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www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/01/23/60minutes/main4749723_page3.shtml

Time Running Out For A Two-State Solution?
60 Minutes: Growing Number Of Israelis, Palestinians Say Two-State Solution
Is No Longer Possible

But one very important Israeli says she intends to move them out. She's
Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni, a candidate to become prime minister in
elections next month. She's also Israel's chief negotiator with the
Palestinians, and she told 60 Minutes peace is unthinkable with the settlers
where they are.

"Can you really imagine evacuating the tens of thousands of settlers who say
they will not leave?" Simon asked.

"It's not going to be easy. But this is the only solution," she replied.

"But you know that there are settlers who say, 'We will fight. We will not
leave. We will fight,'" Simon asked.

"So this is the responsibility of the government and police to stop them. As
simple as that. Israel is a state of law and order," Livni said.

I have a number of friends who cling to the belief that the only reliable news sources are printed newsapapers and network news agencies. Any information I may confront them with that is not sourced from these MSM is immediately discounted.

"Investors Business Daily? What's that? Some sort of blog? You just can't believe what you read on the internet." It's a shame that we as a nation are so pitifully benighted. It's why we have BHO as president in the first place.

And the liberal media blitz is working. I know lots of MSM-aholics who truly believe Israel is the aggressor. These folks are confident in their beliefs because they've been fed the liberal agenda. These are people who couldn't find Gaza or the West Bank on a map. They don't know that Palestine is a ancient Roman place name and that there is not truly a Palestinian people.
I feel that Israel should control the West Bank and retake Gaza. Let those Gazan and West Bank arabs who insist on self-identifying as "Palestinian" move to Jordan.

A couple of thoughts:

1) They are not settlers but Re-settelers of the land.
2) There is no "West Bank", it is Judea and Samaria. There never has been a nation there that called it the west bank.
3) Jordan controlled Judea and Samaria from 1948 to 1967. Why did they not rename it Palestine?
4) Egypt used to control Gaza, same thing, why did they not name it Palestine?

Maybe I'm just pi$$ing in the wind asking this but why don't these Jewish groups ban together and bring a lawsuit against Scott Pelley and CBS and every freaking news service and individual and company, whatever or whomever, for slandering Jews? Isn't that what CAIR does every day of the damn week? Isn't it time to ban together and give back before it's too late?

bob simon did the piece,not scott pelly.

here is cbs contact info:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/1998/07/08/60minutes/main13504.shtml

please note: if you call them, be courteous and 'very concerned'. when i called they were courteous to me. listened to all what i said about israel's self defense, hamas putting innocents with rockets, 'pali' fake identity, "pali" constant calling for death to jews and israel etc.

212-975-3247 cbs news

60m@cbsnews.com

This is probably the worse CBS has produced since Rathergate.

It even had the famous "Jews poison the well" story, Settlers get the water, Arabs remain dry,

This is the mantra I encounter when trolling Euro Leftist blogs, "Israel is stealing water".

The "wall" which is actually a fence for 80% of its length, cuts into Arabs farms.

Well no shit sherlock. It isn't built for them but against them so that they send no suicide bombers across the border.

The highway is closed to Arabs because they attack it.
A friend of mine lives in Gilo, a short drive out of Jerusalem. He gets shot at almost every week!!
He keeps a metal plate between his car door and his legs as he drives.

I suppose people should just put up with a "Twisted Metal" video game reality when going to work in the morning but Arabs should not be cut off of their olives by a fence keeping out mass murderers.

Lies lies and lies.

I talk to Israelis almost daily. Most, about 65% support a two state solution. It is Arabs and the Euro left (The real Neo-Nazis) Obama has courted which call for a One state Holocaust of Jews. As do the Fatah liars who say they support Israels right to exist as long as they accept 4 million Arabs born in Tunisia, Lebanon and Europe to move in with them.

Israel, the nominal state. That is the goal of Palestinianists world wide. 3 states for Palestinians.
The greatest people in world history who, unlike anybody else deserve, 3 states: Jordan, WB-Gaza and Israel with its new Arab majority.
But unlike Gaza, Jordan and the WB, in Israel I suppose Jews will have the right to live, in some places....like Warsaw.

"we will let them live in a ghetto near Tel Aviv"

And on holidays we will allow the "people" to celebrate by throwing rocks at them or block UN food shipments to them.

This is their end game and Obummer will also find it out as did the other naive idiot, Clinton. They want all of Israel and soon all of Europe.
CBS then can go on and become the broadcaster of daily prayers and but a burka on Katie Curic.

Israel kicked the settlers out of Gaza. They were kicking and screaming but they left. CBS made no mention of it but showed the scene of 3 years ago when Jews pelted the army with eggs as who on earth would be happy when evicted from their homes?

CBS made no mention of the fact that what Jews left behind in Gaza, green houses, orange groves and soda bottling plants, the Arabs destroyed and used whatever they could from what remained to building rockets.
Before Gaza we heard the same reports, in fact if I recall it was also CBS which predicted a civil war in Israel and a military dictatorship.
It didn't happen so there goes CBS trying the same BS setting up the stage to vilify Israel once more so that Mitchell can be seen as some impartial peacenik.

Can anybody imagine what reporting would have come out of the Dhimmi media had Bush appointed a Jew to negotiate peace in the ME!!!

Well we now have an Arab representing America and no complaints. He got the endorsement from Zogby....should be fair right?

What hypocrisy.

What is truly shocking is that reports like this assume that no Palestinian state can exist within which Jews exist. Only a Nazi style Judenrhein status can assure the safety and freedom of others.
As if it would be impossible for Jews to live in a Palestinian state the way Arabs live in the Jewish state.
Of course they couldn't practically as unlike the Jews in Israel, Arabs in the West Bank would wanna slaughter all Jews and burn their homes.
I suppose that is why CBS showed the house demolitions in Jerusalem, more than a few of which were homes of terrorists driving construction equipment into buses and pedestrians and flying Hamas/Hezbollah flags celebrating those acts despite living on Israeli soil.

Can Bob Simon imagine if a NY born Muslim had driven a tractor into a transit bus on Broadway and his family flying Al Queda flags handing out sweets to neighbors celebrating it.
What would DHS and the NYPD do? Hand then a new building permit?

"Israel calls these homes illegally built".

Has Bob Simon ever tried to build a house in NY state without a building permit?

Hasn't he ever been to Rio or Caracas and saw the slums built without any concern for safety or sanitation?
The misery and crime they bring?
Or does Bob Simon wish that Jerusalem should be home to a new Khan Yunis so that in the near future Idf boys will need to die to clean it out of terrorists behind human shields?

Arabs will build homes in Paris without permits. And anywhere else in Europe.

Why is it that when Jews get chased out of a land, it is for its viability whereas when Arabs, it is ethnic cleansing?
I ask, if that were so then why not call for the removal of Arabs from Israel to make it "viable"?
If Jews can live in West Chester, why could not they live in Ramallah, or Jericho?
If Arabs can live in Jerusalem and Haifa...or Rome for that matter... why couldn't Jews live near Jewish holy places?

The assumption here is that Jews cannot exist anywhere but Israel but even in Israel, they are ethnic cleansers.

This Serbianization of Israel is what we will see under the Obama admin.
That they are unreasonable racists wanting to cleanse all others from their holy land while Jews existing elsewhere are a threat to peace requiring their removal.
Is that not ethnic cleansing? Removing Jews from Ramallah and Jericho or Jenin?
I always thought it was but it seems CBS has found a way to define Jews outside of ethnicity.
I wonder what do they define them as?


I'm telling you, it's getting very very bad for the Jews. I live in a tiny town without a Jewish community or an Arab community and the biggest newspaper around just printed a letter to the editor written by a muslim acusing the Jews in Gaza of all sorts of things, killing innocents, destoying every thing, including the trees! I wrote a letter of my own but it wasn't published, I complained, bottom line I canceled the newspaper subscription. What bothers me is only one side is getting out. Unless the Jewish groups get as loud as these muslim groups a lot of people who just don't know a Jew from an Arab from anything else will believe the propaganda. Remember the squeaky wheel gets all the attention.

Christians feel welcome in Israel because they don't threaten same with extinction.

What if a US President asserted Christian Heritage rights in Judaea and Samaria? Most Israelis would respect same because these wouldn't encroach on Jewish rights. I have long favored creation of dual Christian and Jewish states in ALL Palestine. That is something between Kahanism and Peacenowism.

Western Civilization needs to question our serial deference to Arab Muslims. They can retreat to 634 AD regions for all I care.

The West made a huge mistake by not seeking to split Syria from the Arab horde. That can happen. In fact, I have Syrian contacts who want exactly that.

As soon as I saw this story appear on 60 Minutes, I knew it was going to be a hit piece. Even so, the bias was astounding. If I knew nothing more than what I saw in that story, even I would be out on the streets supporting the Palestinian Arabs. The sad thing is that many people will rely on this reporting and point to it to support their position that the peace-loving Arabs are being treated horribly by the war-mongering Israelis. It's enough to make a person puke.

When Jesse Jackson was running in 1984, I saw Bob Simon interviewing the leader of the protest, Fern Sidman, on the termirty of our group protesting the anti-Semite, Jesse Jackson.

Bob Simon gave Fern Sidman a look that she was to be completely ridiculed. Bob hasn't changed in his smug evil all these years.

I can't tell the difference between Pelley and Simon - but one interesting thing about the Livni comment: CBS set it up as if Livni were talking about the total number of "settlers" that the Palestinians claim are in Judea/Samaria (there are NONE in Gaza anymore). That number is approximately 500,000. That's right - half a million. Livni, very clearly, is talking about a very limited number of settlements with "tens of thousands", not "hundreds of thousands" at issue. This much smaller number is consistant (whether one agrees with the policy or not) with the Israeli government's ultimate map of where they would withdraw to - much less than 5% of the "settler" population is covered in what Livni is talking about. Bob Simon (and CBS) would have you believe that Livni is agreeing to remove all of the "settlers" and completely accede to Palestinian demands. That is patently untrue and, in fact, libelous. If you didn't know better, you would think that even the foreign minister of Israel agrees with Hamas that Jews have no right to be in the "settlements". In actuality (again, whether you believe in the policy of ethnic cleansing of some Jewish "settlers" or not), Kadima's (Livni's party's) policy is to hold on to most of the major "settlements" in any final resolution of the issue. This is a difference of 450,000 plus people that Bob Simon carefully edits into Livni's position as being deserving of transfer. Since it is clearly a distortion of Livni's (even Ehud Barak's) views - that any neophyte with Google can research - the only reasonable and possible explanation for CBS to broadcast it this way is as an extremely biased propaganda technique.

Isn't Bob Simon Jewish?

I would strongly encourage anyone that has been following this site and any others that feel that this coun try has been taken over by a socialist dictator -

to go to Atlah.org, sign up for Pastor Manning's 2012 movement,

listen to his sermons about Obama and the Evil this man Possesses....join the movement......Obama CAN be stopped

"60 Minutes" presented a NAKED EXAMPLE of the Left-Wing MSM ACTING in it's new "ASSUMED" role of PARTICIPANT rather than RECORDER of Events, Partisan ,rather than Neautral OBSERVER, and in THIS CASE ,TOTALLY on the side of WRONG and EVIL!

Also, the PROBABILITY EXISTS that JIHADIST MONEY , in some way ,shape ,or form, MADE IT HAPPEN,ie. the MONEY WEAPON!


Bob Simon,a Former Prisoner/Hostage of Iraqi Jihadists quite obviously has an ACUTE CASE of UNTREATED STOCKHOLM SYNDROME.

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