More arrests today in the London train bombings. The wife of a jihadi too. All part of the al-Muhajiiroun network.
Al-Muhajiroun is a group which advocates the control of society based on the rule of a Universal Caliphate, and ruled by Islamic law, the shiara. As a member said "we do not seek to coexist with other religions in America, we seek to dominate them".
"We’d talk about the suffering of the Muslims all over the world," Butt tells Simon. "We were very well-versed in the Koran, in the verses of the Koran, in the sayings of the Prophet and show that how it was permissible for people to go around killing innocent men, women and children."
"You would explain to them why it's permissible to kill innocent men, women and children?" Simon asks.
"Well, a better way to put it is, we would take away the innocence from the person so they were no longer innocent men, women and children," Butt explains.
"So, men, women and children would become non-innocents?" Simon asks.
"Become non-innocent and hence, combatants and allowed to be targeted," Butt says. More here
The al- Muhajiroun network is insidious and international. They are here in Queens, New York, Baltimore Maryland and Cherry Hill, New Jersey. The American people should be as familiar with the term al-Muhajiroun as they are with al-qaeda. There were another four busted in the UK, all al-Muhajiroun. They pose the same mortal threat to us.
More on the Network here (CBS 60 minutes): They could preach hatred, they could recruit followers, they could raise funds,
and they could even call for Jihad – Holy war – as long as they didn’t call for
attacks on British soil. London became such a safe haven for Muslim militants
that it came to be known as "Londonistan."
"Do you think this was an unspoken deal with the establishment? That, do whatever you want here as long as you don't blow us up?" Simon asks Butt.
"Absolutely. I believe that sincerely," Butt tells Simon. "That was an unspoken deal. And as a result of that, what tended to happen is the British government lost count of how many people were going abroad getting trained and coming back and going into operational mode as sleeper cells."
FOUR MORE ARRESTED TODAY
Newsnight has discovered that some of those who were alleged to have helped the men involved in the London bombings and the Crawley plot are still walking the streets of Britain.
Crawley plotters are linked to bomber Mohammed Sidique Khan
During the course of our investigations we confronted two of them on camera. One was a man known as "Q" from Luton. The other was Sajil Shahid whose last known address was in Barking.
Evidence which helped convict the Crawley bombers came from Junaid Babar - a self-confessed terrorist who did a deal after he fell into the hands of the US.
According to his witness statement "Q" sent Mohammed Sidique Khan (MSK) - the leader of the 7/7 bombers - and Omar Khyam - the leader of the Crawley plotters - to Pakistan.
Read it all ......... There is no lack of funds or willing participants and donors here;
He became one of the network’s star fundraisers. Over the next couple of years, he says he raised $300,000.
His biggest contributors? "Doctors. People who were businessmen. Professional people basically who wanted to donate substantial amounts of money," Butt tells Simon.
Butt says he openly told them he was raising funds for Jihad.
And he says he didn’t just solicit from the professional classes: he also targeted criminals, drug dealers who were told that their activities would be cleansed for a percentage of their earnings.
What kind of percentage?
The drug dealers were told the 20 percent would legitimize them in Islamic eyes and that the rest of their income was, in Butt's words, "purified."
"As long as the drugs weren't being sold to other Muslims. They were being sold to non-Muslims. In fact, we saw it as a tactic of war to keep, you know, one of the people that I sat with said, 'Well, let's keep poisoning the non-Muslim community in the West. Let's feed their addiction,'" Butt adds.
"Twenty percent," says Butt.
Hassan Butt was a big time recruiter for Al-Muhajiroun, aka "The Network" in the 60 Minutes piece.