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lowandslow

The United States urged Israel Saturday to avoid civilian casualties as it pounded Hamas targets in Gaza

How do you avoid civilian casualties when it's a Hamas tactic to embed themselves among civilians? We know it, they know it, the rest of the world knows it, yet in the end it always becomes Israels fault.

BigAlSouth

I just wonder how much U.S. tax dollars were wasted on assisting Hamas in the construction of those "Police" stations.

Underzog

"Better to have an Israel that is hated than an Auschwitz that is loved."

Rabbi Meir Kahane, Zt"l

Holger Awakens

Kill 'em all, all at once.

And when they're all dead, Kill 'em all again.

Gwenn Pomerantz-Devereaux

Is everyone out there asleep? The United States asking for Israeli restraint when these Islamic punk-bitches throw stones, only to then run and hide behind women, who voluntarily bless these cowards for endangering their own children,... shames me. Dialog, I think not. Stop this absolute insanity once and for all. As Albert Einstein said:
"The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil things but because of those who look on and do nothing." Israel..JUST DO IT!

Charles Martel

Anybody else recognizes 'Fat Fatima' in the 3d picture, the same ghoul as in the other pallywood propaganda photos and videos, including the one in which a woman held two cartridges as evidence that US forces shot at her house in Iraq?

Anochi

Thank You for this post. B.

Mary Lentz

Israel, with the incoming Arab loving US admisistration, take action while you still can. I am so proud of you.

Timur

It's about time Israel got off their haunches and did what needs to be done with this moslem scum. Kill 'em all and let G-d sort it out. The bible says it is better to give than to receive, so Give 'em Hell, Israel! Merry F@cking Christmas, Hamass! You sowed the wind, now reap the whirlwind! LMFAO!

jj

pamela:

an admirable start.

think the fellows at hezbollah headquarters will be at their posts, bright and early tomorrow morning.

the nuclear plants should be next, and pronto. they represent a threat to israel such as hamas never dreamt of, and should be taken out. and, while israel is at it, she should also take out the theological centers of islam, where the jihad is taught and preached. and, for good measure, the all jizz headquarters should go up as well.

plenty of room in eternity for some new recruits.

john jay
milton freewater, oregon usa

p.s. i am only ashamed that a contingent of u.s. navy airplanes were not involved in this. they should have been, learning operational co-ordination with the israeli command and control, for an operation on iran. i hope the u.s. had planes in the air, at the very least, appearing on iranian radar at the same time. one of those "messages" the diplomats are always blathering about.

p.s.s. and, yes, it looked like "fat fatima" to me, too, charles martel.

jj

pamela, friends:

and though it may sound a bit odd to say it this way, a good day for civilization and good.

and, for peace. and, for security. and, for morality.

hezbollah next!!!

john jay

Rebel Rebel

They've got until January 20th. Same goes for India.

Hey Robert Malley, did talking with hamas help? Obama, why don't you send him over there! In fact, pul-eeze send Maley and Samantha Power over there!

Mike in NC

Pamela,

Been reading you for year, keep up the great work!

All I can say is ABOUT EFFING TIME THAT WORM OLMERT GREW SOME BALLS. Now I just hope he can keep them long enough to finish the job.

solsticewitch13

KICK ASS ISRAEL!!

Give Peace a CHANCE!!

KILL Terrorists!!

Happy Holidays fellow Infidels

)0(
solsticewitch13

"don't annoy the bikers
it's a islam free zone"

jj

pamela, friends:

you know, i still cannot get the good italian friar out of my mind, who put the mosque in the nativity scene, on the bethlehem skyline.--

maybe in light of recent events, he could present a little tableau of activities in the mosque basement of jihadists upping production of homemade rockets to replace those destroyed by the israeli's in gaza, to show his "dialogue" and "solidarity" with islam and hamas? /sarc tag/on/

laughing.

that is one of the places hamas terrorist and like minded types build and store their munitions and weapons, by the way, right in mosque basements. right under the covering activities of the pious & devout & faithful, as they go about their religious activities. do you think they do not know about the activities of their sons and daughters.

if israel widens the scope of her attack, and i pray fervantly she does, i hope she targets mosques, and mosque basements for attack, for this is where the weaponry is produced and stored. that is why everybody reacts with such "amazement" when one of them goes sky high, ... , hey, on the skyline, ... , and mutters, geez, do you think there were explosives in there? yeah, "amazement."

just thinking.

john jay
milton freewater, oregon usa

p.s. mosques are, btw, recognized in islamic architecture as serving multiple purposes, one of them being an armed fort or enclave from which to defend, and advance the faith, to include advancement by military conquest. remember that, the next time one goes up, and soon, i hope.

Gideon300

I expect they will just bomb a few "security" compounds, maybe a few targeted missile attacks on the leadership. The world will whine and moan, and Israel will stop. Rinse and repeat. What needs to be done is an ultimatum to both Gaza and the West Bank. It should go something like this: One more rocket into Israel, one more suicide bombing and go look for a new home. As we will level everything and allow you to go live in Egypt or Jordan where you will have such better treatment in the refugee camps they will set up for you.

Charles

Hamas was warned and warned and warned ad infinitum. They did what they did knowing what would happen - and they didn't care about their own people but are rather grateful to have non-combatants (not "innocent civilians") who can be sacrificed for the greater jihad. Now that the step has been taken, it must be an effective campaign.

dented_uk

I have been trying to respond to some of the braindead comments on Sky News website, but they appear to be picky as to who they allow to post (no surprise there).

Israel, well done...cool!

barbfaye

I am a Christian who loves Israel and her people. God ALWAYS fights with Israel. You started the fight now finish it, no matter what the rest of the "let's talk about peace while they try to wipe you off the face of the earth" world leaders have to say.

Kenny Solomon

Hip hip, cheerio and all that.

One thing though: Not enough.

More... Wipe them all out... every last mother'n one of 'em. There are NO innocents there. Not a one. From birth they are taught to hate and kill. Enough is enough. Israel needs to be proactive or risk losing everything.

Cheers !

Kenny
Typical Bitter Jewish God-Clinging Gun Owner And Barking Mad Insane NASCAR Fan.

EJO

Dear Pamela;
Talk about severely conspicuous hypocrisy!
Russia? Condemning the Jews? Literally invading an innocent foreign country, Georgia, for trumped up reasons is OK! But invading a terroristic land where lives wretched people who are trying to kill you is bad?
Sudan? It is said, by the UN, that about 800,000 people have been killed through violence, and/or starvation since 2003! But now they damn Israel for killing cold blooded murderers, and wannabe's?
Iran? When they're not threatening to wipe Israel off the map, chanting "Death to America, and executing homosexuals by garroting, they are trying their best to develop an Atomic Bomb so they can drop it on Tel Aviv. And now they have the gall to criticize Israel for defending itself against it's enemies?
And guess what else those dirty Zionist did! They used, (get ready; here it comes), A DISPROPORTIONATE AMOUNT OF FORCE! Yeah! I know! No kidding! Somebody actually said that! Well I hope the IDF does it again tomorrow.
And in closing, I'd just like to say that those base cowards who wear masks, and hide behind women, and children should be thanking Allah that I am not the dictator of Israel. Because I am nothing if not DISPROPORTIONATE. Can you dig it?
Sincerely;
EJO


Sebaneau

How Conservatives Lose Elections
Caroline B. Glick, December 24 2008

It would seem that in recent years conservative candidates in both Israel and the U.S. have forgotten how to win an election.

To win an election, a political party must identify and satisfy its political base. It must also identify and attract potential swing voters. To accomplish the latter task, a party has to identify the strengths and weaknesses of their opponents and co-opt their strengths while highlighting their weaknesses.

One of the most difficult challenges of running a campaign is figuring out how to attract undecided voters without alienating or demoralizing a party's base. On the face of it, doing so should be easier for conservatives than for liberals in the U.S. and Israel because a majority of voters in both countries define themselves as right-leaning.

As Karl Rove noted recently in The Wall Street Journal, in spite of the Democrats election victory, the U.S. remains a center-right country. According to pre-election and post-election surveys of American voters last month, 34% consider themselves conservatives, 45% say they are moderate, and only 21% call themselves liberal.

In Israel, consistent polling shows that more than 60% of Israelis reject making territorial concessions on Jerusalem and the Golan Heights and do not believe it is possible to reach a credible peace accord with the Palestinians. Moreover, the vast majority of Israeli Jews are socially conservative; 80% of Israelis, for example, classify themselves as religiously observant or traditional.

These numbers go a long way in explaining why liberal candidates in both the U.S. and Israel seek to portray themselves as conservative hawks during electoral campaigns. In the U.S., Democratic presidential candidates from Jimmy Carter to Barack Obama have run as moderates with conservative tendencies. In Israel, leftist politicians from Yitzhak Rabin to Shimon Peres to Ehud Barak to Tzipi Livni, have all portrayed themselves as security hawks ahead of elections.

As candidates, these politicians (and their supporters) understood that to win, it was necessary for them to go to the right - where the voters are. Once elected, of course, they have governed as liberals -- that is, until they began considering their reelection prospects.

While it makes sense for left-leaning liberals to move to the right in elections, it makes little sense for their opponents to move to the left. After all, the voters are on the right. Yet for some reason, moving to where the voters aren't is becoming common practice in both the U.S. and Israel.

As we saw in the U.S. presidential election and in the current Israeli Knesset campaign, by moving to the left, right-leaning candidates demoralize their base. And far from convincing swing voters to support them, they make swing voters feel comfortable supporting their opponents.

During the presidential campaign, Republican nominee Senator John McCain believed that to win, he needed to convince voters he was the "anti-Republican" Republican. McCain believed President Bush's low approval ratings meant the public had rejected the Republican Party.

But McCain's analysis was wrong. Americans had rejected Bush and his policies, not his party as a whole. Had McCain campaigned as the anti-Bush candidate by attacking Bush's passivity on issues like illegal immigration and the Iranian and North Korean nuclear programs, and had he attacked Bush's big government policies, he would have successfully distanced himself from an unpopular president and rallied his base.

Moreover, he would have been able to attack Obama for pushing immigration, foreign policy and economic policies identical to or even more extreme than Bush's failed policies.

By incorrectly identifying the object of both Republican dissatisfaction and swing-voter concerns, McCain demoralized his base and convinced undecided voters it was okay to support Obama. Indeed, it was McCain's anti-Republican campaign more than Obama's change campaign that brought a majority of voters to Obama. As polling data indicates, Obama did not move many Republican voters to his side.

What enabled Obama to win the election was not a massive voter shift from right to left. Rather, Obama owes his victory in large part to the fact that McCain's anti-Republican campaign convinced a lot of Republicans that they had no one to vote for and so 4.1 million Republican voters stayed home on Election Day.

As Rove reported, Obama's crucial victory in Ohio came despite the fact that he won 32,000 fewer votes in the state than John Kerry did in 2004. It wasn't that Obama was loved. He won because McCain's base hated McCain. In Ohio, McCain's anti-Republican campaign caused him to win 360,000 fewer votes in the state than Bush won in 2004.

In Israel, Likud under Benjamin Netanyahu today has the advantage of running against Kadima, whose strategic and diplomatic programs have been largely rejected by voters. On the other hand, Netanyahu is running against Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni who is quite reasonably playing down her radical and failed policies and basing her campaign on her undeserved reputation for competence and her dubious public persona as a clean politician.

To win, Netanyahu and Likud should be doing two things. They should be continuously pointing out Kadima's record of failure in office and they should be attacking Livni. They should be emphasizing Livni's personal failures in office and focus the public's attention on the fact that she owes her political rise to her association with corrupt politicians like Ariel Sharon and Ehud Olmert.

Instead, Netanyahu is pointing his guns at his own party. For three precious weeks, he staged an ugly campaign against his intra-Likud adversary Moshe Feiglin. And in so doing, he angered a significant portion of his political base.

Then too, rather than emphasizing the policy distictions between Likud and Kadima, Netanyahu has sought to blur those distinctions by promising to form a unity coalition with Kadima after the elections and pledging to continue the government's negotiations with the Fatah terror movement toward an Israeli withdrawal from Judea, Samaria and Jerusalem. As well, Netanyahu has opted not to highlight his own oft-stated refusal to withdraw from any part of Jerusalem or the Golan Heights.

As to political integrity, rather than highlight Livni's ties to crooked pols, Netanyahu has tried to "out-integrity" her by bringing a political enemy, former justice minister and dovish Kadima supporter Dan Meridor, back into Likud.

Far from harming Livni's prospects, Netanyahu's actions have increased the public's appreciation for her supposed attributes and so made fence sitters feel comfortable supporting Kadima.

On the other hand, his actions have angered Likud's core supporters. Many are now willing to consider other options for voting. Some are moving to other rightist parties. Some are moving to Kadima. And some are declaring their intention not to vote. This is the reason that over the past two weeks, Likud has lost its 10-15 seat lead in the polls and is currently in a dead heat with Kadima.

Both McCain's failed campaign for the presidency and Netanyahu's current campaign in Israel may be partly attributable to the profound leftist bias of the media in both countries. It is possible that due to the media's overwhelming support for left-leaning candidates, right-leaning candidates have drawn the incorrect conclusion that their societies and their potential voters lean left.

Whatever has caused the state of affairs in which conservative candidates feel compelled to turn to their political opponents for support that will never come rather than rely on their voters who comprise the majority of their electorates, it can only be hoped that both in Israel today and the U.S. in the future, conservative politicians will reverse course.

It does no one any good when voters elect politicians who do not share their views because politicians who do share their views insult and anger them.

Caroline Glick is deputy managing editor of The Jerusalem Post. Her Jewish Press-exclusive column appears the last week of each month. Her book "The Shackled Warrior: Israel and the Global Jihad," is available at Amazon.com <http://www.amazon.com/> .

elvis
The United States urged Israel Saturday to avoid civilian casualties as it pounded Hamas targets in Gaza/
Shabbos? ... slow news day, heh! -- Israel is getting smart.
Miluimnik

Guess what? The Targeting and Recon. UAV's that have pinpointed the Hamas leadership and cost the barbarians upwards of 250+ sub-human lives......are remotely piloted by Female IDF soldiers mainly! The finest women in the world!

shmujew

Time to get rid of ARABS in ISRAEL AND BLOW THE DOME and DESTroy AL aksa and the abomination under the temple mount....ITS TIME JEWS TOOK THEIR RIGHTFUL PlACE !!!!! AM ISRAEL CHAI <<>>>

shmujew

THROW THE RELIGIOUS SQUATTERS OUT AND KILL THEM ....NOW IS THE TIME

Cate

GOOD JOB ISRAEL!!! About damn time!!!! I spent a whole lot of years visiting that area. These "palestinians" will never stop. Never. Hamas, Hezbollah, they are nothing but pond scum. Israel NEEDS to protect herself. Period. Grow some balls, and rid the world of these terrorists, once and for all.

I remember speaking with a tank commander that talked about the decision he had to make on firing on a little boy who was standing in the middle of the street in a town in Lebanon...with a grenade launcher pointed at the tank. All the while the adults that had lined the streets were taunting the commander. Yes, that's right, willing to sacrifice that little boy's life to keep up a lifetime of hate. I remember when "penny bombs" were a popular way to maim and kill schoolchildren. Put there by "palestinians" who wanted nothing better than to kill an Israeli child. I remember seeing all the amazing amounts of Russian weaponry, tanks, etc.., that was pulled out of the Beaufort Castle shortly after the IDF captured it in '82. All for the purpose of wiping Israel off the map.

Israel needs to wipe these organizations OUTTTTTTTT!!!!!!! Period. Once and for all.

Josef K

WELL, WELL... A GREAT SEASON'S GREETING TO SATAN'S ARMY!
ABOUT BLOODY TIME!!

shmujew

KILL ALL 1.4 BILLION COCKRAOACHES

JD

Thank you, Israel, for bringing me the best news this Christmas. It has given me hope. Peace on earth, through superior firepower. Please show no restraint in the job you must finish. JD.

Josef K

Well, "Saturday's death toll was the highest for a single day in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict since 1948, when the Jewish state was established." (SOURCE)

Geese, perhaps it's time Israel got feared if not respected by the Palis.

LazarOfSerbia

Finally! IDF shoud finish the job this time. Go Israel!

MdDeeDa

Please someone explain to me, where was the outrage when Hamas was sending rockets into Israel. Where were the screaming and ranting. So is Israel supposed to sit and let Hamas pound them and not defend themselfs. Heck no.

lilredbird

There is nothing in the world so exhilarating as watching good people draw a bead on the s.o.b.'s who are trying to destroy them AND POUND THE FESTERING BASTARDS INTO THE GROUND!! Even if it is about damn time. Go Israel!

TINBH

Go Israel! The civilized of the world are on your side.
And don't stop at Gaza - arab demons must be returned to the desert hell they came from

TINBH

"Please someone explain to me, where was the outrage when Hamas was sending rockets into Israel ..."

It's called psychological warfare and propaganda conducted by the enemy - external and internal

Ironwolf32

IDF, do not stop until the job is done. The future of Israel is depending on it.

One Hamas member is too many.

Josef K

IDF, your courage is putting yourselves between not just your fellow citizens but the free world (which includes America) and Hamas. Thank you.

BOMB, BABY, BOMB.

NO MERCY!

TINBH

Down with islam!
Arabs out!

geo11

The BBC commentators today were totally Hamas apologists. One was calling the Israeli response as being too over reactionary and killing scores of innocent Palestinians. When the Israeli representatives responded that they were defending their citizens. Thee BBC asshat said that they were just inviting more rockets. Then the BBCraps would bring in Jew hating Hamas defenders that were talking of occupation by Jews and the poor suffering Palis under Israeli rule. It was a sickening display of anti-semitism by the BBC. I think that if Hamas wishes to continue with the rocket attacks into Israel. The Israelis should give the people of Gaza 24 hours to exit before the carpet bombing begins. Let Syria, Iran Saudi Arabia take in the refugees. Israel made a big mistake turning Gaza over to bunch of hate filled savages.

charlesmartel

Like a bus load of lawyers and the cliff, it is a start.

charlesmartel

Like a bus load of lawyers and the cliff, it is a start.

TINBH

oh yeah

"alla hu akhbar"

Miluimnik

If anyone wishes to ask the Barbarians how it feels to be on the receiving-end for a change;

Human Rights Defenders in Gaza (available for interviews):

Dr. Eyad Sarraj (Arabic and English) +972 599400424

Ewa Jasiewicz, Free Gaza Co-Coordinator in Gaza (Polish, Arabic, and

English) - +972 59 8700497

Dr. Haider Eid (English and Arabic) + 972 59 9441766

Sharon Lock (English) +972 59 8826513

Vittorio Arrigoni (Italian) +972 59 8378945

Fida Qishta (English and Arabic) +972 599681669

Jenny Linnel (English) +972 59 87653777

Natalie Abou Shakra (Arabic and English) 0598336 328

For more information on the Free Gaza Movement (FREE GAZA) or the International Solidarity Movement (ISM) contact in the West Bank:

Adam Taylor (ISM) - 972 59 8503948

Lubna Masarwa (FREE GAZA) - 972 50 5633044


rls

This is a battle and not the war. In order to win a battle all you have to do is beat the enemy in that single engagement. To win the war you must destroy the enemy's ability to engage in any battle.

Israel needs to completely destroy Hamas' ability to wage war and that means that they must destroy the Palestinians in Gaza and probably most of the infrastructure there also. Whatever is left of either should be shuttered inside with a complete embargo. Do not let international pressure interfere.

Wars don't end until the other side is sufficiently dead. This should be Israel's war - not just a battle.

JOQ001

Praise Israel for it's actions - The only way to end Hama, Islam and all of the Sharia Evil in that region is to Destroy them all - you can not deal with such evil in any other way - When they are all dead then we will have peace........

Go Israel and the Jewish people!

Josef K

Latest JPost.com update: "The death toll in the Gaza Strip rose to over 280 Sunday, Palestinian sources said, as IAF aircraft continued their bombings of Hamas targets."

YEAH. 280 devils back to Satallahn. I wish it was 280,000, but I digress. My hatred for people who intentionally start chaos to get attention to provoke a reaction to get/retain power is very deep.

PaintedBlueBavarian

Go Israel! Blow those evil cultists out of the water. Defend yourselves and defend those of us who live in lands with dhimmi leaders. I want the Temple Mount back in Jewish hands. God Damn them for stealing one of our most precious sites. I want all Christian, Jewish, Hindu, Buddhist and all other non death religions to gather up and fight back against the evil ones, the lovers of death and haters of love.

Docmaster

As a Turkish-American, I was deeply saddened and ashamed to hear of the reaction of PM Erdogan of Turkey! Turkey and Israel have long since been friends (ever since being rescued from Spain, all through WWII to the present) and will continue to do so. We have lived in peace for centuries! Please understand that many fanatical fundamentalists (snuck in a decade or so ago from Iran) have infiltrated into many key positions in the government (parliament and even the PM) in Turkey. The military wants to take over and remove these parasites, but the PM has arrested some of the top military generals to prevent such an action. Heck, they even have some of their "people" in the police forces! However, the silent majority in Turkey are not like them and would like to see them removed. Believe me when I say that we are no big fans of Arabs (especially after what they did to us during WWI with the help of England's Lt. T.E Lawrence)! Both our countries have signed treaties of friendship (that just "kills" the Arabs). We do military excercises together and share intelligence between MIT and Mousad! I'm certified in bio-terrorism and counter-terrorism here in the states and deal with intelligence officers all of the time (MI-6, Mousad, CIA, NSA, ONI, MIT, etc.). It is indeed a difficult situation in your region, but Israel has every right to exist in peace! Islam is not a bad religion. Actually, it is a beautiful religion. However, in the hands of fanatics and extreme fundamentalists, they have turned Islam into an unrecognizable thing that the world now despises, just so they can acheive their hold on ignorant and uneducated people to get them to do their bidding! In the 1920's in Turkey, after a village full of fundamentalists captured a young Turkish Lt. and then hacked him to death, Ataturk sent in the military to surround the village. The commander of the unit gave an ultimatum to the village to surrender the Imams and fanatics who were responsible for the murder of the young officer or they would bombard the village. The occupants turned over every single guilty person. After questioning the witnesses, everyone of these animals were executed (hung) by the military on the spot! So, you see, we tolerate a lot, but even we can only take so much of these fanatics! I personally am a nationalist and want to continue Ataturk's vision of secularism, peace and technological advancements via cooperative actions with other nations. I, and many others like me, will do what it takes to achieve that goal. Until then, despite what you may hear (the press loves to exagerate!), please know that Turkey will always be your friend and ally! We on this end will make sure of that. Just as Israel is surrounded by hostile nations, we too are surrounded by nations that would love to see us destroyed as well. Good luck, hang in there and Happy Holidays!

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