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Friday, May 04, 2007

CAIR Exploits WWII Internment Camps

Why is CAIR making pilgrimages to internment camps? WTF? What do they know that we  don't know? All this hand wringing about intermenny camps. A country does what it has to do to survive when it is under existential threat. The Japanese wanted to take out America, America took no chances. The left cannot bear the thought of America defending herself. Every savage in the world? No apology necessary. Full benefit of the doubt and then some. America? Off with her head!

But what's this bullshit CAIR is pulling down? Do you suppose that after Islamic jihad drops the big one or the giant war starts that the rubber-band is going to boing in America and intern camps might be considered? Think CAIR knows this and is attempting pre-emption (something they deny America.)

CAIR-LA: PILGRIMAGE TO MANZANAR
Munira Syeda, Southern California InFocus, 5/4/07

[Guest writer Munira Syeda, communications coordinator for the Council on American-Islamic Relations, contributed her article after her visit to Manzanar with a group of other California Muslims.]

In February 1942, President Franklin D. Roosevelt issued Executive Order 9066, setting into motion a mass displacement and detainment of an entire community - American men, women and children of Japanese ancestry - less than two months after Japan attacked Pearl Harbor.

Smart!

Of the more than 120,000 Japanese Americans interned at 11 military-style camps scattered throughout the country, not one was charged with espionage or sabotage.

Perhaps the internment camps were an effective deterrent.

The internment of this ethnic group turned out to be one of the darkest moments in United States history. It raised a national debate as well as frustration over suspension of civil liberties during war time. Nearly a half century elapsed before an apology was issued in 1988 by President Ronald Reagan, who said then, "…we must recognize that the internment of Japanese-Americans was just that: a mistake."

A real gentlemen, that Reagan. He didn't see Islamism on this horizon. But he worried that Armageddon was near.

On Saturday, April 28 around 1,000 Americans and members of the California Muslim community made a pilgrimage to Manzanar National Historic Site, in what was called the 38th Annual Manzanar Pilgrimage, to learn about the experiences of Japanese American detainees. Among the visitors was the Southern California Muslim family of Barbara Serhal, whose Japanese American parents were incarcerated at Manzanar. The trip of Muslim community members was coordinated through the Los Angeles Area and Sacramento Valley offices of the Council on American-Islamic Relations known as CAIR

You'd think the Japanese Americans would have more sense than to  let themselves be used as tools by CAIR.

Speakers noted that the Japanese detainees' situation is similar to the current debate surrounding the "War on Terror" amid mounting calls for profiling of American Muslims and Arabs.

The situtations could not be more different.

"It is vital to visit Manzanar and other internment camps, not only for Muslims, but for all Americans especially after Sept. 11, so that people understand that war backlash has happened before," said Andy Noguchi, coordinator of the Florin Japanese American Citizens' League Manzanar Pilgrimage. "It is important to bring a lot of concerned Americans together to spread awareness of what happened to Japanese Americans during World War II and how the Muslim community is now being affected in similar ways." (MORE)

Uh yeah, ok. Is this CAIR's twisted way of acknowledging America is under mortal threat now frm Islam as then from Japan?

FROM JAPAN GUIDE: During the 1930s, the military established almost complete control over the government. Many political enemies were assassinated, and communists persecuted. Indoctrination and censorship in education and media were further intensified.

Sure sounds like Islamism

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During WWII, certain Germans and Italians were also put into camps, just not as many as Japanese. Remember, Germans and Italians were also enemies of the state, and America took few chances. On the other side of the blotter, ALL Americans were put into camps by the Germans and Japanese, where many died. Most died if they were in Japanese camps. Damn few died in American camps for Japanese, and those usually of old age or infirmity. The Japanese, like the Islamic fascists, either worked or starved their captives to death or beheaded them. Sound familiar?

Ask the hundreds of thousands of Americans, New Zealanders, British, Malayans, Burmese, Indians, Indonesians, Chinese and Koreans who were killed by the Japanese. See if they thought their way of life was threatened by the Greater East Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere. Oh, that's right. You can't. They're dead.

During WWII, German and Italian nationals -- a few thousand in number -- were interned by the US. As far as I am aware, none of these internees were residents of the US. Regardless, there is no possible way to equate those actions with the evacuation and detention of 120,000 civilians, two-thirds of whom were citizens born in the US and the rest of whom were regarded as traitors by the Japanese government for having left in the first place.

Before you start spouting off about those who "exploit" history, you should actually take some care to get the history right in the first place. This might require reading some actual historical work, rather than reproducing thoughtless summaries of Malkin's thesis.

This is pre-emptive victim posturing, to make Americans feel guilty in advance before there is any real dialogue about locking these people up.

It has the benefit of making Americans feel generally culpable and guilty and thus more malleable and manageable.

Using the victim's goodness against them. That's the style babe! Pure distilled evil.

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I dare say that mohammedan treason and fifth column activity dwarfs that of the WWII period Japanese, German and Italian Americans by orders of magnitude.

And it is to protect this fifth column that they act.

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Smart move. Sick, disgusting and repulsive. But smart.

CAIR--ever promoting the victimology mindset.

Using as propaganda tools Rosa Parks, internment camps. What next?

CAIR is using the logic fallacy "appeal to the people," not that far removed from ad hominem attacks.

It's also worth noting here how few official members CAIR has. Yet, CAIR claims to represent American Muslims. Hmmmm.....

Now, if CAIR's membership rolls truly reflect the numbers, where is the funding for CAIR coming from?

I would think a member of the Jewish faith would be a little more circumspect in the use of concentration camps, Pamela, you should be ashamed of yourself. But of course! You have no shame.

First Love your blog. I prob agree with you and your insight about 80 percent of the time. Since I took the time to sign up I look forward to commenting on it in the future. That being said I hate to go negative on my first comment but oh well

THe Japanese Internment camps were Unconst stop. The Japanese camps were largely motivated by hysteria stop. The Japanese Camps were a sorry blight on our history Full stop.

They were in no way "smart". Any effort to say that they were not only gives ammon for those that are using this but quite frankly scare me. As a Conservative I can not justify them. The fact is there were far more German and Italian Americans here than Japanese Americans. The Japanese got put into camps partly because of their low numbers and American rage. At the end of the day Americans that committed no crime were put into these camps. That evil cannot be justifyed. If we start thinking that in any way is ok then the extremist have won.

I ahve done a fair amount of research on this when I was in college and was not going in with a lot of preconcieved notions.

Anywho that is my thoughts
JH
Louisiana

Native-born American citizens of Japanese ancestry were interned as presumptive traitors. In spite of this provocation, not one of them actually turned traitor.

While I yield to no-one in my admiration for the patriotism and high morals of Americans who practice Islam, I'm not sure I'm willing to presume that if they were to be treated the same way, they would rise to the standard set by Japanese Americans.

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