The Great Mark Levin has the EXCERPTS: Charlie Gibson Interviews Sarah Palin (September 11, 2008)
THE BOLDED & UNDERLINED PARTS WERE EDITED OUT OF THE INTERVIEW
PALIN: There in the state of Alaska, our international trade activities bring in many leaders of other countries.
GIBSON: And all governors deal with trade delegations.
PALIN: Right.
GIBSON: Who act at the behest of their governments.
PALIN: Right, right.
GIBSON: I’m talking about somebody who’s a head of state, who can negotiate for that country. Ever met one?
PALIN:
I have not and I think if you go back in history and if you ask that
question of many vice presidents, they may have the same answer that I
just gave you. But, Charlie, again, we’ve got to remember what the
desire is in this nation at this time. It is for no more politics as
usual and somebody’s big, fat resume maybe that shows decades and
decades in that Washington establishment, where, yes, they’ve had
opportunities to meet heads of state … these
last couple of weeks … it has been overwhelming to me that confirmation
of the message that Americans are getting sick and tired of that
self-dealing and kind of that closed door, good old boy network that
has been the Washington elite.
GIBSON: Let me ask you about some specific national security situations.
PALIN: Sure.
GIBSON: Let’s start, because we are near Russia, let’s start with Russia and Georgia.
The
administration has said we’ve got to maintain the territorial integrity
of Georgia. Do you believe the United States should try to restore
Georgian sovereignty over South Ossetia and Abkhazia?
PALIN:
First off, we’re going to continue good relations with Saakashvili
there. I was able to speak with him the other day and giving him my
commitment, as John McCain’s running mate, that we will be committed to
Georgia. And we’ve got to keep an eye on Russia. For Russia to have
exerted such pressure in terms of invading a smaller democratic
country, unprovoked, is unacceptable and we have to keep…
GIBSON: You believe unprovoked.
PALIN: I do believe unprovoked and we have got to keep our eyes on Russia, under the leadership there. I
think it was unfortunate. That manifestation that we saw with that
invasion of Georgia shows us some steps backwards that Russia has
recently taken away from the race toward a more democratic nation with
democratic ideals. That’s why we have to keep an eye on Russia.
And,
Charlie, you’re in Alaska. We have that very narrow maritime border
between the United States, and the 49th state, Alaska, and Russia. They
are our next door neighbors.We need to have a good relationship with
them. They’re very, very important to us and they are our next door
neighbor.
GIBSON: What insight into Russian actions, particularly in the last couple of weeks, does the proximity of the state give you?
PALIN: They’re our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska.
GIBSON: What insight does that give you into what they’re doing in Georgia?
PALIN:
Well, I’m giving you that perspective of how small our world is and how
important it is that we work with our allies to keep good relation with
all of these countries, especially Russia. We will not repeat a Cold
War. We must have good relationship with our allies, pressuring, also,
helping us to remind Russia that it’s in their benefit, also, a
mutually beneficial relationship for us all to be getting along.
Sarah Palin on Russia:
We
cannot repeat the Cold War. We are thankful that, under Reagan, we won
the Cold War, without a shot fired, also. We’ve learned lessons from
that in our relationship with Russia, previously the Soviet Union.
We
will not repeat a Cold War. We must have good relationship with our
allies, pressuring, also, helping us to remind Russia that it’s in
their benefit, also, a mutually beneficial relationship for us all to
be getting along.
GIBSON: Would you favor putting Georgia and Ukraine in NATO?
PALIN: Ukraine, definitely, yes. Yes, and Georgia.
GIBSON: Because Putin has said he would not tolerate NATO incursion into the Caucasus.
PALIN:
Well, you know, the Rose Revolution, the Orange Revolution, those
actions have showed us that those democratic nations, I believe,
deserve to be in NATO.
Putin thinks otherwise. Obviously, he thinks otherwise, but…
GIBSON: And under the NATO treaty, wouldn’t we then have to go to war if Russia went into Georgia?
PALIN:
Perhaps so. I mean, that is the agreement when you are a NATO ally, is
if another country is attacked, you’re going to be expected to be
called upon and help.
But
NATO, I think, should include Ukraine, definitely, at this point and I
think that we need to — especially with new leadership coming in on
January 20, being sworn on, on either ticket, we have got to make sure
that we strengthen our allies, our ties with each one of those NATO
members.
We have got to make sure that that is the group that can be counted upon to defend one another in a very dangerous world today.
GIBSON:
And you think it would be worth it to the United States, Georgia is
worth it to the United States to go to war if Russia were to invade.
PALIN:
What I think is that smaller democratic countries that are invaded by a
larger power is something for us to be vigilant against. We have got to
be cognizant of what the consequences are if a larger power is able to
take over smaller democratic countries.
And
we have got to be vigilant. We have got to show the support, in this
case, for Georgia. The support that we can show is economic sanctions
perhaps against Russia, if this is what it leads to.
It
doesn’t have to lead to war and it doesn’t have to lead, as I said, to
a Cold War, but economic sanctions, diplomatic pressure, again,
counting on our allies to help us do that in this mission of keeping
our eye on Russia and Putin and some of his desire to control and to
control much more than smaller democratic countries.
His
mission, if it is to control energy supplies, also, coming from and
through Russia, that’s a dangerous position for our world to be in, if
we were to allow that to happen.
Sarah Palin on Iran and Israel:
GIBSON: Let me turn to Iran. Do you consider a nuclear Iran to be an existential threat to Israel?
PALIN:
I believe that under the leadership of Ahmadinejad, nuclear weapons in
the hands of his government are extremely dangerous to everyone on this
globe, yes.
GIBSON: So what should we do about a nuclear Iran? John
McCain said the only thing worse than a war with Iran would be a
nuclear Iran. John Abizaid said we may have to live with a nuclear
Iran. Who’s right?
PALIN:
No, no. I agree with John McCain that nuclear weapons in the hands of
those who would seek to destroy our allies, in this case, we’re talking
about Israel, we’re talking about Ahmadinejad’s comment about Israel
being the “stinking corpse, should be wiped off the face of the earth,”
that’s atrocious. That’s unacceptable.
GIBSON: So what do you do about a nuclear Iran?
PALIN:
We have got to make sure that these weapons of mass destruction, that
nuclear weapons are not given to those hands of Ahmadinejad, not that
he would use them, but that he would allow terrorists to be able to use
them. So we have got to put the pressure on Iran and we have got to count on our allies to help us, diplomatic pressure.
GIBSON:
But, Governor, we’ve threatened greater sanctions against Iran for a
long time. It hasn’t done any good. It hasn’t stemmed their nuclear
program.
PALIN:
We need to pursue those and we need to implement those. We cannot back
off. We cannot just concede that, oh, gee, maybe they’re going to have
nuclear weapons, what can we do about it. No way, not Americans. We do
not have to stand for that.