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preciseNews

Curiouser and Curiouser!

rsbriggs

The picture on your site is a COLB, which is not a long form certified birth certificate. The difference between the two is something like like the difference between your vehicles registration card and the actual certificate of title. You can get by with producing a copy of the registration when you want to have have a vehicle inspected, but you need to produce the title if you want to legally sell or transfer it. This is because the registration doesn't really prove ownership - anyone can get one by paying their state DMV the appropriate sum of money. You need to actually own and have paid for the vehicle to have possession of the certificate of title.

Basically, anyone can get a Hawaiin COLB by paying some clerk in the state of Hawaii some money, and if you find the "right clerk", for just a few dollars more you would only need to produce minimal proof, or even no proof at all, of having been born in Hawaii.

BUT... To be able to obtain a certified long form birth certificate, you have to have actually been born there, and the appropriate records need to exist at the hospital - (unless you find a "very expensive" clerk willing to produce you one, and these people don't work for the State of Hawaii, generally).

A COLB and Birth Certificate ARE NOT THE SAME THING... I'd like to see a CERTIFIED LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE for proof of being elgible to run for POTUS, please, not a COLB...

Xoce

Slightly off the topic but why doesn't anyone make a big deal out of the YEAR Obama spent writing/not writing his book in "Bali", INDONESIA. The reason I put "Bali" in quotation marks is because he obviously did not spend the whole year on the tiny island, the oasis of Indonesia, the touristy non-Muslim island. The rest of Indonesia is Muslim making it the largest Muslim country... I am guessing Obama hopped around and met a lot of area leaders during his time in that area... possibly traveling on his supposed Indonesian passport.

formerwm

This all sounds like the making of the end, but no one will touch it in the MSM. Now if it was Dan Rather and fake fitness reports from the Air National Guard on Bush it would be headline news...FOX news alert etc... But someone trying to circumvent the US Constitution hmmmmm, snooze fest for the left. There is a power force behind BHO that has nothing to do with him, he is a puppet. I don't know what that force is but I think it would put a chill of fear across this nation if we found out. I am not a nut job but something is up!

kobi

dewer is somfing veeeeewy fishy hewr. i smell a wat!

Deacon John M. Bresnahan

Did Hitler have as much help from the news media of his day as Obama is getting from our corrupt MSM?? I just heard a column read on Limbaugh by a writer named Orson Scott Card (I believe that's the right name) and what a total indictment of the lies, deceit, fraud, bias, and total corruption of the MSM. It was almost shocking to hear all the MSM's garbage piled into one heap.

abinitioadinfinitum

Deacon,
Orson Scott Card?
He wrote one of my favorite books of all time, Enders Game, a MUST read.
I Googled and this is prolly the article you are talking about.
http://www.ornery.org/essays/warwatch/2008-10-05-1.html
Thanks for the heads up, I missed part of Rush today.
and glad to know Orson Scott Card is sane.

Bill

I tried to use the email address above for the clerk of the court and it did not work???

Sally

try emailing to 'PAED_clerksoffice@paed.uscourts.gov' it worked for me!

Frankns

I really appreciate this discussion.

For some time now, I've had the sense that something is "not right" with this campaign. The adoration/adulation in the face of concrete contradictory facts really leaves me feeling queazy.

I'm not the only one. Check out this site: http://journeytoclarity.blogspot.com/

The attention to detail is pretty impressive. Someone worked at this pretty darned hard at putting this all together in one place.

The whole problem with the COLB really gives me the chills. Something is not right here.

Frankns

I really appreciate this discussion.

For some time now, I've had the sense that something is "not right" with this campaign. The adoration/adulation in the face of concrete contradictory facts really leaves me feeling queazy.

I'm not the only one. Check out this site: http://journeytoclarity.blogspot.com/

The attention to detail is pretty impressive. Someone worked at this pretty darned hard at putting this all together in one place.

The whole problem with the COLB really gives me the chills. Something is not right here.

dean

Well, according to this:

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Blogs/Message.aspx/3074

Obama's paternal grandmother says he was born in Kenya and she was there to witness it.

Now, my question is, is this the same grandmother he's going to visit?

Mark my words, if this trial thing comes to a head, we're going to see this woman out there swearing up and down that he was born in Hawaii, and not in Kenya as she previously stated.

Dandy

The fella investigating the shenanigans as highlighted at Shrugged is one of the original 911-Troofers.

He filed suits against Bush, Cheney, etc. claiming they were responsible for 9/11.
http://www.911forthetruth.com/
http://www.rinf.com/columnists/news/philip-berg-seeking-the-truth-of-911

He also made some nutball claims against USSC justices asking that they step down for their roles in the 2000 elections...
http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2007/01/philip-j-berg-nutbar-supreme.html

His own blog:
http://www.911forthetruth.com/pages/BergBlog.htm

Now his past actions & affiliations shouldn't necessarily color our judgment of him today . . . or should they?

I'd love to see The One tossed out on such a basic technicality as much as the next guy, but I am pained to see the pages of otherwise reputable sites sullied with this nutjob.

Respectfully,

Michael D.
California

Dandy

The fella investigating the shenanigans as highlighted at Shrugged is one of the original 911-Troofers.

He filed suits against Bush, Cheney, etc. claiming they were responsible for 9/11.
http://www.911forthetruth.com/
http://www.rinf.com/columnists/news/philip-berg-seeking-the-truth-of-911

He also made some nutball claims against USSC justices asking that they step down for their roles in the 2000 elections...
http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2007/01/philip-j-berg-nutbar-supreme.html

His own blog:
http://www.911forthetruth.com/pages/BergBlog.htm

Now his past actions & affiliations shouldn't necessarily color our judgment of him today . . . or should they?

I'd love to see The One tossed out on such a basic technicality as much as the next guy, but I am pained to see the pages of otherwise reputable sites sullied with this nutjob.

Respectfully,

Michael D.
California

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