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Eli Lake (did you hear my previous interview with him here?) breaks this nonsensical, suicidal development in today's NY Sun. Hat tip Andrew Bostom. No more excuses, Bush is a complete moron if he does this.

Bush Weighs Reaching Out To ‘Brothers'
By ELI LAKE

WASHINGTON — The Bush administration is quietly weighing the prospect of reaching out to the party that founded modern political Islam, the Muslim Brotherhood.

Still in its early stages and below the radar, the current American deliberations and diplomacy with the organization, known in Arabic as Ikhwan, take on new significance in light of Hamas's successful coup in Gaza last week. The Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood is widely reported to have helped create Hamas in 1982.

Today the State Department's Bureau of Intelligence and Research will host a meeting with other representatives of the intelligence community to discuss opening more formal channels to the brothers. Earlier this year, the National Intelligence Council received a paper it had commissioned on the history of the Muslim Brotherhood by a scholar at the Nixon Center, Robert Leiken, who is invited to the State Department meeting today to present the case for engagement. On April 7, congressional leaders such as Rep. Steny Hoyer of Maryland, the Democratic whip, attended a reception where some representatives of the brothers were present. The reception was hosted at the residence in Cairo of the American ambassador to Egypt, Francis Ricciardone, a decision that indicates a change in policy.

The National Security Council and State Department already meet indirectly with the Syrian Muslim Brotherhood through discussions with a new Syrian opposition group created in 2006 known as the National Salvation Front. Meanwhile, Iraq's vice president, Tariq al-Hashemi, is a leader of Iraq's chapter of the Muslim Brotherhood. His party, known as the Iraqi Islamic Party, has played a role in the Iraqi government since it was invited to join the Iraqi Governing Council in 2003.

These developments, in light of Hamas's control of Gaza, suggest that President Bush — who has been careful to distinguish the war on terror from a war on Islam — has done more than any of his predecessors to accept the movement fighting for the merger of mosque and state in the Middle East.

Please read it all.

The Bush Doctrine: (thanks Mega)

"You are either with us, or you are with the terrorists, or, you can can be with whomever you want and we'll eventually come to negotiate, and if the negotiations don't work out, we'll just give you whatever you want, including, but not limited to, advanced weapons which you will undoubtedly use to kill Americans and Israelis."

UPDATE: CUANAS articulates the New Bush Doctrine. Read it and convert;

The Bush Doctrine: The Restoration Of The Caliphate? Infidel Bloggers Alliance  

It looks like that is turning out to be the plan. First, there is this from Epaminondas (in greater length a few posts down):

WASHINGTON -- The Bush administration plans to involve Iran in its exit strategy for Iraq and has decided not to strike Iran's nuclear facilities. Administration sources said President Bush has decided that barring a "catastrophic development," the United States would not attack Iran.

The sources said the administration has been conveying the decision to U.S. allies in the Middle East. "The United States has decided that Iran's cooperation was needed for a withdrawal from Iraq," an administration source said.

Read it all.

UPDATE: CRAP! hat tip Rick Richman

FROM THE FRYING PAN INTO THE FIRE: Marty Peretz TNR

"Brothers," my foot. The debut of Osama bin Laden and his Al Qaeda ideological warriors has put a lot of intellectually unemployed people to work. They may not know Arabic. But they think they know realpolitik.

Here is a frighteningly detailed story by Eli Lake about a plan floating around Washington for the Bush administration to negotiate with the Muslim Brotherhood. Just watch: it'll be the same old crap about finding common ground with moderates... who are actually extremists. This plan envisions the Brothers either kicking Hamas under the table to behave or kicking Hamas in the face to quit. It will do neither.

My friend Bob Leiken, from whom I learned a lot about Cuba and Nicaragua (his old Contra comrade Arturito Cruz is now Sandinista Commandante Daniel Ortega's emissary in Washington)... well, maybe I didn't learn enough. Let me try again: my friend Bob Leiken seems to be the fount of this big new idea. I know, Bob, that you speak Spanish, very well, having been a revolutionary in Mexico and a counter-revolutionary elsewhere among the Latins. But do you know Arabic?

 

Comments

[Mega]

The Bush Doctrine:

"You are either with us, or you are with the terrorists, or, you can can be with whomever you want and we'll eventually come to negotiate, and if the negotiations don't work out, we'll just give you whatever you want, including, but not limited to, advanced weapons which you will undoubtedly use to kill Americans and Israelis."

[Miluimnik]

In the run-up to the invasion of Iraq (and the planned installation of a Shia government,,really a loose coalition of Iranian backed Shia militias) government in Baghdad......the Administration demanded that Egypt lay off the Brotherhood (and Jihad Islami, so as not to complicate the war effort.

That was an "Olive branch" to the Brotherhood.

[allat]

'Bush is a complete moron if he does this.

And if he doesn't, then he's your great hero again?

I've got news: The government centralized - at this point in time- is NOT addressing the news of local communities. THe government had got to be DE- centralized - NOW - because it has been twisted completely out of shape - from the INTENTIONS of the Founders. It's no longer working.

I've been saying around that the government has got to be JUST like the children's game COPS & ROBBERS - able to turn and change, be very flexible at a moment's notice.

-Government at Local Community Level at normal times
- Temporary Centralization at times of emergencies, in particular in times of external events.

-Then, to back to Local Communities.

The problem was there, but was glaringly clear at the time of Katrina.

The gov. is NOT working in re. to EVERY SINGLE ISSUE of today. You name it - they're NOT functioning by the will of We, The People. Instead, it's going by the wishes of foreign governments - I don't care whether it's Israel, China, India, England or some other country in Latin America.

[Harcourt Fenton]

Read my lips, "No Flip Flopping."

Apparently President Bush has now accepted the "Carter Doctrine". Dhimmi Carter . . . now there was a man who really knew how to strike fear into the heart of Iran!!

[Mega]

"The government centralized - at this point in time- is NOT addressing the news of local communities. THe government had got to be DE- centralized"

I can't think of a more irrelevant issue in this age of fending off the global Jihad than whether our government is striking the perfect balance of federalism, community decision making, etc. The Founders did not have to deal with a global network of armed thugs flying planes into our buildings, and racing toward nuclear weapons, which they will use, to kill hundreds of thousands of people.

There are two, and only two, issues that matter today, and these will be the only two issues that matter for the next few decades:

- Do we, as a people, have the ability at this point to get over and get past the crippling weaknesses of political correctness, multiculturalism, and the guilt of the successful, so that we can all get on the same page about the nature and extent of the mortal threat we face? Or are we just going to argue amongst ourselves about irrelevant issues until we and our cultural history have been destroyed?

- Assuming we ever manage to stop dancing around the issue, with euphamisms like "War on terror": Do we, as a people, have the stomach, will, attention span, and stick-to-it-iveness needed to fight through to a successful conclusion against a growing, global network of well-armed, motivated, exceptionally violent thugs who are going to keep trying to murder all of us unless and until they either win or lose?

Next to these issues of honestly indentifying the threat, and being willing to deal with it bravely, who gives a fuck about Katrina, community government, or anything else.

I have to be here, alive, living in a peaceful place that is not under attack, for any of your issues to matter.

-Mega

[wxjames]

Our problem stems from unfair and obscure campaigning and campaign funding. We get nothing but a constant stream of egocentric nitwits interested in padding their future at the expense of the taxpayers. I frequent some right wing blogs who are 100 percent behind Fred Thompson and for what reason ? Fred never did anything to stand out, but as an actor, he did have some great moments, so they have become blind followers of the great Fred. This is the kind of crap that keeps us from high quality leadership. The press plays it's evil role without concern for facts, or quality. We have a moral quagmire betweeen playing gotcha and writing actual good material. The agenda defines their morals, so they need not desire to excel or create, just fill pages with party dogma ad nauseum, while they conveniently ignore their fast decline. Madness and lunacy playing the part of human beings everywhere. Universities that teach not to think, and institutions that hire their graduates and move them to the top decision making posts, and wonder why their bottom line suffers. Madness and lunacy everywhere.

[Gary]

Good God.

The entire reason for the existence of the MB is to bring islam / sharia law, to the entire planet.

I have a bad feeling about the next 10 years.

[allat]

Mega: How 'bout if I delete my comment because you think it's irrelevant? Will that make you happy?

Ok, consider it deleted.

Have a good evening.

[allat]

I'm giving valid information - even if it's off topic.

But I must remember to check with others for their approval,the next time I post.

Ain't that something?

[allat]

I'm giving valid information - even if it's off topic.

But I must remember to check with others for their approval,the next time I post.

Ain't that something?

[Mega]

allat, it would make me very unhappy if you delete a comment because somebody didn't like it. (Not that we have delete capability here, but anyway..) Speak your mind! As will I. If my mind doesn't agree with yours, I'll say so. That's what must be defended: freedom to speak, which includes freedom to disagree and even freedom to ridicule. There aren't too many places in the world where one can still do that. Let's take advantage of it while it lasts. So, don't be insulted or taken aback - instead, revel in the chaotic freedom that a message board spat brings about. It's fundamentally...American.

I personally think worrying about domestic governmental and bureaucratic issues is stupid, given the threats we face. That's just the politics of extravagance, in my mind - the stuff that societies bog down in when they have so much money, luxuries, material goods, chicks, property, and leisure time that there's nothing better to worry about than local politics or bureucratic waste or any of a thousand other piddling matters. At various points in time, history on a grand scale is being made, and people must adapt, by clearing their heads of the backlog of meaningless nonsense with which they've become accustomed to keeping themselves busy. We are in such a time. History is being made, right now. This historical era will be known in decades and centuries to come as the time in which Islam regrouped after that setback in Vienna and restarted their mission of global annihiliation and conquest. The only question is, will those history books be written in English or in Arabic. It's so much less certain that the future history books will be in English than it used to be, but that just has not sunk in yet in the American mind.

One billion people on this planet are gradually turning like little metal filings toward a giant Jihad magnet, and we better be prepared and stop fussing over the small stuff so we can join the battle. It's gonna get ugly, and the time is a'comin when we're going to have to turn off our iPods, ignore Paris Hilton for a while, stop watching videos of cats falling off fences on youtube, and put aside the petty political differences on issues which don't really matter, and regroup as a society to defend the ideas and history that our culture has spend the past few thousand years creating and refining.

[Jeremy]

If Bush is doing what I think he's doing this is yet another stoke of pure genius. It appears to me that he's making outlandish plans to set things up that nobody in their right mind will support. When he does this it gives all the presidential incumbents (and other politicians) the opportunity to distance themselves from "Dubya". What else could you call immigration bill?

He's being stupid for the betterment of America.

[wxjames]

Jeremy, your glass is half full.
I view our 'leaders' as in an advanced state of denial. Only Bolton among them knew the real score, and what did they do to him ? That should tell us something, no ? As we enter a unique time during which we can choose a leader for our pending war against Islam, the media asks once again about Rudy's position on abortion. As Mega points out, when we should focus on the ideas and history our culture has spent years refining, I realize that like dried fruit on the tree, we have passed our virility on the issues of survival, and now we must shake from our sleep to respond against almost universal apathy. Those that still can, will, but will they have the numbers to fight the good fight ?

[JCL154]

WTF is wrong with the people in DC? Don't they have any common sense? It is becoming more pathetic every day.

[Jeremy]

James,
Apparently I forgot my sarcasm tag. Won't happen again:

He's being stupid for the betterment of America.

That better?

[Jeremy]

Damn, it doesn't show sarcasm tags...oh well.