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Michael_B

Solid commentary. Scruton is most always thoughtful, deliberate and illuminating.

Btw, he edits a small online periodical titled Risk of Freedom, something of a quarterly covering a fairly wide range of topical issues, most recently on "Theory of Risk," "Therapy Culture," "Obesity" and "Freedom of Religion," all thoughtfully covered, incisive and without any politically correct set of assumptions governing its commentary, while avoiding any reactionary impulses as well.

Macker

Sorry Pamela...I don't think any movement which wants to fight the Islamization of Europe should ally themselves with any organization which has had in the past, or currently has, ties to Nazism IN ANY FORM WHATSOEVER! It would be as if they would sell their souls to the Devil to accomplish their goals.
I. Will. Not. Submit.

Pamela Geller

Nazi collaborators is the problem of the whole of Europe, Austria, France, Italy etc. even America. If all the collaborators would had been jailed or boycotted, there wouldn’t had been one European politician. De Gaulle took in his cabinet former collaborators and declared an amnesty.

RISE_UP

Through out history, nations have used the most vile of sorts to fight a common enemy. Even the United States does this very thing. So EVEN IF....they are Nazi. They are not likely to sweep over us. They do not have the numbers such as does ISLAM!! So to hell with those who want to turn away an important ally to victory. Stick to your guns Pamela. Being a supporter of Israel, I have no fear of a nazi ever being of consequence again except to use as a common ally against an enemy with Satan embrossed on their heads. Keep going pamela

Surak

I am not comforted by the presence of Roger Scruton; quite the contrary. I used to admire him, as a fluent expositor of Kant's philosophy, and an excellent writer on philosophy and Western civilization in general. I was dismayed, however, to read his commentary in "The West and the Rest", written right after 9/11, where he complained about Israel's treatment of the Palestinian-Arabs (you know, building them hospitals and schools, raising their education, income and life expectancy). Indeed, I believe he questioned at one point the legitimacy of Israel's existence. I reply by questioning the legitimacy of the United Kingdom's existence. I don't know how we can recruit people into a war against one of the most bigoted forces in world history by allying ourselves with other bigots. At a time when Israel is being threatened by annihilation, the thought of people like Scruton playing the same role as people like Heidegger or Nietzsche did is sickening. Ms. Geller, people like him wouldn't shed a tear over Israel's demise, my demise or your demise.

Stogie

Pamela,

I have been following and commenting on the posts at LGF, and I do agree that many people tend to jump to conclusions about the Celtic Cross and its meaning. However, that bookcase cross in the VB video does appear to be a white supremacist symbol.

The message of the film is quite reasonable (I can read the French subtitles)- that Turkish immigration into Europe should be restricted.

If you are correct about VB supporting Israel, that would be a strong refutation of their alleged Nazi sentiments.

I would like to see VB explain the use of the Celtic Cross in that video and I would like to see them publicly repudiate the White Power movement. If they would do that, it would be very convincing to me that they are on the level and worthy of our support.

By the way, your examples of Celtic Crosses in Christian churches here in America was a very strong argument that such symbols should not automatically be considered racist symbols. The thing to remember here is this: think critically, weigh all the evidence, and don't jump to premature conclusions - about VB or anything else.

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