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Islamist Website Hosted in Minnesota Features Discussion on How to Attack U.S. Military Bases MEMRI

On September 3, 2007, the Islamist website www.ekhlaas.cc, which is hosted by SiteGenie LLC in Rochester, Minnesota, featured a discussion on ways to attack U.S. military bases. The discussion, which took place on a forum on the website, focused mainly on bases located in open terrain, e.g., in the desert, which the forum participants characterized as particularly difficult to approach without being detected. Some of the postings were accompanied by diagrams of military bases showing various plans and angles of attack (as in the image below).

The following are excerpts from one of the postings: [1]

"A [military] base located in the [open] desert is more difficult to attack than one located on a mountain... [or] in a city... because a base [located] inside a city is surrounded by many buildings that the mujahideen can utilize... In the desert... on the other hand... there is no place to hide... How then can one attack such a base, especially considering that these bases... are protected by ordinary, thermal and infrared cameras?... Another point to consider is that [bases are surrounded] by an exposed space that is [constantly] watched... Anyone entering [this area] is immediately asked for an... entry code and password... and if the invader ignores the requests [to identify himself]... and continues to approach, the guards... take position and wait... If the invader enters the inner domain [i.e., the base itself], they immediately open fire... If he stops before entering the base... he may be taken for questioning, and information may be extracted from him by force. [In some cases] this peripheral zone is monitored by radar..."

"Furthermore, when the enemies of God set up a base or a checkpoint, they identify the various locations [overlooking the base] from which long-range or short-range mortars can be fired [at them]... [Then] they cover these locations with mortar[-launchers of their own]... If a mujahid shells the base, the enemies of God... fire indiscriminately at all these locations simultaneously."

"Furthermore... bases... are not surrounded by a wall, but by a fence topped with barbed wire. The buildings [inside the base]... are built far from the fence. The space separating the buildings from the fence is equal to two streets in breadth... Some bases are [also] surrounded by a minefield, and all have several watch towers."

"It is important to have a clear idea of the purpose of the operation. We must ask ourselves... why we are attacking this [particular] base. Obviously [we are attacking it]... because it is an enemy base... [but we must identify] the exact target we want to hit once we penetrate the [perimeter] fences... [We must also determine whether the goal is] to penetrate the base headquarters in order to seize documents... or to capture a high rank commander... free prisoners... capture ammunition... or seize vehicles.

Read it all. Welcome to the new America (what's left of it anyway.)

Comments

[Shy Guy]

Pamela, the answer to this entry's title question is "not any more"!

[john jay]

pamela:

your anger is well placed, that this should be published on a website based in minnesota, usa.

there is a "bright" side to this, however, and it is the inescapable conclusion that the harebrained idiot who drew up this "plan" is not going to be in the attacking u.s. bases business for very long.

a 4 year old might have done better.

the "plan," reduced to its basics, consists of "driving pickups real fast through the fence," from across open terrain.

i might suggest that the reason no such plan has ever been carried into good operational effect (at least not that i know of, and not anywhere where they stand guard) is that it is suicidally doomed to failure.

you might notice that the base appeared to be unarmed and undefended, with no guard or observation towers, and no hard points for humvee's with ma deuces or bradley fighting vehicles, no hard points for mortar fire (though the "possibility" of that was mentioned.)

well, first mistake.

any such base would be defended, and all the firepower defending it would be "zeroed" in to all kinds of firepoints, and anyone approaching such a base would be subject to withering fire. all aspects of terrain that might provide cover for an advancing enemy would be covered. the ma deuce and .30 caliber machine guns have effective fire out to 1500 yds or so: i don't know about you, but i would not want to be skittering around in a toyota exposed to browning .50 machine gun fire for the time it would take to get close to a base, and keep in mind, the closer you get, the easier you are to hit.

second mistake.

and, finally, would you like to be the fellows who would be riding in the pickup with the big piece of plate steel to be leaned against a fence, so that a pickup could be used to knock the fence down? how would one put it in place, with the plate steel crane, brought along for the occasion.

third mistake.

finally, the little chart showing the outline of the base and the arrows pointing to attack points, was hardly the product of genius.

nah, this was not a competent "plan" that might be used as a template to attack u.s. military posts: at its best, this is fancy.

at its worst, this "plan" is the product of idiocy.

fourth mistake.

and, if this is the best that the muzzies can come up with, it is most reassuring from the standpoint of the safety of our troops.

no attacker in such a foolhardy harebrained scheme like this would live to touch a fence, let alone breach it, assuming a based manned by disciplined and alert troops.

this plan is a fine and spectacular way to die, if those are your druthers as a jihadi, but no harm inflicted by it would be other than accidental.

john jay

[Kristopher]

That nonsense can only work in victim disarmament zones in "blue" America. In the rest of the country, the final step to their jihad plans is:

"Then die as the neighbors show up with rifles and sluice us down with bullets."

This was the final step at the school in Beslan, Russia, once they started killing hostages. The Russian army only got one prisoner out to interrogate ... they had to sneak him out in an APC.