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Monday, December 03, 2007

WRONG ON SERBIA!

The beatings, the torture, systematic destruction of churches by Muslims. And Bush wants to give them a state in Kosovo. Paving the way for a radical Islamic state. Go over to Serbia Liberation for the horrible photo essay of the "cleansing" taking pace."
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Wounded and beaten Serbs hospitalized in the "Simonida" Hospital at Gracanica

British Armored Contingent of KFOR helplessly watching Serbian houses burning
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Wounded and beaten Serbs hospitalized in the "Simonida" Hospital at Gracanica

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Destroyed the only remaining hospital in Serbian enclave in town Kosovo Polje

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P> Destroyed the only remaining hospital in Serbian enclave in town Kosovo Polje

The pictures here are a stunning indictment. Clinton was wrong and Bush is wrong.

Jane sent this terrible link with the following remark,"Obviously the west has betrayed Serbia in favor of Islam.  What people don’t get is that our leaders are also setting the stage for the same fate to befall Israelis.  But, it won’t stop with the Serbians and Israelis, as our leaders have forsaken their own people throughout the west.  Those in charge are puppets of Islam and traitors. This is our future if we don’t stop them. "

She is absolutely right. If you haven't heard my radio show Islamic Bosnia: "It Began with a Lie" with Julia Gorin and James George JATRAS, Director of the American Council for Kosovo (www.savekosovo.org), it is a MUST LISTEN. Go here.

UPDATE: What he said.

And a very good post on all of it here.

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this bush should be beaten over the head with this by the dhimmicrats, but they are the dhimmicrats, and funnily enough bush does what they say but the difference is he doesnt say it. WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH THESE IDIOTS?

Not just wrong on Serbia, wrong on Islam. Period.

It is as though Bush had a stroke.Or some other brain damage. All the wrong crap he will do before he leaves office. He is fast surpassing that pos Jimmah carter as being the worst president and that is saying a mouthful. And on another note, these islamics are no different from army ants, bot flies,locusts, and all other devastating vermin. Look what they leave in their wake.

Just ONE of many.


Serbia, Croatia, the lot ....to hell with them.

Serbia with Srebenica is removed PERMANENTLY from any sympathy here. Worse, they protect and laud the slaughterers (how many are STILL running around as wanted men?), and some of the worst anti semitic sites I have EVER come across have been pointed out to me proudly by some of my arab acquaintances are Serbian.

Sorry but no taker here for Serbia.

So you want to give the Islamists their own state?

Yes - Let's have another Islamic state - they are such resourceful and peaceful entities. I live for more Islamic states.

"pointed out to me proudly by some of my arab acquaintances are Serbian."

Do you think they were trying to influence your opinion?

Sadly, anti-Semitic jerks exist in all communities. Is every single Serb anti-Semitic because of the sites you have seen? Every community has its share of anti-Semitic idiots - U.S. Canada, France, England etc., and these individuals are a disgrace. Must we hate everyone within these communities because of the sick attitudes of a few?

The point of these articles was to enlighten individuals as to what we will be facing. It starts with tolerance of Serbia, moves on to Israel, next stop Europe, and then North America. If we tolerate the destruction of the Serbian culture then we are giving permission to proceed elsewhere and ultimately have our own culture destroyed.

We get it. Fascist Milocovich good President Bush bad. These photos don't prove anything different.

I want to give nobody in that part of the world the time of day.
Not the hideous serbians, not the KLA kosovars, not the collaborationist, Iron Cross croations.

Serbia has MORE than it's share of jew-hating sob's, Jane.
Not one of those nations deserve the slightest support from america, LEAST OF ALL, the nation which protects men like Radko Mladic.

This would be a disturbing and unacceptable development.

Opposing the creation of another islamist fascism, is not the same thing as supporting, sympathizing with and aiding the men and the nation which executed Srebenica.

Jane this:
"If we tolerate the destruction of the Serbian culture then we are giving permission to proceed elsewhere and ultimately have our own culture destroyed." is an ABOMINATION.

The day we have allied ourselves to the designers and executors of srebenica and the likes of Mladic, we HAVE ABANDONED everthying worth defending except our lives, which we will have devalued by such actions. Want to make Howard Zinn right? All we have to do is listen to you.

LGFers - You have already done enough damage post the Brussels Conference. For whatever reasons you believe that only you are on the side of right. Take a cold hard look at the actions of Clinton and Bush regarding Kosovo. Add to the mix the latest fraud known as Annapolis. Every decision that is being made by your politicians are on the side of Islamists. I hope you look forward to being just another slave of Allah. You sir are an ABOMINATION for being prepared to watch Christians slaughtered because your politicians owe favors to Islam. EVERYTHING WORTH DEFENDING HAS BEEN ABANDONED BY YOUR LEADERS, ALONG WITH THE REST OF THE IDIOTS THROUGHOUT THE WEST.

Want to let the Islamists run our lives? All we have to do is listen to you and the other trolls at LGF.

Link to this article posted on GCP Forums, on 1389 Message Blog, and on GOV,
also reviewed on StumbleUpon.

The blood-libels against the Serbian people uttered by the disgraceful Epaminondas and Lil Green Lizard have already been thoroughly refuted in many places, including:

this link on Gulf Coast Pundit Forums,

Rome Wasn't Built in a Day - Nor Was Modern Anti-Serbian Racism, and

this recently-updated blog post.

Let me remind Epaminondas, Lil Green Lizard, and everyone else at Leftist Green Footballs that false accusations of genocide have been used, and are still being used, to incite real genocide against those falsely accused, namely the Serbs. This, in itself, is a war crime - on your part - and it has not gone unnoticed.

I'm really tired of LGFers continuing to spread Croat Ustasha and Muslim propaganda to pad the Clintonistas "legacy" and secure Billary's return to the White House.

It was Clinton that requested from his mujahedin ally in Bosnia Alija Izetbegovic to secure "at least 5000" Muslim victims, so he could justify bombing of the Bosnian Serbs and reducing their over 70% of land legally owned in Bosnia to less than 40% in Dayton (today's Republika Srpska). It was Clinton's State Secretary, Mad Albright, who first declared (a month after the alleged "Srebrenica massacre") that no less than 8,000 Muslim "men and boys" were "executed" in Srebrenica by the Serbs led by General Mladic.

12 years after the alleged "genocide" Muslims longed for so they too can say they finally failed to commit one, but were instead victims of one, there are still no bodies that would back the allegation, except for couple of thousand members of Muslim mujahedin army who were not executed but killed in a battle for Srebrenica. But there are also close to 3,400 bodies of civilian Serbs (men, women and children, for Muslims don't take time to separate women and children from men when they raid non-Muslim towns and villages), raped, massacred, and decapitated, from Serbian towns surrounding Srebrenica Naser Oric, Srebrenica warlord, kept raiding for years before Serbian army finally said: Enough!

So, epaminondas, lil-whatever, where is your righteous indignation and moral outrage when it comes to non-Muslim and Christian victims?!

General Mladic is a hero to Serbs, because he took over the city from the pathological raving mad jihadist Oric, who ruled the region with the sword and with his army of thugs who played football with severed Serbian heads (the al-Qaeda camp in central Bosnia footage was recently shown, revealing the most appalling truth). So stop talking gibberish and do some serious research before you start lecturing on what's acceptable and what's outrageous.

You bought Muslim/Ustasha propaganda (spread through the Western MSM during the past two decades) hook, line and sinker - out of all former Yugoslav nations, Serbs are the only ones who ever protected Jews, and who always sympathized with them, because the two nations share the destiny so similar it is frightening. Included in that destiny is this despicable, purely fascist propaganda that keeps turning victims into culprits and presenting the down-to-the-core anti-fascist Serbs (who lost one third of entire population fighting fascists during the WWII) into fascists. Read Jared Israel, Julia Gorin, read those who know what they're talking about, instead of speaking out of your arses all the time.

Slobodan Milosevic's parents were part of Serbian anti-fascist guerrilla and were killed in the concentration camp during the war. To call late President Milosevic "a fascist" shows not only one's utter ignorance, but also despicable level of malice.

Congratulations to the Atlas Shrugs for revealing some of the Serbian suffering in their own country under the rule of Clinton/NATO-hirelings, Albanian Muslim terrorist KLA.

Please don't automatically delegitimize an opinion because of the inter-blog spat.

I'm a fan of all these blogs. Here's my opinion, after seevral years of reading commentary on the subject on such blogs as American Thinker, Israpundit and more:

The Serbs are no angels. Milosevic was not innocents of many of the ugly crimes his regime committed. And, yes, there are a dispraportionate amount of Serbs who are supremists and some of the ugliest anti-semites to post their trash comments around the web.

On the one hand, it would serve Europe right to get a taste of their own medicine by having an Islamic terrorist jump-point right along their underbelly. On the other hand, I wish Europe would wake up and when they realize what they're no longer willing to put up with will make them understand what Israel should never have had to tolerate from day 1.

The bottom line for me is that supporting the Serbs is the lesser of 2 evils which should be promoted.

Shy Guy, I am absolutely delegitimizing everything that is based on thin air, the general statements like you too are using, that are not based on facts but the result of a bias triggered by the Western mass media onslaught and virtual pogrom of Serbs during the past two decades.

I'm not against "opinions", but when you can't show any facts behind your opinion, than it is merely a prejudice.

For example, you say "the Serbs are no angels". So?! Are Americans angels? Are the Jews angels? Are Germans angels? Frenchmen? Italians? Brits?... which nation as a whole is a nation of angels, so that simply saying "Serbs are no angels" actually means something significant, or proves a thing? Tell me of one nation which was drawn into a bloody civil war that has behaved like an angelic army. Pray tell!

Secondly, "Milosevic was not innocent of many of the ugly crimes his regime committed". Why don't you tell us which ones he was guilty of?! What are the exact crimes "Milosevic's regime" committed? Please name ONE concrete example of Milosevic's "crime".

On the contrary, with the International Court of Justice's verdict which exonerated Serbia from any involvement (planning, organizing, suppling, taking part, etc) in the civil war in Bosnia, some have argued, like John Laughland in Guardian, that Milosevic was posthumously exonerated of Bosnian part of indictment in its entirety.

Even the former ICTY (Hague Kangaroo Court) President Antonio Cassese—clearly unhappy with the actual World Tribunal's Judgment— had to admit this and understood fully what the ICJ's verdict meant:

“Serbia was not responsible under international law,” he wrote; “Nor was Serbia guilty of complicity.” Most important of all, Cassese added that “if former Serbian President Slobodan Milosevic were alive, he would be absolved of the charge of genocide.”

So do, please, enlighten me: which "many of the ugly crimes" has "Milosevic's regime" committed.

Finally, you write very confidently that "there are a dispraportionate amount of Serbs who are supremists and some of the ugliest anti-semites", to which I say: rubbish!

That is simply not true and no amount of saying "yes it is" has the power to change the facts.

Serbia today remains the only country of all the former Yugoslav republics that is fully multi-ethnic, multi-religious and multi-cultural. Not a single non-Serb, non-Christian was ever forced to leave Serbia, not even when half a million Serbs were expelled from Croatia, not when hundreds of thousands refugees were flocking to Serbia from neighboring Bosnia, not when both Serbs and Albanians were running from Kosovo province to Serbia.

Jews were never treated as second-class citizens in Serbia (except during German occupation in WWII), and neither were Muslims or Turks, Hungarians, Egyptians, Gorans, Romanians, Croats, or dozen of other nationalities living in Serbia for centuries.

Serbs were the only ones who started fighting fascist in the spring of 1941 - the Americans were the Johnny-come-lately - they joined OUR club and our fight, that cost us gravely, right along our Jewish brothers and sisters!

However, in the 1990s the most Serbophobic, loudest, nastiest and most aggressive people who were pushing for aggression on Serbia and virtual destruction of Serbs, coincidently happened to be mostly prominent American Jews (Madeleine Albright, Richard Holbrooke, George Soros, Senator Lieberman, Tom Lantos, Roy Gutman, NY Times owners and editors, Washington Post owners and editors, etc., even CNN's Larry King who kept bringing scores of warmongers, eager to pound the Serbs "back into the stone age").

That left a mark, but instead of hatred there was (and still is) a lot of disappointment.

However, Israeli Jews, unlike a number of their American brethren, were always much better informed about what is really going on. Israel was, in fact, helping arm Bosnian Serbs (because they knew al-Qaeda and Arab mujahedins are fighting the Serbs there).

So this is what I'm talking about: why don't you let the facts speak, and then we can allow the opinions to be formed. This way, you come up with a biased opinion and a pile of prejudices, slam down few general statements that mean nothing and say nothing and then expect a Serb or a Serbian friend to prove that it is not so.

Do prove, instead, that what you are saying is true.

The Bosnian Muslim mujahideen and the Kosovo Albanian Muslim KLA (under whatever false name they are calling themselves this week) are the local branches of al Qaeda in the Balkans.

By continuing to spread enemy propaganda on behalf of al Qaeda, under the guise of being counter-jihadist bloggers, Charles Johnson and his stooges from Leftist Green Footballs are HELPING THE ENEMY.

Last I checked, the US is at war with AQ. If nothing else, as long as OBL's fatwa against the US remains in effect, AQ is at war with the US. That makes them enemies. That makes these "lizardoids" traitors.

You DO have to choose sides in these conflicts. There is no middle ground between good and evil, between truth and error, between supporting your country and supporting its enemies. Attempting to remain neutral means evading one's duties.

Throughout history, giving aid and comfort to the enemy of one's homeland has been a capital offense, not only in the US but just about everywhere else. This is because a traitor does far more damage than any legitimate enemy combatant. At least in the US, the laws have not been changed, and when things get bad enough - and they will - the US will begin enforcing those laws again. Rope, tree, lizards...

Listen MORONIC SMEARERS who attempt to paint me as something I am not, and have never been .. I have nothing to do with LGF, don't comment there, and read it sparsely at best. People had to POINT OUT TO ME I was quoted there.

Your problem Sevtlana and all is that in your inner NEED to make the new 'enemy' (me) an entity you can deal with, it must be some LGF-esque thing you can paint with the only brush you have.

Attempts to JUSTIFY Srebenica are transparent DENIALS by function, for DENIERS.

There is no justification on earth or in heaven. That is the OBJECTIVE REALITY.

RU FEELING ME?

You are using the EXACT justifications in trying to find a tortuous path to make this not too bad, as all the arabs I know made to me as to why and how their antecedents chose the nazis so as to have allies against the jews. They chose cancer to fight a 'deadly' virus.

The USA has no place in such a spot. Our joining with the forces who performed the 'heroic' acts of Srebenica which are so blithely and squirmingly justified here GUARANTEES FAILURE for america.

FAILURE.

'Multi ethnic serbia' .... hey, I have a fire hose for you from a 1960 Selma, AL fire dept.

The KLA may be a bunch of murdering Qutb scum, but the Serbians? Excuse, me, but except for the eastern orthodox church ... they are just as much the enemies of everything I was ever taught by Grandpa Abe, as their opponents. So you'll have to excuse me if I gag at every attempt to make H2S smell good.

Epaminondas,

On your website, Villagers with Torches, which shows a photo of a lynch mob in the header, you describe yourself as a liberal, and an "outside agitating, former ACLU, Vietnam protesting" liberal at that.

Nobody said that CJ or LGF sent you here. But the fact is that you are doing their dirty work.

Leftist ideology is always and everywhere harmful and wrong, and is especially harmful to those it purports to help.

Thus, the only way leftists such as yourself can peddle their poison with any degree of success is by committing evil:

Lying

Cheating

Stealing

Libeling and slandering innocent people

Using violence whenever they don't get their way.

The only difference between leftists like you, and ordinary jihadists, is that leftists are often so deluded by their own sense of self-importance that they actually believe their own taqiyya.

That's why leftists keep repeating the same lies even after they are soundly refuted, just as you are doing here. You are deaf and blind to any evidence that contradicts the gutter racist propaganda that you spew forth.

Is there anything else anybody needs to know about you?

No.

Do prove, instead, that what you are saying is true.

Posted by: Svetlana | Tuesday, December 04, 2007 at 05:49 AM


As I said, I expressed my opinion which is based on my readings over the past few years of articles from several blogs and web sites. I'm not going to prove anything to you just because I drew a conclusion from other people's arguments.

A somewhat similar opinion to mine has just been posted at DhimmiWatch: Fjordman: Why We Should Oppose an Independent Kosovo.

I hope you won't resort to calling Fjordman an LGF'er. Now that would be ironic!

Incidentally, Pamela, have a look at today's LGF entry: Symbolic Denials Continue.

I think it's time to reassess the evidence that is mounting and recognize that something is very rotten here.

"Several articles from several blogs and web-sites"... Wow, true proof that a nation has a "disproportionate number of supremacists and anti-semites", if there ever was one...

And I do not know where you got the idea of Fjordman's opinion being similar to yours in any way.

Oh please .......those folks in Europe are risking their lives fighting the Islamisation of Europe. They live under constant threat of death.

And the SD and VB are the only staunchly pro-Israel parties in Europe, an enormously unpopular platform considering how large the Muslim electorate there. STAUNCHLY PRO-ISRAEL. That says it all.

Every neo-nazi and Jew hater has aligned themselves with Islam.

It's all such bullshit and damaging. Damaging to the fight against the raging storm of Islamism and damaging (perhaps irrevocably) to the much needed transatlantic counter jihad movement. I don't know what's behind it but it is the most vexing turn of events in the fight for lives.

epaminondas, no amount of insults and foaming at the mouth can make you seem any less ignorant. It is quite obvious that you don't know a single fact about the Serbs, Balkans, Bosnia or Srebrenica, for that matter, you are simply operating on a heavy bias and an ominous form of racist Serbophobia you caught at some point in time.

But both yours and Shy Guy example are instructive, for this is how the propaganda works and this is how it succeeds: you hear someone important (say, from State Dept.) blame Serbs for everything since The Flood (sometimes based on grainy satellite photos that are, supposedly, showing "mass graves" with 100,000 or 200,000 bodies that never materialize, even after the FBI forensic teams go in and turn each stone and caterpillar around), you hear another someone important (like a then-US UN Ambassador Richard Holbrooke) label all the Serbs as "murderous assholes", you read few articles by an important propagandist/journalist, like Roy Gutman, who wrote entire book based on a "testimony" of a mentally retarded man he paid, you see that Gutman gets awarded a Pulitzer for that piece of crap, and you go into the world so certain of Serbian intrinsic guilt and genetic moral depravity, that you are ready to lynch anyone who would dare tell you what you believe is not based on actual facts. That's sad, but fairly typical. It is also very dangerous, because it just goes to show how easy it is to turn masses into violent racists, nurturing irrational hatred of "the other" to the point of becoming aggressive.

What you call "OBJECTIVE REALITY" (an alleged Srebrenica "genocide") is nothing of the sort. The objective reality is what I told you about it and there are tons of documented evidence that support what I said. Unlike your "OBJECTIVE REALITY" that is supported by a lot of hot air and seared into everyone's head by the virtue of mindless, incessant repetition.

I don't know what you're talking about when you speak of "our [US] joining forces" with Serbs.... Serbs were considered American allies until the 1990s, since they fought on the same side in both world wars. American reporter recently published a book (titled "The Forgotten 500") about Operation Halyard, during which the Serbian anti-fascist guerrilla troops led by General Draza Mihailovic, saved the lives of over 500 American pilots downed over Serbia during the WWII. Serbs have, in fact, performed the largest rescue operation of American pilots during the WWII.

We were allies, but United States betrayed that allegiance in the 1990s, by supporting Izetbegovic's mujahedin in Bosnia, Croats under pro-Ustasha Tudjman (who said "Thank God my wife is neither Serbian nor Jewish!") and Albanian Muslim KLA thugs in Serbian province of Kosovo. The United States also led the offensive to bomb their former allies for 78 days, killing thousands of civilians ("collateral damage") and destroying Serbia's entire infrastructure. So, I don't know how you think to ally with us again, but I'm afraid that proposition is not on the table from the Serbian side - not any more.

If you knew anything about Eastern Orthodox Church that has, if I understand correctly, received your seal of approval, you'd know Church consists of all its members, so all the Serbs are the Serbian Orthodox Church - it's not made of priests alone - far from it.

You mock and deride the very notion that Serbia could be multi-ethnic. I'd ask you again on what do you base such ludicrous Serbophobia, racism and denial, but I don't think there's any way one can actually have a half-decent conversation with you, since you operate on hate-fuel, not on facts.

Sending you to a place on the web where you could learn that, among others, there are more than 10,000 Albanian Muslims living in Serbian capital Belgrade alone (that no one ever tried to "ethnically cleanse" or demean in any way), would probably be equally useless.

Suffice to say that I was born and raised in Belgrade and have lived there most of my life - I figure I might know these things firsthand a tad better and can speak about these issues with a little bit more to offer than wild imagination.

All the best to Atlas Shrugs, its visitors and commenters.

Beware of anyone who's telling you a story, however passionately, without anything but emotion and personal conviction to base it upon. Jews suffered enormously because of these hate formulas spewed by the officials and taking roots in the gullible media and masses, so have the Serbs... you never know who's next in line and then it might be too late to try to talk sense into the thoroughly indoctrinated masses. As clearly demonstrated through these comments.

Best of luck,
Svetlana

Look at 1389's blog.


I have concluded, after some research, that while the ethnic Serbs in Bosnia were far from blameless in the Yugoslav civil war, the Croatians and Bosnian Muslims were also quite guilty of 'ethnic cleansing' and what could be considered war crimes, and the Kosovo Albanians have been engaged in a decade long jihad against the ethnic Serbs of Kosovo.


And yes, the world already has enough terror supporting Muslim states, we don't need another.

I've stayed out of this discussion so far, but please tell me that we're not expected to join hands and sing Kumbaya with Zinn, Ramsey Clark, Harold Pinter and the rest of the "Free Slobodan Milosevic!!" brigade.

It is true that Islamofascism is a part of Muslim Kosovo. It's also true that this fascism is being promoted by our Saudi allies, through their Al Haramain foundation. Although the Al Haramain foundation has been outlawed by both the US and the UN, our state department, the UN and our government ignore the fact that they continue to operate under a different name in the region.

If you have problems with the growth of extremism in the region, don't discuss it with epaminondas, discuss it with our president, our Gulf-state allies, the UN and our state department, the establishments that have allowed Saudi-funded Islamofascism to gain power in the region.

No one is suggesting that anybody team up with the likes of Ramsey Clark. He's known for piggybacking onto this issue to promote his own interests. Not to mention the fact that Milosevic is already dead.

For the record, Milosevic was no Serb nationalist, but a hapless appeaser who was repeatedly hoodwinked by the US and NATO, and ultimately disposed of. See Emperor's Clothes for background. That site has the whole history of MSM pro-jihadist taqiyya!

Oh, and BY THE WAY:

If anyone wants to know what a Serb nationalist is all about, I am a Serb nationalist. I am not ashamed of being a Serb nationalist, nor should anyone be! Here's what it means:

1) I claim that the Serbian people has a right to exist.

2) I claim that those of us who are of Serbian ancestry have the right to be known and identified as Serbs (or as Serbian-Americans, Serbian-Canadians, Serbian-Australians, as the case may be), without anyone else thinking that this gives them the right to attack us.

3) I claim that Orthodox Christian Serbs have the right to continue practicing our religion, wherever in the world we may happen to be.

4) I claim that we as Serbs have the same right to defend ourselves against attack that anyone else has - and that this includes the right to cooperate among ourselves for mutual protection.

Anybody out there who disagrees with me? I've already thrown the glove down - if you pick it up, you'd better be loaded for bear.

Again, anyone who dares to spread false information to libel the Serbs is giving significant aid and comfort to al-Qaeda-affiliated enemy jihadist/narcoterrorists in the Balkans. So if you want to argue with me, be aware that I mean business. This is indeed a matter of life or death. I expect valid logic supported with provable factual information. I expect the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. Anything else will be met with the most vigorous and thorough takedown imaginable.

http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dc2m8p62_383hgqxkpd8
http://pasta.cantbedone.org/pages/uNc5_E.htm
http://greatersurbiton.wordpress.com/2008/10/21/how-to-be-a-serb-basher/
How to be a Serb-basher
Marko Attila Hoare, Greater Surbiton, October 2008


Here’s a patriotism test for dummies.

Take a look at these two photos.

The photo on the left is of the Partisan Stjepan Filipović, who fought to free Serbia from the Nazis in World War II. As commander of a battalion of Serbian Partisans, he was captured in combat by the collaborationist Chetniks, who handed him over to the Germans. As he was being hanged, he called upon the Serbian people to fight the Nazis and their Serbian collaborators.

The photo on the right is of the Serbian quisling prime minister Milan Nedić, meeting with the German Führer Adolf Hitler to request the establishment of a Great Serbia. Nedić had loyally helped Hitler to crush the Serbian Partisans and exterminate the Serbian Jews.

Who was the greater Serbian patriot, Filipović or Nedić ?

It’s not a difficult question to answer for anybody with a shred of political decency or morality (nor should anyone’s answer be changed by the knowledge that Filipović was originally from Croatia, and that the Partisans were, unlike Nedić, opposed to a Great Serbia and fought tooth and nail against its supporters).

Yet today, the Serbian fascists - when they aren’t too busy physically harrassing unarmed women - are trying to convince the world that they ‘are’ Serbia. In other words, anyone who condemns their disgusting activities is supposedly attacking ‘all’ Serbs and engaging in ‘Serb bashing’, as I have learned anew after posting my last article here, which was a statement in support of the Serbian human-rights activist Sonja Biserko, who is currently suffering a campaign of harrassment from the gutter press and the neo-Nazi movement in Serbia.

I appreciate that the sheer shamelessness of the fascists’ claim may be difficult for any normal person to grasp, so I’m going to elaborate. The fascists have long argued that they should be free to kill, rape and torture; wage wars of aggression against neighbouring states and carry out genocide; destroy mosques or burn libraries - but nobody should condemn or even mention this behaviour, because to do so is to be ‘anti-Serb’; to engage in ‘Serb-bashing’. Today, failure to respect the right of fascist thugs to bully and harrass human-rights activists is likewise ‘Serb bashing’.

On the other hand, if you want physically to assault a Serbian human-rights activist, murder a dissident Serbian journalist or even assassinate the democratically elected Serbian prime minister, then not only is this not seen as ‘Serb bashing’, but it is seen as the height of patriotism. To attack Serb democrats and human-rights activists is not to attack all Serbs; indeed, it isn’t to attack any Serbs at all, because any Serb who supports democracy and human rights automatically stops being a ‘proper’ Serb in the eyes of the fascists.

Put differently: a ‘Serb basher’ is not someone who actually bashes or even murders Serbs - like the neo-Nazis who physically harrass Sonja Biserko or the assassins of Zoran Đinđić, not to mention the people who besieged and bombarded the Serb residents of Sarajevo for three and a half years [killing 12,000 of whom 1,500 children] . No; a ‘Serb basher’ is anyone who speaks up for Serbian democrats, or Serbian human-rights activists, or for ordinary Serbian citizens who don’t want to fight endless, unwinnable wars with the rest of the world.

If the mentality of the fascists in Serbia is still difficult to comprehend, I invite readers from outside Serbia to imagine how they would feel if their own countries’ fascists claimed that they ‘were’ those countries. In other words, how would English, Scottish or Welsh readers feel if supporters of the British National Party claimed that they ‘were’ Britain, and that any attack on them constituted ‘Briton-bashing’ and an attack on ‘all’ Britons ? How would German readers respond to the claim that condemning the Nazis was ‘German-bashing’ ? How would American readers take the suggestion that condemning the Ku Klux Klan was ‘American-bashing’ ?

Can you imagine anything more impudent ? I can’t.

But are the Serbian fascists right ? Are they really the ‘true’ Serbian patriots, while the Serbian democrats and human-rights activists are all traitors, Western stooges and not really Serb at all ?

What is the record of the Serbian fascists - the supporters of Slobodan Milošević, Vojislav Šešelj and others, now represented most prominently by the Serbian Radical Party and most crudely by groups such as ‘Movement 1389′ and ‘Obraz’ ?

1) They deliberately destroyed the state of Yugoslavia, with which most Serbs identified, in order to replace it with a ‘Great Serbia’;

2) They initiated and fought a series of wars against Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia and the Albanian population of Kosova, which resulted in military catastrophe; brought about Serbia’s bombing by NATO; killed [thousands] of Serbs and turned hundreds of thousands more into refugees; impoverished the once-prosperous Serbian people; and blackened Serbia’s image internationally;

3) Having ruined Serbia economically and robbed it blind, they are now doing their best to keep it out of the EU and ensure its continued international isolation, while countries that were once considered poorer cousins, such as Bulgaria and Romania, are peacefully enjoying the benefits of international acceptance and EU membership.

What a glorious patriotic record ! Shame on Sonja Biserko, Nataša Kandić, Zoran Đinđić and other ‘bad Serbs’ for dissenting from this programme. And shame on us ‘Serb bashers’ for complaining about it. Just think: if people like Sonja in Serbia, and people like me in the West, had just kept quiet, Milošević, Šešelj, Karadžić and co. might just have been able to conquer Bosnia and much of Croatia, and wipe out much of the Croats, Bosniaks and Kosovar Albanians without the outside world noticing. And then wouldn’t everything have been just fine ?! There’d be a Great Serbian state stretching to the outskirts of Zagreb, in which most non-Serbs would have been quietly exterminated, without the country suffering from any negative international media coverage whatsoever !

And now - oh, the cheek of it ! Not content with foiling these exalted, noble grand schemes, we Serb-bashers have the nerve to make a noise when the poor, defeated fascists want quietly to beat up a few human-rights activists without causing a stir. Must we kick a man when he’s down ? Having denied them a Great Serbia, can’t we at least allow them the satisfaction of bumping off Sonja Biserko ? Have we no shame ?! Why, one can’t even form a neo-Nazi gang and attack unarmed women without provoking negative coverage from the Serb bashers. What’s the world coming to ?

I’m not joking - this is actually the way these people think. Readers are directed to Sarah Franco’s blog Cafe Turco, where Sarah and I came under attack from a couple of charming individuals who came to the defence of the neo-Nazis. You can read the exchange here. One of them, a certain Ivan Sokolov of Hartford, Connecticut, had previously emailed me to inform me of his view:

‘I feel that the Orthodox people had every right to burn all the mosques they could throughout the 19th century.’

A second such individual, who went by the monikers ‘Slavonic’ and ‘Not a slave’, had this to say about me:

‘MAH is very forgiving towards the Turks. The Turks, you see, are approved ethnic cleansers. That’s because 1) they are solid NATO allies and 2) they are friendly to Israel (very important for the Henry Jackson Society). MAH can’t get them fast enough into Europe (with Israel to follow?).’

Has everyone got that ? I’m a servant of the Zionists.

Any further comment would be superfluous. But if anyone would like to join the Neocon-Zionist Conspiracy to overthrow the Aryan Race in Serbia, do please get in touch. Fascism in Serbia is increasingly a defeated, marginal phenomenon, but it is no less dangerous for that to those brave Serbs who, like Sonja Biserko, are under attack from it. Even the current pro-European government in Serbia was forced to encompass a fragment of the Milošević regime, in the form of Ivica Dačić’s Socialist Party of Serbia, in order to take power: Dačić’s control of the Serbian interior ministry may explain why the harrassment of human-rights activists is allowed to continue. Until the last dregs of Serbian fascism have finally been mopped up, Serbian freedom and Serbian democracy can never fully flourish.

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