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Thursday, July 12, 2007

Blogger Interview with Tony Snow: Iraq

Joining me this afternoon to discuss the facts on the ground in Iraq was was Paul Mirengoff at Powerline, Lorrie Byrd over at Wizbang , NZ Bear Truth Laid Bear Ben from The Hill, Fausta,  National Review, Tom Bevan over at  Real Clear Politics, Rob over at Red State, Brian Weekly Standard for all.
Clearly the biggest problem the White House faces is communicating to the American people the advances and headway we are making in Iraq despite a mainstream media aligned with the terrorist force. But Snow made it clear we were in it to win and that was a mighty great thing to hear.

Listen to the audio here (run time 40 minutes): Download tonysnow712.mp3

The White House  received the interim report looking at the state of affairs in Iraq."The whole purpose of the surge on the military side is to create enough stability and security so that there will be maneuvering room for the Iraqi government to be able to deal with sectarian tensions and regional tensions so that they can get about the business of doing political reconciliation and accommodation and passing a whole series of laws that not only going to build confidence but capability in the Iraqi government. But the military piece comes first....... Once you've done that you have the prospect of doing political success.

"Today's report indicates that the has been significant progress on the military front.
Military piece comes from first, you have got to go after the source of violence and military instability................. In this particular surge Political progress is not the leading indicator it is the  lagging indicator............. today's report indicates that the has been significant progress on the military front..3 brigades into Baghdad. Significant  decreases in violence............ Fairly remarkable turnaround in Anbar." Tribal chiefs had to make a choice  - alqaeda or the allied forces.     And so al qaeda has suffered significant damage.
"The purpose of benchmarks is not to find some political reason  for leaving Iraq it is trying to come up with a framework for seceding in Iraq." Today the good news is on the security front there is significant progress, on the political front it's a mixed bag."

On the economic side, the  Iraqis are stepping up..........

Ward asks, why is the motivation for Republicans that are  defecting. Is it a framework for re-election. Tony was not going to try to interpret the motives of members of Congress.

Snow: "What is necessary in the next few months is a surge of facts ." (Yeah that's me in the background going yay!) A surge of true events on what is going on in Iraq today.

Snow: We will present good news and bad news but all that's been presented is bad news , it's a miracle that anybody supports the war based on the characterizations have been painted."
There's some real evil going on there. Americans need  to get a sense of the kind of evil going on there. Humiliating Arabs and Muslims ...........slaughtering men women and children." Michael Yon's work bears hat out.

The concern is getting the word out to the American people so I asked why they didn't have bloggers at the White House press conferences and help to build this alternative highway to new media. In short, Snow said, because there are exactly 49 seats in the White House press room and the people that have those seats paid  two million dollars for them.  NEXT!

Tony Snow was emphatic that bloggers were very important in this fight. I followed up the question asking why the war was positioned as a separate issue when in fact it was very much a piece of the war on the global jihad.

He said, we need to plant a seed of freedom, it can have a profound effect. If we leave, al qaeda moves right in and has access to Iraq's wealth. It immediately becomes a destabilizing factor in the region. Surrounding nations will recalibrate their security plans ......  probably minimizing Americans role and maximizing dealing with al qaeda and iran. That is not good. Then it starts to emanate outward to Afghanistan, Pakistan ..........India. The thought that you walk away and the world suddenly becomes peaceful is wrong.

Snow said the only image Americans have of the war are caskets or people getting shot on the street.
Iraqis are taking 3 to 4 amount of casualties are we are.
Wizbang discussed politicians hedging and
Tom RCP - political poll on the party.

I did ask  if the Navy pulling back in Persian Gulf emboldened Iran and decreased the pressure on them to stop interfering (and killing our soldiers.). He stated emphatically now, that "there were other means to pressuring Iran" but he was not at liberty to say.

I also asked him why Al Sadr was still alive (which met with knowing laughter) and Snow said we do not engage in assassinations. (If  Al Sadr doesn't deserve a bullt, then who in my humble estimatiion.)

There's a lot to listen to, download it.

Fausta has a good recap here. Here's the Initial Benchmark Assessment Report on the surge, and the transcript of the President's press conference this morning.

Others in the call:
Lori Byrd of Wizbang, Red State, Rob Bluey, Military.com , ThreatsWatch, The Hill Congress Blog
The Weekly Standard's blog.

UPDATE: House Republicans remained united on the Iraq vote today – with MORE Democrats voting against than Republicans voting FOR. 

Even Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-MD) admitted that the Democrats’ bill was a political charade, telling reporters yesterday that Democrats had to bring the bill to the floor to pacify antiwar groups:  “If we don't do anything, these groups will feel like we haven't done anything.

Several key facts:

  • The bill passed by a vote of 223-201.
  • More Democrats voted AGAINST the bill than Republicans voted FOR it.
  • 10 Democrats voted against the measure; just 4 Republicans voted for it.

5 of the Democrats who voted against the bill are from Chairman Skelton’s own committee – the House Armed Services Committee (Reps. Boren, Ellsworth, Marshall, and two subcommittee chairs, Reps. Snyder & Taylor)

Full vote breakdown at this link:  http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2007/roll425.xml

 

 

FINAL VOTE RESULTS FOR ROLL CALL 624

(Democrats in roman; Republicans in italic; Independents underlined)


      H R 2956      YEA-AND-NAY      12-Jul-2007      6:13 PM
      QUESTION:  On Passage
      BILL TITLE: Responsible Redeployment from Iraq Act

Yeas

Nays

PRES

NV

Democratic

219

10

2

Republican

4

191

6

Independent

TOTALS

223

201

 

8

 

---- YEAS    223 ---

 

Abercrombie
Ackerman
Allen
Altmire
Andrews
Arcuri
Baca
Baird
Baldwin
Bean
Becerra
Berman
Berry
Bishop (GA)
Bishop (NY)
Blumenauer
Boswell
Boucher
Boyd (FL)
Boyda (KS)
Brady (PA)
Braley (IA)
Brown, Corrine
Butterfield
Capps
Capuano
Cardoza
Carnahan
Carson
Castor
Chandler
Clarke
Clay
Cleaver
Clyburn
Cohen
Cooper
Costa
Costello
Courtney
Cramer
Crowley
Cuellar
Cummings
Davis (AL)
Davis (CA)
Davis (IL)
Davis, Lincoln
DeFazio
DeGette
Delahunt
DeLauro
Dicks
Dingell
Doggett
Donnelly
Doyle
Duncan
Edwards
Ellison
Emanuel
Emerson
Engel
Eshoo
Etheridge
Farr
Fattah
Filner
Frank (MA)
Giffords
Gilchrest
Gillibrand
Gonzalez
Gordon
Green, Al

Green, Gene
Grijalva
Gutierrez
Hall (NY)
Hare
Harman
Hastings (FL)
Herseth Sandlin
Higgins
Hill
Hinchey
Hinojosa
Hirono
Hodes
Holt
Honda
Hooley
Hoyer
Inslee
Israel
Jackson (IL)
Jackson-Lee (TX)
Jefferson
Johnson (GA)
Johnson, E. B.
Jones (NC)
Jones (OH)
Kagen
Kanjorski
Kaptur
Kennedy
Kildee
Kilpatrick
Kind
Klein (FL)
Lampson
Langevin
Lantos
Larsen (WA)
Larson (CT)
Lee
Levin
Lewis (GA)
Lipinski
Loebsack
Lofgren, Zoe
Lowey
Lynch
Mahoney (FL)
Maloney (NY)
Markey
Matsui
McCarthy (NY)
McCollum (MN)
McDermott
McGovern
McIntyre
McNerney
McNulty
Meek (FL)
Meeks (NY)
Melancon
Michaud
Miller (NC)
Miller, George
Mitchell
Mollohan
Moore (KS)
Moore (WI)
Moran (VA)
Murphy (CT)
Murphy, Patrick
Murtha
Nadler
Napolitano

Neal (MA)
Oberstar
Obey
Olver
Ortiz
Pallone
Pascrell
Pastor
Payne
Pelosi
Perlmutter
Peterson (MN)
Pomeroy
Price (NC)
Rahall
Rangel
Reyes
Rodriguez
Ross
Rothman
Roybal-Allard
Ruppersberger
Rush
Ryan (OH)
Salazar
Sánchez, Linda T.
Sanchez, Loretta
Sarbanes
Schakowsky
Schiff
Schwartz
Scott (GA)
Scott (VA)
Serrano
Sestak
Shea-Porter
Sherman
Shuler
Sires
Skelton
Slaughter
Smith (WA)
Solis
Space
Spratt
Stark
Stupak
Sutton
Tanner
Tauscher
Thompson (CA)
Thompson (MS)
Tierney
Towns
Udall (CO)
Udall (NM)
Van Hollen
Velázquez
Visclosky
Walz (MN)
Wasserman Schultz
Waters
Watson
Watt
Waxman
Weiner
Welch (VT)
Wexler
Wilson (OH)
Woolsey
Wu
Wynn
Yarmuth

 

---- NAYS    201 ---

 

Aderholt
Akin
Alexander
Bachmann
Bachus
Baker
Barrett (SC)
Barrow
Bartlett (MD)
Barton (TX)
Biggert
Bilbray
Bilirakis
Bishop (UT)
Blackburn
Blunt
Boehner
Bonner
Bono
Boozman
Boren
Boustany
Brady (TX)
Brown (SC)
Brown-Waite, Ginny
Buchanan
Burgess
Burton (IN)
Buyer
Calvert
Camp (MI)
Campbell (CA)
Cannon
Cantor
Capito
Carney
Carter
Castle
Chabot
Coble
Cole (OK)
Conaway
Crenshaw
Culberson
Davis (KY)
Davis, David
Davis, Tom
Deal (GA)
Dent
Diaz-Balart, L.
Diaz-Balart, M.
Doolittle
Drake
Dreier
Ehlers
Ellsworth
English (PA)
Everett
Fallin
Feeney
Ferguson
Flake
Forbes
Fortenberry
Fossella
Foxx
Franks (AZ)

Frelinghuysen
Gallegly
Garrett (NJ)
Gerlach
Gillmor
Gingrey
Gohmert
Goode
Goodlatte
Granger
Graves
Hall (TX)
Hastert
Hastings (WA)
Hayes
Heller
Hensarling
Herger
Hobson
Hoekstra
Holden
Hulshof
Hunter
Inglis (SC)
Issa
Johnson (IL)
Johnson, Sam
Jordan
Keller
King (IA)
King (NY)
Kingston
Kirk
Kline (MN)
Knollenberg
Kucinich
Kuhl (NY)
LaHood
Lamborn
Latham
LaTourette
Lewis (CA)
Lewis (KY)
Linder
LoBiondo
Lucas
Lungren, Daniel E.
Mack
Manzullo
Marchant
Marshall
Matheson

McCarthy (CA)
McCaul (TX)
McCotter
McCrery
McHenry
McHugh
McKeon
McMorris Rodgers
Mica
Miller (FL)
Miller (MI)
Miller, Gary
Moran (KS)
Murphy, Tim
Musgrave

Myrick
Neugebauer
Nunes
Pearce
Pence
Peterson (PA)
Petri
Pickering
Pitts
Platts
Poe
Porter
Price (GA)
Pryce (OH)
Putnam
Radanovich
Ramstad
Regula
Rehberg
Reichert
Renzi
Reynolds
Rogers (AL)
Rogers (KY)
Rogers (MI)
Rohrabacher
Ros-Lehtinen
Roskam
Royce
Ryan (WI)
Sali
Saxton
Schmidt
Sensenbrenner
Sessions
Shadegg
Shays
Shimkus
Shuster
Simpson
Smith (NE)
Smith (NJ)
Smith (TX)
Snyder
Souder
Stearns
Sullivan
Taylor
Terry
Thornberry
Tiahrt
Tiberi
Turner
Upton
Walberg
Walden (OR)
Walsh (NY)
Wamp
Weldon (FL)
Weller
Westmoreland
Whitfield
Wicker
Wilson (NM)
Wilson (SC)
Wolf
Young (FL)

 

---- NOT VOTING    8 ---

 

Berkley
Conyers
Cubin

Davis, Jo Ann
Jindal
Paul

Tancredo
Young (AK)

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Tony Snow is the American version of Baghdad Bob. His tortured logic becomes more comical every day. I find it interesting (and telling) that he was one of the first to publicly doubt that Bush was up to the job, yet readily sold his soul when offered the job. Scott McClellan was bad, but I think he honestly believed the words he spoke. Tony is perfectly aware that he is lying, aware that he is helping destroy our democracy, aware that this administration is the biggest enemy we face today, perhaps ever. But the pay is good and he gets his name in lights. You may disagree with my assesment, but you can't deny that he changed his opinion about the President and the war when he was offered the job. He has no integrity. Pathetic waste of protoplasm.

Atlas, This is terrific! I'm glad the WH is acknowledging the vital role played by bloggers and reaching out for ideas. The bloggers are the heart of the battle. Bless all on the conference call. You asked the questions I would have asked, especially about the fat boy in Baghdad -- or Iran or wherever the hell he is today.

Let me edit just a bit ... the military are our most shining heroes -- and their families. But conservative bloggers don't do it for love or money; they do what they do because of their deep love for their country and its citizens and for freedom.

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sorry for posting in your comments here but i couldn't find a place to contact you. i came across this video today that i thought you'd enjoy. it's about a soldier support program called my soldier at manhattanville college in new york.

http://www.scribemedia.org/2007/07/13/my-soldier/

My Soldier takes the classic elements of being a pen pal and adds some modern commodities to make soldiers feel more at home, wherever they are.

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