Mass Rabbi Arrest: Anti-Iran UN Protest
Yesterday Avi Weiss and the Jewish activist organization he founded, AMCHA: the Coalition for Jewish Concerns, coordinated a civil disobedience protest at the United Nations. You know what happened? Of course you don't, no mention in the media about it. They were arrested. G-d forbid you protest Ahmadinehitler and his promise of annihilation. No mention in the mainstream media of this mast arrest of rabbis. Could you imagine if it was imams they arrested? Holy shia! Why you can't report six belligerent imams screaming "allah akbar" on a US Airways jet without getting sued. I could just see the media wringing their hands had they been Muslims.
To see the teflin and hear the singing (or is that praying?) is to break the heart. The Goblin has got it all here via LGF;
Over 20 Rabbis getting arrested in an act of civil disobedience at the Isaiah wall across from the United Nations. They were protesting the UN's continuing ignorance of Iran's nuclear weapons programs and threats against Israel and the entire world.
I have been to enough protests in NYC to know what an outrage is this.
The worst, most disgusting, antiwar, America haters are giving tremendous respect and space (any dissenters must stay on the opposite side of the street) then you could imagine.
UPDATE: Steg over at The Goblin wrote describing the arrest;
The reason the rabbis were arrested is because it was *pre-planned* that way. getting arrested makes any protest more dramatic, and what they were looking for is publicity. read my description carefully -- the whole thing was pre-orchestrated and agreed-upon by the protesters and the police long before it took place. it was ritualized. nothing sketchy or confrontational about it.
Never mind ........ heh.









Dear Pamela;
This is a good example, I think, of the difference between the Morons, a.k.a. Jew-haters, and the Normals, a.k.a., non Jew-haters. In this instance, the rabbis.
Notice how belligerent the Morons are. Then look how calm the Normals, are.
Also; I agree with the Moron yelling, "long live Palestine". Because the area known as Palestine is where Israel is located. And I want Israel to have a very long life.
And I want the Muslem Arabs living there to go to hell ASAP.
Sincerely;
EJO
Posted by: EJO | Sunday, April 22, 2007 at 08:36 PM
Good for the Rabbis! Rabbi Weiss will have some effect, at least a psychological one. The stuffed shirt, anti-Semites at the U.N. must've gotten a little suprise from the Rabbis.
"There's no need to fear; Underzog is here!"
Posted by: Underzog | Sunday, April 22, 2007 at 08:57 PM
Keep safe Pamela. The world is turned upside down when a terrorist nation such as the Palestinian state is given more credence than Jewish Rabbis protesting against them. The fool yelling into the mike is an enabler of the murderers of innocent Jews.
You are correct that the anti-semites get the attention from the MSM and the truth sayers are ignored.
Posted by: geo11 | Sunday, April 22, 2007 at 10:39 PM
The Islamo-nazis and their supporters do not just commit evil, they are willfully identified with evil, and they hate anything good. Look at the vile moonbat screaming long live Palestein. You can see the self-satisfied, self-righteousness oozing out of him, and the hatred and evil. Yech! Pamela, please do not spend time close to vile stuff like that.
Posted by: terrence | Sunday, April 22, 2007 at 11:14 PM
Somehow this doesn't remotely surprise me given that Libtard sh*ts were able to deface the capitol steps without so much as a slap on the wrist. I'd personally like to slap them all.
All those code pinko twits lining up outside Nappy Haired Pel-HO-si's office... anyone know if their collectives ass's were arrested? Hmmm???
Good one on the Rabbi's someone needs to wake the Useless Nitwits, uh, sorry, United Nations up.
Posted by: Jenn | Sunday, April 22, 2007 at 11:16 PM
Another brilliant example. Stifling the speech of those who disagree with their politics, yelling slogans with such conviction, belligerence, you name it, I can't help but think of them as "little Brownshirts". I know, the left is obsessed with calling everyone Nazis, but who is stifling who here?
I had far-leftists whose comments read like the tedium of "The New Yorker" denouncing me for not hating Ataturk for killing MY OWN PEOPLE, yet these same commenters will not see the genocidal lust in world leaders today! Only fantasies about Bush being the anti-Christ or something. Ugh, and people wonder why I haunt sites more to the right these days.
Posted by: Lexecon | Sunday, April 22, 2007 at 11:54 PM
First, I want to thank the NYPD for keeping things professional. At least they didn't hang these people like the Iranian police did.
Second, Pamela, your bravery is absolutely remarkable. And such bravery is sweet in its own huggable, kissable, pro-life way.
Third, I'm pretty sure 23 of the NYPD's own died on 9/11 for Pamela's rights and not the rights of the Islamofacists. Namely: The rights of the individual to life and to live life without fear of crime, whether that crime is domestic violence or international terrorism.
Shame on the silent parts of New York City - and frankly all of us - who are not reporting for duty. We are at war with people who treat an entire class of human beings like bugs. A group of people who at best, cheered and at worst were behind a day when Boeing jetliners full of civilians and jet fuel slammed into New York City's two best skyscrapers, which then fell down on innocent civilians and some of America's bravest and finest.
As that supposedly left-wing TV show starring Martin Sheen liked to say: "Decisions are made by those who show up." Maybe it's time to stand up, show up and just say NO to facism.
(It helps when I'm listening to British PM Tony Blair as I write this. In particular, THIS.) BLAIR ON!
Posted by: Josef K | Monday, April 23, 2007 at 12:54 AM
KILL THE JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS! SAVE THE SPOTTED OWLS!
ahhh Mr.looneytoon moonbat
Thanks Atlas I was looking for that clip for a while (the clip of the
Progressive liberalNut job shouting "Death to Zionist swine".)Kudos to the Rabbis who have the guts to stand up to evil! we need that spirit desperately in Israel! 1st. against Iran & 2nd. against PM
OlmertALL-MerdePosted by: Haruv93 | Monday, April 23, 2007 at 07:46 AM
The Rabbis did two things that the UN will never stand for: they protested against anti-semitism (the cornerstone of the modern UN) and they are RELIGIOUS! The only allowed and sanctioned religions are environmentalism and Islam.
The UN and all their vileness needs to be removed from the US. Maybe they can meet instead in Syria or Saudi Arabia? Those two countries will be expected, however, to loosen their laws on prostitution if they want an esteemed group like the UN to setup there. A UN without access to whores? That's offensive!
Posted by: Abu Daboo Doo al Bedrocki | Monday, April 23, 2007 at 09:14 AM
Well, I'll be damned; a large group of Rabbis engaging in a deliberate act of massive civil disobedience were arrested!! Get the hell out of here! Gee, one might even suspect that getting arrested was precisely the point they were trying to make. But that doesn't fit in with the paranoid fantasyland constructed in this filthy cesspool of rightwing propaganda, does it? No; here there's something anti-Semitic about the fact that the police treat a group of Rabbis the same way as they do all other citizens. Because, undoubtedly, this blog was equally up-in-arms when the cops perpetrated illegal, indiscriminate sweeps of citizens protesting the Republican National Convention in 2004, and locked them up in cages contaminated with toxic waste for a couple of days. Right? Naaaaah. After all, we all know that some people are created more equal than others, aren't they? The funny part is that the Rabbis themselves have no problem whatever with being arrested for their act of civil disobedience.
Needless to say, such arrests have nothing whatever to do with anti-Semitism, and no one but the apologists for Republicanism at crap piles like LGF and this dump claim otherwise. Of course, it's highly useful to keep in mind that EIGHTY-SEVEN PERCENT of Jewish voters supported the Democrats in the last election, and that those mindless fanatical Republican Jews who rant and rave at LGF and here are the ignorant, embarrassing dregs of Jewish society.
Posted by: legaleagle | Monday, April 23, 2007 at 11:26 AM
Here are the list of arrested rabbis. To call them "mindless fanatical Republican Jews" and "embarrassing dregs of Jewish society" speaks volumes about the writer of the above comment. Some are Orthodox, some are Conservative. Last weeks' arrests also included Reform Rabbis.
The anti-semitic issue is that the police are NOT treating a group of Rabbis protesting the genocidal comments of the leader of Iran the same way as they would treat, for example, a group of protesters outside of NBC protesting Don Imus' racial comments.
By the way, I don't think this blog was supportive of indiscriminate arrests outside the NYC Republican National Convention. Even so, if you don't recognize the different context of national security concerns that are present in a situation where the secret service is controlling security versus a simple First Amendment protest where the same security concerns are not present, then perhaps you are being biased in your response.
The Arrested Community Leaders
Rabbi Mark Ankcorn, Southwest Orlando Jewish Congregation
Rabbi Moses Birnbaum, President, Long Island Board of Rabbis
Rabbi Steven Burton, Congregation Shaarei Shalom
Rafi Farber, rabbinical student, Yeshivat Chovevei Torah
Rabbi Jeffrey Fox
Rabbi Avidan Freedman, Yeshivat Chovevei Torah
Rabbi Bruce Ginsburg, Congregation Sons of Israel
Ben Greenberg, rabbinical student, Yeshivat Chovevei Torah
Yehuda Hausman, rabbinical student, Yeshivat Chovevai Torah
Rabbi Jason Herman, Congregation Beth Israel/West Side Jewish Center
Rabbi David Kalb, CLAL
Rabbi Pinchas Klein, Mount Freedom Jewish Center, Morasha
Rabbi Aryeh Leifert, Congregation Rodfei Sholom, San Antonio, Texas
Rabbi Ronald Price, Congregation Netivot Sholom, UTJ/Morasha
Glenn Richter, Amcha-Coalition for Jewish Concerns
Rabbi Aaron Rubinger, Congregation Ohev Shalom, Orlando, FL
Ross Shapiro, rabbinical student, Yeshivat Chovevei Torah
Rabbi Uri Topolosky, Hebrew Institute of Riverdale
Rabbi Avi Weiss, Hebrew Institute of Riverdale
Rabbi Akiva David Weiss, Yeshivat Chovevei Torah
Rabbi David Willig, Bayside Jewish Center
Posted by: Harcourt Fenton | Monday, April 23, 2007 at 02:01 PM
Here are the list of arrested rabbis. To call them "mindless fanatical Republican Jews" and "embarrassing dregs of Jewish society" speaks volumes about the writer of the above comment. Some are Orthodox, some are Conservative. Last weeks' arrests also included Reform Rabbis.
The anti-semitic issue is that the police are NOT treating a group of Rabbis protesting the genocidal comments of the leader of Iran the same way as they would treat, for example, a group of protesters outside of NBC protesting Don Imus' racial comments.
By the way, I don't think this blog was supportive of indiscriminate arrests outside the NYC Republican National Convention. Even so, if you don't recognize the different context of national security concerns that are present in a situation where the secret service is controlling security versus a simple First Amendment protest where the same security concerns are not present, then perhaps you are being biased in your response.
The Arrested Community Leaders
Rabbi Mark Ankcorn, Southwest Orlando Jewish Congregation
Rabbi Moses Birnbaum, President, Long Island Board of Rabbis
Rabbi Steven Burton, Congregation Shaarei Shalom
Rafi Farber, rabbinical student, Yeshivat Chovevei Torah
Rabbi Jeffrey Fox
Rabbi Avidan Freedman, Yeshivat Chovevei Torah
Rabbi Bruce Ginsburg, Congregation Sons of Israel
Ben Greenberg, rabbinical student, Yeshivat Chovevei Torah
Yehuda Hausman, rabbinical student, Yeshivat Chovevai Torah
Rabbi Jason Herman, Congregation Beth Israel/West Side Jewish Center
Rabbi David Kalb, CLAL
Rabbi Pinchas Klein, Mount Freedom Jewish Center, Morasha
Rabbi Aryeh Leifert, Congregation Rodfei Sholom, San Antonio, Texas
Rabbi Ronald Price, Congregation Netivot Sholom, UTJ/Morasha
Glenn Richter, Amcha-Coalition for Jewish Concerns
Rabbi Aaron Rubinger, Congregation Ohev Shalom, Orlando, FL
Ross Shapiro, rabbinical student, Yeshivat Chovevei Torah
Rabbi Uri Topolosky, Hebrew Institute of Riverdale
Rabbi Avi Weiss, Hebrew Institute of Riverdale
Rabbi Akiva David Weiss, Yeshivat Chovevei Torah
Rabbi David Willig, Bayside Jewish Center
Posted by: Harcourt Fenton | Monday, April 23, 2007 at 02:11 PM
LegalEagle--so, are any sit-ins or protests which are technically not legal (which is rather the point) off of your list of acceptable ways in which to protest ones' place in society? I'm just wondering, as many peaceful protests of this sort have accomplished equality and expanded rights for many worldwide. Do you similarly denounce the activities of Gandhi? MLK? The Greeks of Smyrna in 1922? Those captives, Jewish and other, who revolted and escaped from Sobibor? War protesters during Vietnam in the US? War protesters NOW? These frequently end up with police run-ins as well, not to mention the infamous WTO protestors.
Do you really oppose "deliberate act(s) of massive civil disobedience", aside from protesting the GOP Convention, or are you just another automoton determined to keep partisan political madness on its destructive route? No, I think you just are another person who is obsessed with LGF, this blog and probably a few others, and have no outlet for your anger other than to call people on anti-jihadi blogs nasty little names.
Read the post. Get the point. The protesters you mention from '04 made the news constantly. I got to see many have their say on TV and other MSM. Pamela's point, appropriately, is the lack of media attention. Frequently when the world looks away, the brutality knows no bounds. Amritsar is remembered now, but it would never had occured at all had the world been focused on India as it is now on the supposed wrongs of the Israelis.
Dang. People like this make me want to go all Amanda Palmer on their butts. Now I'll have to bang away at the piano. Darned Legal Eagles.
Posted by: Lexecon | Tuesday, April 24, 2007 at 03:59 PM
are any sit-ins or protests which are technically not legal (which is rather the point) off of your list of acceptable ways in which to protest ones' place in society?
Absolutely not. I approve of such protests unreservedly, and have no quarrel whatever with every one of the Rabbis and other participants who were involved in this particular demonstration. I disagree with their political views, but fully respect their right to to address their concerns in this manner. Nor are these the fanatical Jewish Republicans to whom I was referring. No, that was directed at the sleazy, dishonest propagandists who mouth the patent idiocy that the Democratic Party and the news media are anti-Semitic, or claim that those who loath Bush and his war of vanity in Iraq seek to undermine Israel's existence. Those aren't arguments, they're propaganda. I have to confess to being dazzled by the mind that could somehow try to distinguish between the rights of those engaged in this "simple First Amendment protest" and those who dare to assemble in the streets for a national political convention. The only "national security" implications of such demonstrations, of course, are the concerns about embarrassing the most criminal, corrupt and manifestly unfit administration ever to set foot in the White House. Thus, we see the authoritarian personality of the followers of Republicanism, for whom servility and obedience are character traits valued above all others. All you have to do is whisper "national security," and the First Amendment is flushed right down the toilet. Most ludicrous is the objection to "name-calling" of the thugs who run sites like LGF. They aren't just propagandists, but perveyors of virulent hate speech. They can whine about it all they want, but they wallow in the sewer of hatred and character assassination every single day; they earn every ounce of the contempt and disgust with which they are regarded.
Posted by: legaleagle | Tuesday, April 24, 2007 at 09:06 PM
Oh Legal, where on earth to start with you? I might ask how much you really disagree with these Rabbis, though I am glad that you are civil enough to stand up for their rights to speech. I must admit, I do find demonstrations (which can get very carried away) in particularly bad taste when it comes to Party Conventions, no matter which party. I could do without 'lifers' running our branches of government myself and wish that we could get past the "silver spoon" representation (again, this applies to both parties).
I don't understand the constant dismissal I have seen lately, on the web especially, of alarmed reports of Jews being anything from arrested to murdered worldwide with little media coverage. People should be alarmed at this, and furthermore all bloggers have particular angles and issues that take a priority. If I were Jewish and only a few generations from the Holocaust, I would be alarmed as can be over these crimes, outraged by the lack of media attention (see Ilan Halimi), and rather worried that the hammer was about to fall again. The angsty fool in the 2nd video is the type who alarms me, but rather than shut him up, I'm glad that he has been broadcast at least here. HIS intent is to take away speech rights of others, or at least seemed the type.
I can't help but notice that your entire response is laced with you OWN rhetoric, your own propaganda snippits against the GOP and the current administration. That's fine, but rather contradictory in a comment that mentions "Thus, we see the authoritarian personality of the followers of Republicanism, for whom servility and obedience are character traits valued above all others." Your own obedience to the leftist dogmatic hatred and party line regarding Bush and his "war of vanity in Iraq", "the concerns about embarrassing the most criminal, corrupt and manifestly unfit administration ever to set foot in the White House" and such cannot even be hidden in a response.
What alarms ME in particular about the latter part of your comment is this dreadful trend popping up yet again regarding "hate speech". I see now, rather plainly, that certain elements in this country are determined to give lip service to the 1st Amendment, yet seek to define certain speech as crossing some line, sending it undeservedly down the same path as yelling fire in a crowded theater. Certainly certain blogs such as LGF are news and propaganda, but "hate speech"? Deserving of "LGF Watch"? Perhaps, Legal, they ARE just propagandists. Perhaps some like Daniel Pipes are basing their writing on thorough investigations. Would you equally condemn Daily Kos? Talk about out of control, boy that site's all over the place, and with just as many nutty comments that one could pick apart.
Legal, I just want to know if someone who has written as you have here are just putting up a front for what you say online, or if you can actually discuss political/social issues from a fairly moderate position with someone. Call me weird, but I do really want to know. I can feel at home on many sites leaning either right or left, but never if they are sympathetic to jihadis or Wahabist Islam. What about you? Do you visit both, or do you just come to sites like this to vent? Come on, you can tell the Ghost. But we all have our motivators. Your hatred of Bush seems to drive you, as does your obsession with "hate speech". I know that Bush will be gone and that what has been done is done and must be dealt with. Out of my hands, I can't even moan on about it, disagree though I do. I am, however, just a few generations away from Genocide myself, and that's a pretty damn good motivator. I don't know about Pamela, but if she's coming from the same angle, then I can hardly blame her for her staying on watch for anti-Semitism.
Posted by: Lexecon | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 12:09 AM
Robert,
Yes, quite so.
PG, you asked,
Legal, I just want to know if someone who has written as you have here are just putting up a front for what you say online, or if you can actually discuss political/social issues from a fairly moderate position with someone. Call me weird, but I do really want to know.
Given the context of this blog, it there's nothing remotely weird about your skepticism. By way of response, let me note that, yes, I am entirely capable of having a reasoned and civil conversation about political and social issues, even controversial ones. Indeed, it would never occur to me to vent my disgust and hostility to someone, like you, that is obviously interested in participating in a genuine exchange of ideas. But frankly, that has nothing whatever to do with this blog. The issue is a bit more complex than I can outline here, but let me note that I’d be delighted to comment on your own site, and intend to do just that.
Still, let me just point out several of my main points with respect to the argument you’ve raised here. Probably most critical is your assertion about propaganda. For argument’s sake, I’ll acknowledge that I’ve engaged in leftwing rhetoric and even that my beliefs are dogmatic. I genuinely believe the Republican right is proto-fascist, deeply loathe sites like this and LGF, and am committed to the eradication of both from American political life. But those views are not propaganda. Propaganda isn’t defined by strong – even passionate – beliefs, or even hatred. I can present factually based arguments for every one of those beliefs, and, for example, am confident I could have such a discussion with you, whether or not we’d ultimately agree. Propaganda is what you get here, and is based on the belief that objective reality – i.e., what the rest of us refer to as facts - either doesn’t exist or doesn’t matter. Its practitioners are aware of and devoted to their own notion of some higher reality, and so have no need to confine themselves to the truth as the rest of humanity defines it. Every utterance is devoted to defeating their enemies, and is a repudiation of the notion that human beings are capable of a productive and meaningful exchange of ideas. Thus, their “argument” against liberals and the war is NEVER that they are mistaken about the geopolitical implications, but that they believe in appeasement and “want the terrorists to win.” Similarly, you have the “argument” by flabby, pig-eyed sack-of-shit Rush Limbaugh that the Virginia Tech mass murderer was a liberal. That’s propaganda. Another highly salient attribute of the Republican base is the extraordinarily high incidence of egregious stupidity. Many of them are singularly dull-witted, and actually seem to become confused about why they are so widely detested, and why liberals aren’t willing to calmly discuss “why they hate America.”
As to hate speech, I understand your concern, but I am fairly close to a First Amendment absolutist; I have no desire to make hate speech unlawful or strip it of its Constitutional protections. And perhaps your right, it may be more accurate and appropriate to simply designate it propaganda. And yet, even if such speech remains entirely lawful, there’s no reason whatever that it shouldn’t be excoriated, demonized, and universally denounced as the indulgence of human filth like Limbaugh and company.
Finally, the supposed concern of the far right with anti-Semitism is, from my personal perspective, the sleaziest, most dishonest propaganda of all. Maybe it’s because of the number of my own relatives that were exterminated in the Holocaust, but to see their deaths exploited to advance the political interests of the Republican Party – not to mention the agenda of classical Jew-haters like Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, et. al. - makes me want to vomit.
Posted by: legaleagle | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 01:19 PM
Interesting Legal. I'm sorry I failed to see your response earlier. My ire flies at both sides. I must disagree with the "proto-fascist" argument however, in terms of this being associated with the right. I can't help it, I lived surrounded by and with too many leftist-punk rock-anarchist people for too long. The beginnings of fascism here (which I doubt will truly develop, but if it does) will come from the left, I am positive. Thus my swing to certain right wing associated positions, though I came to many of those conclusions quite on my own, before 9/11, without the web, etc. One of my former dearest friends is now the "Atlas Shrugs" blog of MySpace it would seem, but extremely far left. Now HER commenters frighten me. Their constant promises to leave the country are all that give me hope.
I am sorry about your relatives. My own are exploited overseas in foreign languages to advance the cause of the Armenians usually. No one even knows we existed.
But enough here on Pamela's time, I'm easy to find if you want to continue discussion. I always want to discuss when I get the time. (I can hear Pamela laughing already at this statement about me having time....HAHAHA)
Posted by: Lexecon | Monday, April 30, 2007 at 09:58 AM