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UPDATED: More Rot from the RoP.

More love from the Religion  of ................ uh never mind. The last thing they want is real debate.

From: nadir@examinethetruth.com
To: Robert Spencer
Re: Debate on Is Islam a religion of peace?

Robert Spencer,

Hey... its me again. Just wanted to share with you my video interview with CBN.com:

http://www.cbn.com/CBNnews/245934.aspx

There will be a debate on the topic, "Is Islam a religion of peace?" . For the record, I will make it very clear in the debate as well as my post-debate interviews with CBN and others... that you ran away from my challenge, especially since you knew that I was comming after you about Surah 9:29... I will then lampoon your cowardice in honor of our troops fighting in Iraq.

The debate is Nov 3rd in Los Angeles, at Hope International U. If my facts are wrong.. then now is the time to correct me.

Btw, I have cc'ed your 'girlfriend' Pam Geller.

Thanks,
Nadir Ahmed
www.ExamineTheTruth.com

But Spencer is indeed a gentlemen and a scholar. Defending my honor. Yeah babay. The West rules!

From Robert Spencer
To: nadir@examinethetruth.com
Re:  Debate on Is Islam a religion of peace?

Why do you continue to lie? I never ran away from your challenge. You are the one who ran away -- I told you I was ready to debate you in print anytime, or anywhere else if you could come up with a neutral sponsor. You and Bedier were baiting me and then you both disappeared when I said I was going to write about CAIR's connection with you. I have the emails, Nadir, and will publish them if you keep lying about me. Your continued lies, not to mention your slur of Pamela Geller, doesn't give me a very high view of your character.

UPDATE: What confounds me - as demonstrated in the following flurry of emails - is how beneath this level of intellectual discourse is for someone of Spencer's standing and of scholarship. And yet Spencer is compelled, driven even,  to respond. Partly because unindicted co-conspirator CAIR and their tentacles are given unearned credence in media,  academic and government circles. Certainly they are given significantly more airtime in the mainstream media. Islamic bullies have access to high level DC and State government officials - certainly access  Spencer ought to have. Most discouraging. Read the further exchange.

From: nadir@examinethetruth.com
To: Robert Spencer
Re: Debate on Is Islam a religion of peace?

Yea youre right.. maybe you two dont make a good couple... it would
be some thing like .. 'beauty and the beast' thing.

But anyways, me and Bedier have no problem with you writing about
our association, actually we were laughing when you made that statement.

We asked you to come on the show, and you refused. That is why we
"disappeared".

Ok, so now it seems that you are willing to debate so long as
there is some neutral sponsor. Ok, what about www.ministrytomuslims.com ?
They are the ministry you saw in the video? Will that make you happy?

If so, then I am going to let you go on Surah 9:29, because they already
have some one to take your place. That being the case, then I challenge
you to debate the following topic:

    "Understanding the Ideology behind Terrorism"

We will define and provide effective solutions. If you accept, then I will
announce it in the debate and interviews, if you refuse... then I will
also announce that... and a few choice comments ;)

Thanks,
Nadir Ahmed
www.ExamineTheTruth.com

What nerve! The beast calls me a beast! :)

From Robert Spencer
To: nadir@examinethetruth.com
Re:  Debate on Is Islam a religion of peace?

Nadir

You are aptly named. You can't speak to me without engaging in gutter insults? Is this something you do out of your piety? Is this  something that will make your fellow Muslims proud of you?

will have to post the emails and show that you are lying, and that you ran from the debate which I was willing to engage in. Will do so asap, but I'm sorry to say that the likes of you are not highest on my list.

Cordially
Robert Spencer

Ridiculous, sophomoric asshat.

You wrote: > I will have to post the emails and show that you are lying

hehehe.. looks you like you chickened out :) ! You were so scared that you could not let people know about me, for good reason - people are going to view the debates in which the Islam critics were brutally exposed... and they have no rebuttals to the issues being debated on our site.

You have clearly demonstarted that is YOU who is the coward not me... and you did so, in front of your girl friend Pam.

I have clearly challenged you in this email, and you have refused. I will be saving this email for people to see.

And plz, give up on this written debates junk. You perfer this because you DONT know Islam, and you can scramble to other to find answers. And, because it is a lot better to take a beating on paper... on page 23423432 of the docuement.. rather than in person.

And finally, running from me .. is not like running from anyone else. The reason is... because people like myself have 1st hand experience with Muslims/terrorism/ Islamic texts, as we have lived amoung Muslims, speak their language, and have broke bread with those so-called radical elements, grew up with them..and we know them like the back of our hands. So we come to the table with a wealth of information.

While the average American is ignorant - he probably has never met a "jihadist"... can't communicate with Muslims in their language, has spent little if any time in Mosques to undertand Islam in practice and their thinking,  and 99.9% of all his information comes from white people who claim to be experts on the subject - 3rd hand info(foxnews, magazines, websites, friends)

So, it is clear now why you are running from me...

You will be exposed in Los Angeles on Nov 3rd as I lampoon you.

Thanks,
Nadir Ahmed
www.ExamineTheTruth.com

Go Robert!

You are so despicable, I feel soiled writing to you. You think your  lies and your character assassination, your smearing of Pamela and  all the rest of it, is pleasing to your god? Is this a da'wa he will  find acceptable? Me, I think you're in big trouble either way.

Don't count your chickens, my friend. I will post the emails when  time permits. But it will be awhile, as I am busy.

Meanwhile, keep lying. All your lies will come back to haunt you once  the emails are up.

I adore that man (but that doesn't make me his girlfriend.)

Comments

[turn]

Let's see...

On the one hand a 'defender of honor'

(which is an honor for a man to do)

On the other hand 'honor killings'

(shame)

[HelyeahWinnie]

Leave it to an Islamist ("Nadir") to be confused over a FRIENDSHIP between a LADY (Pamela Geller) and a GENTLEMAN (Robert Spencer). Just can't grasp that concept, can he?

[Timur]

Moslems make great politicians. There is no "sin" in lying to kuffar, i.e., non-moslems, in fact the koran demands it of them. By their standards they have done nothing wrong, rather they should be commended for lying.

[USpace]

They are such a joke, his website says nothing of any substance. I think many of them must be like organized crime in that they know they are criminals. The only difference is that they try to silence everybody by cloaking it in religious tolerance. Many of them know they are full of shit. I bet they will blow off the next debate as well.

absurd thought -
God of the Universe says
never debate terrorists

murderous monkeys will lie
and deny to hide their plans
.

[Underzog]

The glories of taqqiyah and turnspeak by our Muslim friends.

Not to mention their typical gentlemanly behavior towards women /sarcasm

"There's no need to fear. Spencer will kick their arse."

[Lawrence]

Islam is a Religion of Peace...
...
... when they rule the globe under the thumb of Sharia law.

[USpace]

So of course Nadir is a racist too: "99.9% of all his information comes from white people".

Not Non-Muslims, white people. What a total phony.

Also Lawrence, it still wouldn't be peaceful if Sharia ruled Earth. There are so many Islamic sects that hate each other extremely, not just the Sunnis and the Shias. They would all fight among themselves forever and ever until most everybody was dead or isolated...

absurd thought -
God of the Universe says
DON'T KILL religious Nazis

let them kill each other
after they have killed you
.

[Timur]

Just goes to prove that islamists wallow in lies like pigs wallow in their own feces...
Wish I could be there to see the look on that moslem dog's face when Robert walks in to debater him.

[Thomas Carney]

Timur: Nadir won't debate Mr. Spencer. Muslims can't debate. They won't debate. They won't think because their so-called religion won't let them.

Muslims are like bullies at the playground.

Why is it that Muslims consider themselves superior to every other religion in the world but with the exception of that moral cesspool Saudi Arabia, all other Muslim countries are poor shiitholes??