for Georgian gas to by-pass Russia to the EU.

So what we could be seeing is really a play against Russia in securing armament markets knowing how aggressively Russia has moved to arm Syria and Iran.

In either case, these arms, including the 10 Migs do not mount a threat to Israel. Lebanon is ages behind Israel in terms of arms.
Hezbollah has arms deals with entities Lebanon does not. Iran, North Korea, Syria, Lebanese diaspora sympathizers with Neo Nazis and Venezuela are arming Hezbollah independently from the Lebanese Army.

Turkey has a Hezbollah problem at home also. There is Iranian encroachment within Turkey s Shia minority.

This is why the former Turkish Islamist PM s visit to Tehran of late is an ominous sign. Just what influence can Iran have over Turkey or what deal would the antisemites running Turkey may have with them.
These are the things requiring further investigation.

Rocketman

"The MiG29 Fulcrum fighters would be provided free to Lebanon under an agreement on military-technical assistance, the head of Russia’s defence cooperation service said. Mikhail Dmitryev said that the jets would come from Russia’s existing stock."

Go ahead ... Send 'em up!

LMAO

I'd pay good money to watch THAT air show - brief though it will BE!

(chuckle)

BTW ... Turkey CEASED being an "ally" of the U.S. when they refused to allow the 4th Inf. Div. to enter Iraq from the north and secure the border with Syria. There is a damn good reason why Euros will NEVER allow Turkey into the EU.

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