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Sunday, January 06, 2008

"Please Don't Tell My Father"

Sarah_amina_said

"This was an honor killing." More here.

WTF is wrong with everybody? These girls were murdered in the name of Islam. How is this story not huge? Why isn't it splashed across the front pages of every major American newspaper and news channel?
I am not getting it.

Most media has aligned itself with the terror force and subjugated itself to Islam (ie the refusal of all media to run those innocuous Danish cartoons.) And FOX? They loved a murdered damsel in distress (think Jesse Davis, Natalee Holloway, Stacy Peterson  on an endless loop- too many to mention). Is the 6% of FOX  the Saudis purchased enough to muzzle the network? It was one thing to change the coverage of the Islamic riots in France - but this is the United States. This is America. This is our country. NO ISLAMIC MURDER IN THIS COUNTRY.

Dr Nancy said,"We love our seventeen year old cell-phone-toting, tiny T-shirt wearing, boy-crazy, diva-girl teens in this nation. They are our (baby boom) daughters, they are our icons (Brit), they are our ideal (all forty year old American women trying to look seventeen). We have a soft spot for such girls which is why America is so obsessed with little girl lost Brit. Those girls were so cute and they were both American model-beautiful (the light sister) and dark-American attractive (the dark sister). "

Sisters, Amina, 18, and Sarah, 17, were each shot to death. Friends of the girls say their father was Egyptian and critical of popular American lifestyles. ""He was really strict about guy relationships and talking to guys, as well as the things she wears," said Kathleen Wong, a friend of the dead teenagers. "I'm definitely 100% sure that it was her dad that killed her."

The media won't even say what it is - honor killing (honor? how absurd).

Wong says the girl's father was verbally abusive and that Sarah, especially, lived in fear. "She's always told me that she was always so scared of her dad," says Wong. "Even at school if a teacher joked around like, 'I'm gonna tell your parents about this', she would like totally flip out and start crying like, 'please don't tell'." (Full article here.)Sarah_amina_said_honor_killing

The girls were buried this weekend.

Islam must be demonized here. Islam is responsible for these cold blooded murders. Islam rewards such actions. They cover for the murderers. Where is the father and who is hiding him?

Why isn't Oprah running a series on their treatment of women? The average Oprah-watchin' American woman would care. Deeply.  At present, people don't care because it's another country and culture and "we can't tell them what to do" but this is America, baby. They were killed for being typical American teens and this should be huge.

What am I missing? Help me out here.

Aqsa_parvez

  A Canadian man has been charged with murdering his own daughter, and her friends say the two clashed over her refusal to wear a Muslim head scarf. Police have not commented on a motive. Aqsa Parvez, 16, of Mississauga, Ontario, was rushed to hospital in critical condition Monday after a man made an emergency call in which he claimed to have killed his daughter, police said. She died late Monday night.

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Nothing is sacred anymore in America except kissing islamic ass. Our government is dhimmified. Time to hoist the black flag, methinks...

This was an Islamic terrorist attack against US citizens.

A quick glance at their web-posts should convince anyone that these were two "All American" girls..... murdered by an Islamic terrorist in the name of "Islam is Peace".

How many millions of jihadis will we have to import...and how many clitorectomies and murders must we ignore before we cal a spade a spade?

I'm glad you wrote this, Atlas - it's exactly what I've been thinking. A Muslim murdered his daughters IN AMERICA, THIS WEEK, because of what they wore or something. And, not a word...nobody cares. It's just ... not ... news. Shouldn't people be boiling with rage? This isn't medieval barbarity happening in some remote place, it's right here, right now, in our own country. Just can't understand...

Atlas,

This should be front page news everywhere. However, are you really surprised it isn't? It is times like this that I am tempted to just give up and say to hell with everyone. But then I remember I have two young kids, so I can't give up. Damn it! I think it will take a Beslan-style attack on a American school to get our attention. And even then, you'll have people screaming that Islam isn't the problem. They's say, it is a religion of peace that has been hijacked by extremists. Bulls***. Islam is a cult of death that needs to be eradicated from the earth like the cancer it is.

God! What will it take!

Quoting Atlas: "Islam must be demonized here. Islam is responsible for these cold blooded murders."

Absolutely. What compounds the heinous nature of the cold blooded murder of these two beautiful gifts from heaven, is that despite all the horrors that most pious monster who followed the example of his demented prophet and the curious mother each taking their final assault on these precious innocent souls by serving them up at the altar of Islam for the funeral, where the master of ceremonies chose to make them an example to the community. (spit spit spit)

Even after the mother admits running from the father earlier - she willfully stepped back into the mosque with the bodies of her dead daughters. If this heinous murder didn't wake her to the insideous nature of 'her' god . . .if her own son's betrayal, as he coldly and without hesitation defended this awful belief system while his sisters bodies cooled to room temperature . . .if all that hasn't brought these girl's mother to her senses - than she, along with her disgusting son deserves the hell that lays before them.
As for the sperm donor - I hope to hear the words "wanted, dead or alive". Texas boys know how to take care of business.

It is disgusting. Islam is not a religion and its far past time we faced that fact. It is a belief system based in violence, tyranny and subjugation. It needs to be kicked out and put down like a rabid dog.

Minor temporal anomoly - Aqsa was murdered 3 and a half weeks ago.

Neither of these crimes are the first honor killings in these countries. It's been going on for quite a few years, but the press and a large part of the population will not call a spade a spade.

I saw a segment about this on Fox a few days ago, so I don't think they are ignoring it.

As for Oprah, why don't you write in and suggest it. People write in suggestions all the time to that show.

I'm trying to keep this as civil as possible, for the sake of any legal liability that Atlas has for comments posted here...

I simply fail to see how a) this story isn't at the top of the headlines, and b) how this guy hasn't been lynched yet. There's no longer any reason for him to be alive, as I see it.

This has happened so often here in Holland..girls being murdered by their brothers, uncles, cousins or fathers. And just as in the States the papers keep mum, unless it reverberates too loudly on the internet We have safe-houses for battered women, where the majority of fugitives are muslem these days..It's what Hirsi Ali was taking action against, but Dutch officials are still very reluctant to handle this as a problem specific for islamic culture, even though dutch girls and women are hardly ever terrorized as these women are. The police can't really protect these women, because "a threat is not enough to lock a perp away, untill he acts on it" and of course the men making the threats aren't being extradited. It wouldn't really help though, I'm afraid, because the families simply appoint another male to execute the offending female
These crimes will never be eradicated in our judicial system. It takes draconic measures to take on these practices, and for that we are too wishywashy in the western world. Nobody seems to realise that there's a war going on, and we have to stand up for our way of life - and for the safety of these new citizens

Scapegoating is one of the most effective tools of propaganda. In modern times it was used to great effect by the Nazis upon the Jews.
Blaming a whole people for the acts of a few, it is wrong and should not be done or tolerated

John Ryan;

The terrorist attack upon these innocent American girls was motivated by a book and the traditions that complement that book.

Sort of like Mein Kampf. Get it?

[And yes...there are plenty of "bad Muslims" who could not be persuaded to commit such an act....but even these "bad Muslims" would not report the incident for fear of retribution. If this terror attack had been carried out in Dearborn Michigan or Bradford in the UK for instance, we would never had heard about it.]

Pamela, from my lonely and draughty stations on the internet I have linked to, written about, quoted and quipped, and pseudo-blogged regarding the menace the radical side of Islam poses to the West, and all it holds dear, for years and years:

-Islam, a Religion of Peace®? The Most Damning links...--

and I'll be Eternally Damned if I can figure out how to get across to people, better, that if you don't "wake up, and smell the Jihad," that Jihad is going to get you, your women, your civilization, and all that you value.

In the names of "tolerance & diversity" the West has let something in the door that is going to consume us...

Face it. We have a weak government.Politically correct weak.Tackling something like this is too hard for them.Sort of like PETA. Only go after something or someone who is too weak to kick up a fuss. Peta ignores horrific animal sacrifice. Our government is no different. They have been ignoring this since the flow of islamic cancer to our soil. Their culture is against our law.So why do they come here thinking they can continue with their culture.Pamela I hope you keep this front and center and until this sob is caught and his sentence front and center to show these ghouls we will not tolerate.(I'm wondering why, if a teacher knew these things of the girls being so scared, why a DHS worker didnt show up at the camel tent)

John Ryan:
"Scapegoating is one of the most effective tools of propaganda. In modern times it was used to great effect by the Nazis upon the Jews.
Blaming a whole people for the acts of a few, it is wrong and should not be done or tolerated"

Remaining silent while the "few" commit heinous acts is wrong and should not be done or tolerated.

But what is a "few"? There are over 1 billion muslims in the world. The dhimmi press likes to claim that "only 10%" are radical... even that super low estimate is 100 MILLION PEOPLE who want us to DIE for being born. It is THEIR MUSLIM LITERATURE (what they call scripture) that states "And the tree and the rock will cry out: "OH MUSLIM- There is a Jew behind me; come KILL him".

And yes, that is the "scripture" that ALL who call themselves muslims are supposed to believe...I'm waiting to hear them (as a MAJORITY) RENOUNCE such passages. Of course, if they renounced passages from the koran and hadiths that espouse violence or ways of evil against non-muslims, most of the book would have to be torn out and burned.

These are the facts, not "scapgoating". And if you want to compare anyone to nazis, compare the muslims, over 100 million of whom outright call for the ANNIHILATION of other people, and are ACTING on that call. Over 50 shooting wars RIGHT NOW involving muslims. Over 200 AMERICANS MURDERED by muslims RIGHT HERE IN THE USA in over 50 terror attacks by muslims (not counting 9/11/01 and 93 attacks on WTC). Over 10,000 terror attacks by muslims around the world since 9/11/2001. Tens of thousands DEAD by MUSLIM action. And ACTIONS speak louder than words. Just like the solution in Israel would be so simple: stop attacking, and we'll have no reason to defend ourselves by shooting back.

Muslims don't like people disparaging their "religion"? Then THEY are the ones who need to do something about it, other than whining, seething, raging, and engaging in violent acts as their attempt to convince us they are not all evil.

"OH, if you call us violent, we will get mad and kill you". Sheesh.

Dude, you need to either READ and LEARN from all the stuff posted here on Atlas Shrugs (including following the various links along the sides), or stop wasting your time and energy creeping here just to post apologist BULLSHIT. Cause READERS of Atlas see it for what it is: BULLSHIT.

PS- muslims have been attacking for 1,400 years. Don't believe it? Read some muslim history- WRITTEN BY THE MUSLIMS THEMSELVES, and learn the TRUTH.

ok alcibiades, I wrote the the big O(prah) last night and sent in the story imploring her to take up the mantle. . Let's see .......... not holding out for Oprah.

Before islam in the arabia when a man had a daughter he used to bury the little baby to the graund even dough she is alive because this was a tradition of them and they used to feel humiliated because of their daughters (Actualy there was the same stuation all over the world at the same time . Because womens were accepted as unworthy humans)But Islam have banned to bury little girls to the ground alive and had a high view of the women .actualy Islam is the only religion which have a high opinion of the women.

Responsible of this murder isn't Islam. İf there is a mistake , this is not Islam's fault . This is ignorant people's fault who misunderstand and misconstrue of the Islam.

Islam is a total of the unchangeable worths of the humanty.

Responsible of this murder isn't Islam. İf there is a mistake , this is not Islam's fault . This is ignorant people's fault who misunderstand and misconstrue of the Islam.

Posted by: whiteangel | Thursday, January 17, 2008 at 02:12 AM


The usual lame excuse, repeated ad nauseum by every Muslim under the moon.

For those of us still clinging to civilized humanity, read Rober Spencer's as always informative article:

Culture? Or Religion?

Islam is a total of the unchangeable worths of the humanty.

Islam is a totalitarian religion, advocating death, pillage and subjugation of the entire non-Islamic world. We spit on your vile faith, its scriptures and the rabid animal Mohamed who conjured the whole thing up for his personal pride and his material pleasure and well-being.

Shy Guy;

You are slandering Islam because you are only seeing behavior of ignorant minorty. All right then shall we slander christianity or judaism ? Because American soldiers have been tormenting people in Iraq and Israel soldiers have been killing little babies in to the Plestine currently.You don't see those things do you ? But we can’t do this because muslims are accepting Jesus(s.a.v.) and Moses (s.a.v.)as a messenger and we can’t insult to them like you insult Muhammad(s.a.v.) . Here this is the difference between us. We don’t ınsult precious values of another people . I recommend you read the Quran to learn how to be a civilized human.But you must read as neutral .

Also you have stain of the middle ages in your history . Europe or America (according to me both of them are the same stuff) learned to become civilized from the muslim Ottoman . Are you trying teach us again? We already knew that before you .


lastly, Islam certanly don’t order innocent people to be killed.

"lastly, Islam certanly don’t order innocent people to be killed."

"Islam is the only religion which have a high opinion of the women"

Now that one is better than any stand up comedian I have ever heard.If you don't want to be ridiculed don't say ridiculus things


Rise_up ;

Those aren’t ridiculus things . Ok then show an evidence from the Quran about the matter of innocent people to be killed or about low opinions of the women . ıf you can . I even know that you haven’t ever read it before.

You are amusing me . Because you don’t talk with evidence .But I ‘m offering you Quran as an evidence. Your claims are unproved.
Europe used to burn women in the middle ages because they accept that women are as a witch. Europe learned from muslims that women aren’t witches.

You say that this is ‘’honor killing’’ . Islam isn’t involved in it. You believe that it is order of İslam when a muslim commits a crime . Well then are you thinking that it’s order of christianity when a christian commits a crime ?

even though you all insult Muhammad (s.a.v.) i will pray for you to meet with Islam

Comment from a different thread here:

A new comment from “Generous1” was received on the post “TEXAS DAD "HONOR" KILLINGS,
17 & 18 Year-old Girls” of the weblog “Atlas Shrugs”.

Comment:
I too was raised at a Muslim household and migrated to the U.S. in 1992. In fact, I lived in Afghanistan, and have first hand expierence with these types of irrational (for the lack of a better word) behaviors. I am not surprised nor is it the first I've heard of "honor killing", still one question constantly comes to mind: why do these people live in America? They say they come here for the freedom, Opportunity, and the American dream, yet they make no effort to let go of their most absurd, repulsive, and in-humane believes. It's sad to say the least, to see these beautiful girls die in such a horriffic, and spineless tragedy, but I hope that this would be a learning lesson to other Muslim teen girls: there are other options, you no longer have to tolerate these cruelties. Family or not, your life is the most important. You can't change their mentality, because they are driven by years of being brain-washed but you can get away from it, like I did. As a woman, everyday I am thankful to be in the States, where I chose not to tolerate and be part of this appaling culture.

Commenter name: Generous1

whiteangel:

“Those who have disbelieved and turned others from the path of Allah, for them We shall increase punishment on top of punishment because of the corruption they have been causing.”

So, Islam should be demonised... to lessen the degree to which "Western" lifestyles are demonised by Muslims... is that the reasoning and understanding given in consideration of the facts of how human minds work that I'm seeing here? I would like to think you refer in your article to the violent regions of the beliefs, as honour killings are far from the rule in every Islamic famliy, and I have met more than a few temperate regular folk who happen to believe in Allah and to think Muhammed is his prophet. Seems no sillier than any ideology to me. At least five-and-a-bit million civilian deaths throughout the world since world war two can be attributed to the US's defence of the "Western" capitalist way of life, whereas the number attributable to Islamic fundamentalism is somewhere vastly lower, depending on whether you count the legal systems of Sudan and Saudi Arabia as being part of the "body count of ideology".

Some people can handle killing, others cannot. Those that can, think ( whether correctly or incorrectly depends on the example you look at ) that it is a useful means for spreading their ideology. But it's a little unfair to presume that that ideology is shared by every human who habitually visits a mosque and practices Hajj.

What were those two poor murdered girls' religious beliefs?

C'mon. Not only do honor killings occur in other cultures as well, but there is absolutely no support for such a thing in Islam, nor any examples in the law books or history of Islam. It's a problem, and sad, but not based on the right practice of Islam.

There has got to be a catch... I have never heard of this (thankfully I am linked to your blog) and this is a DISGRACE! Political Correctness run amok.

conservopunk

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