Hawks Exit, Enter Pantywaist Brigade

The peace conspirators have arrived just as the madmen are getting all nuked up, full metal jacket, baby. Today's front page in the New York Sun will sink you. Not that it was unexpected following Rumsfeld's departure.

AN EXODUS OF HAWKS FOLLOWS RUMSFELD FROM THE PENTAGON NY Sun

Overhaul of War Strategy Speeds Up,
Regional ‘Peace Conference’ Planned

Peace conference? Ugh.  How can you negotiate peace in a war that has not yet been won? In a word? Impossible.  This appeasement is perceived as weakness and capitulation by the aggressor.

President Bush’s overhaul of his war strategy is accelerating, as more senior officials are leaving the Pentagon and the administration is signaling its readiness to open direct negotiations with Iran regarding Iraq and to plan a regional “peace conference.”

   At the Pentagon, many senior hawks are following Defense Secretary Rumsfeld into the private sector. Among those leaving is the assistant secretary of defense for international security, Peter Rodman, who will take up a post at the Brookings Institution.

   Two administration officials said yesterday that the undersecretary of defense for intelligence, Stephen Cambone, was also looking to leave the Pentagon. Mr. Cambone is likely to face a subpoena from congressional Democrats looking to investigate his role in the drafting of interrogation policies.

A subpoena from the Dhimmis for "drafting interrogation policies.?" I love how the Dhimmicrats go all soft and fuzzy when it comes to murdering savages. These dangerous spineless, gutless wonders are driving the bus.

   In Washington yesterday, the State Department’s coordinator for Iraq,Ambassador David Satterfield, told the Senate Armed Services Committee that America was looking at the timing for a dialogue with Iran and was prepared in principle to re-enter such negotiations with the Islamic Republic.

   In the Middle East this week, Assistant Secretary of State David Welch is sounding out Arab leaders about a regional peace conference, tentatively scheduled for November 30 in Amman, Jordan, to entice Israel and the Palestinian Arabs to begin negotiating a settlement to their conflict.

OMG! Settle their conflict? When every Jew is dead and off that land the conflict will be settled. Cue Twilight Zone muzak. Islamists Are Not Driven By Israel-Palestinian Problem

   The diplomatic maneuvering and personnel exodus undercut recent remarks from Mr. Bush and Secretary of State Rice. On her plane to Hanoi on Tuesday, Ms. Rice said, “I think the question is, is there anything about Iranian behavior that suggests that they are prepared to contribute to stability in Iraq.And I have to say that at this point I don’t see it.”

   Mr. Satterfield yesterday, however, said, “We are prepared in principle to discuss Iranian activities in Iraq. The timing of such a direct dialogue is one we still have under reviews.”

Be prepared to lay down your neck, putz.

   Both co-chairmen of the Iraq Study Group, the panel charged with suggesting new war policy, met in September with Iran’s ambassador to the United Nations,Javad Zarif.The Republican cochairman of the study group,James Baker, in October told several press outlets that he believed in “talking to your enemies.”

Talking to your enemies? And what is your enemy doing while you are talking to him?

   The summit is contingent on the new Palestinian Authority and whether it recognizes Israel’s right to exist, agrees to prior agreements, and renounces terrorism. In exchange, America would drop bank sanctions that have starved the authority of cash for the last 10 months.

Great.  Back to terror funding our enemy.Do they really believe by feeding the crocodile, they won't get eaten?

   While those have been the Israeli and American demands of the Palestinian Arabs since Hamas won legislative elections in January, two diplomatic sources yesterday who requested anonymity said the State Department would be willing to accept a government that included some Hamas members if a majority of the cabinet agreed to the terms laid out in the 2003 road map document signed by both sides as well as America, Europe, Russia and the United Nations.

Accepting Hamas? Perhaps Hamas will blow up State. Someone has to.

   “We are looking at creative ways to get around this,” one diplomat said. “I would not call this ‘Hamas lite,’ but if we could get a government of negotiators instead of terrorists we’d take it.”

First, kill all the diplomats (before they get us killed.)

UPDATE: Iraqi Terrorists "Are Being Supplied with Arms Smuggled from Iran"

UPDATE: My man Vanderleun (nobody does it better), eviscerates the pantywaist brigade. Portrayed by the master ....hat tip Larwyn

The Voice of the Neuter is Heard Throughout the Land AMERICAN DIGEST

LIKE SOME HAGGARD CRACK WHORE banging on the door of a dealer's den willing to do anything , the hapless Joel ( "I despise our troops." ) Stein has been passed randomly about the blogsphere in the last couple of days. 

UPDATE: Ha!  I guess the leftards would attempt to silence Shakespeare too. The crime of opinion!

Comments

[pastormaker]

"Accepting Hamas? Perhaps Hamas will blow up State. Someone has to."

Pam, if only you could have sat in on the planning for 9/11, huh? You'd have been able to suggest "State" as a target.

"First, kill all the diplomats (before they get us killed.)"

You first, Pam. Go out and kill a diplomat as an example to to the other potential diplomat-killers out there. You can use the weapon of your choice, but I seem to remember the Bulgarians used a poison-tipped umbrella for such missions.

[Vince]

Pastor: You should go criticize the folks who are threatening your existance and not the people trying to raise the alarms about it. If you are really concerned about exterme statements then you're a hypocrite if you don't.

[pastormaker]

Vince: Since i'm neither a diplomat nor work in "State" I guess I should be grateful that Pam hasn't threatened my existence.

But diplomats and the people who work in "State" would certainly consider Pam's comments to be threats against their existence.

It's quite disturbing that Pam would make such threatening comments, considering the very recent arrest of a Michelle Malkin/Ann Coulter fan for sending threatening powder-filled letters to various media personalities and politicians, including Keith Olbermann and the new Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi.

[DoctorDentons]

Pastormaker: Where did you find the information that the sender was a Michell/Ann fan? I have not seen that in print anywhere? Please show your link or refrain from making that kind of remark.

[clyde]

After reading today's first post about possible upcoming "peace conferences", for some reason Neville Chamberlain comes to mind.

[DoctorDentons]

Pastormaker: Just found a reference..."the man APPEARED to be a fan. He was not quoted as saying that he was a fan...BTW, we don't threaten on this blog, we look for facts.

[BlueRacer]

Dr D. here ya go:
The Idiot posted on Free Republic As Marc Costanzo http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/user-posts?name=marc+costanzo

Costanzo's profile reads [sic]:

I am a lifelong Conservative Republican .

I have an Associates Degree in the Science of Electronics .

Ann Coulter is a Goddess and I worship Laura Ingraham and Michele Malkin .

There is your print: His own insane words.

[BlueRacer]

"Shrilly Mc'War Shrill" Pam writes:
"First, kill all the diplomats (before they get us killed.)"
Then DR D writes:
"..BTW, we don't threaten on this blog, we look for facts."
and yet I seem to be the only one whom has provided any facts thus far in this thread.
HHMM go figure

[BlueRacer]

Trex @ FDL Knocks it out of the park yet again:
"These people are ultimately exactly the same as the radical Islamic clerics and jihadis they claim to oppose, and it's time we called them out as such. The Right Blogosphere is a cesspool of boiling hate and howling insanity and we need to stop pretending that these are people who can be engaged rationally, appeased, or tolerated. They stand in direct opposition to everything that America is about, freedom of speech, plurality of ideas, and equality before the law regardless of race, gender, sexual orientation, and ideological or spiritual affiliation."

[lieinveigleobfuscate]

And Michelle Malkin calls the Left "Unhinged"? Between Mr. I Live With My Parents and Send White Powder Death-Threats to the Media and Pammy's over-the-top out-of-control and possibly actionable calls to violence here, I'm pretty sure I know who's truly "unhinged."

[cozmo1950]

Please, Americans all. Consider the real Question. CAN I TRUST YOU TO LET ME LIVE IN PEACE? Despite all of our bickering I would like to belive that we can understand the seriousness of this question. Now, what do you do when the answer is no?
Mississippi Combat Robotics. Go Fast/Hit Stuff

[DoctorDentons]

Blueracer..Thanx for the link, and I didn't even have to threaten you to get it...I had already found a link as previously posted and had stated such...didn't resort to chest beating.

[steve expat]

The "hawks", most of whom never served a minute in the military while they send others to die for them, are the true pantywaists.

[Richard Davis]

The NY Times seems to have taken a 180 on the war, now says that pulling before Iraq is able to secure itself might not be a good idea.

Looks like the NY Times are all for being more hawkish when Dems are in power.

[Abu Daboo Doo al Bedrocki]

Lefty pantywaists will only be happy when we see our country hit by a nuclear salvo from the religion of pieces. And, since when does somebody have to have served in the military to be able to express an opinion? Isn't that the point of a pluralistic republic? One doesn't become innoculated to criticism unless they voice a leftist position.

[steve expat]

Abu,
I'm referring to the hawks in the Administration. The "hawks" sitting at their keyboards should go to the website www.goarmy.com They are the falsest of patriots, cowards of the first order.

[DoctorDentons]

Hey Steverino...I would still like to see your DD-214 as requested before and you have a lot of gall to call anyone a "coward".I've done my tours as have my sons and as will my grandsons if and when the time comes...cowards my ass.

[Pamela Geller]

Shakespeare baby Shakespeare. Try literature sometime. Might lay some much needed neurocircuitry in that underdeveloped brain.

[John D. Infidel]

Found an article about the smuggling of arms into Iraq from Iran. Go to my post here: http://i-infidel.blogspot.com/2006/11/intercepted-ieds-from-iran.html and follow the link to the article. ;-)

[lieinveigleobfuscate]

Pam, you bloody-minded moron, when Shakespeare said "Kill all the lawyers" he was referring to how to destroy civil society, not making a suggeestion.

Try ACTUALLY READING some literature sometime, it might help your brain catch up to your boobs.

[kingweasil]

heheheh...hate filled zionist neocons-0...JOHN-1

[majdvmphd]

heheheh...hypocritical anti-Semitic self-loathing pussy coward neoCOM
Byebye princegerbil, or whatever other furry rodents you felch.

And when Pam referenced kill all the lawyers, she knows her Shakespeare, but it doesn't preclude her from making a joke about lawyers we can all appreciate. Troll.

[harlyridr]

Ya know, most of you pieces of shit have no idea about the world you live in but you seem to know a lot about hate and hating America. Instead of trying to make this country better you and your types, limbaugh, o'reilly, hannity etc. simply want to push hate and greed. I hope you rightwing assholes enjoy your life in hell when it's all over. Want to see my DD-214 asshole, no problem, let me see yours as well.

[turn]

Oh, glorious workers! Unite for the Revolution! We will make this a true workers' paradise. Unite and extoll the virtues of the Great Collective.
sarc/

[announcerguy]

She certainly does NOT know her Shakespeare, Major. At least not the scene from Henry VI that she references. There is another famouse line, in the scene just prior, that she no doubt is unfamiliar with as well:

"True nobility is exempt from fear".

No nobility to be found here.

"Kill all the Diplomats??" Why not just have another one of your comrades at Free Republic mail them a suspicious substance?

BTW, good to see you've risen above the slander and invective we discussed on a previous thread. A sad commentary on your PhD credential, that.

[julianmiller]

Wow,
And I prevously compared transvestites crack addicted hookers to you and said they had more class. They also have more sense. Please make some more threats and Bellevue will be calling as well as the authorities - Bellevue is about the only place in NYC that will house your pathetic hateful, and REALLY CRAZY bag of bones.
Maybe you and Bolton can go jump in the East River together or play "kill the Arab" or whatever other twisted craziness you do in all that alone time you both have b/c no one wants to be near crazies like you folks.
And the reality based community keeps moving forward while you folks keep whining.
And remember - we're laughing at you, not with you.

[bargal20]

So Pam now compares herself to William Shakespeare in an attempt to justify her terrorist threats against American civilians?

Does that mean Pam wants us to assume all her work is fiction?

[Righteous Bubba]

UPDATE: Ha! I guess the leftards would attempt to silence Shakespeare too. The crime of opinion!

The character who mentioned lawyer-killing, nitwit, was called Dick the Butcher.

[Sundance]

Atlas Shuddered.

Pam, I honestly feel sorry for people like you. It must be a miserable life for people such as Coulter, Malkin, Limbaugh, Hannity and yourself to live your daily lives with such hatred in your hearts and your souls. I'll never understand the dark place from whence the views of people such as you eminate, but I will pray for God to have mercy on your souls.

To suggest, even in misguided jest, that diplomats should be murdered is wrecklessness at its most dangerous, especially in today's vitriolic atmosphere. Has it never occurred to you that some of the readers you attempt to stir up with your hate-filled rhetoric might not understand which line shouldn't be crossed? I'll never understand the sense of humor among those who have stolen the "conservative" banner.

Surely, Barry Goldwater must be spinning in his grave.

And I'll never understand this insane concept that hating and attempting to dominate those of other cultures rather than trying to understand and respect one another is in anyone's long-term benefit. Sometimes I wonder if the major difference between people like you and the terrorists isn't simply the fact that the terrorists are willing to give up their lives for their misguided beliefs while you purveyors of radical right propoganda hide behind your keyboards.

But then, I suppose that's why so many of those who scream the loudest in favor of war and question the patriotism of those who oppose it (such as WWII bomber pilot, Silver Star and Distinguish Flying Cross winner George McGovern, and another Silver Star winner who lost three limbs in combat, Max Cleland) themselves went to such great lengths to avoid military service themselves (the boil on Rush Limbaugh's butt and Dick Cheney's numerous deferences only two of dozens of examples).

[bargal20]

Righteous Bubba wrote:
"The character who mentioned lawyer-killing, nitwit, was called Dick the Butcher."

Makes sense. Pam pretty mutch butchered John Bolton's dick over the last few months. How much fellatio can one man take?

And by the way, fellatio wasn't a character in "Hamlet".

[majdvmphd]

harlyridr learned nothing of his military service. Seems all the hate in here is coming from him. Love the teflon argument. My wife's DD-214 is fine, as is Rich Davis. Don't have mine yet, sorry. Might want to listen to Hannity and O'Reilly once in a while instead of taking somebody else's word for it. Along with Rush, Beck, Savage, and others, never more steadfast supporters of the military, and they have absolutely NOTHING to do with the VA.

[John D. Infidel]

bargal20 (aka fellatia da barfly), sundance (castrated wannabe a green beret), julian (the actual transvestite in this thread) miller, harlyridr (my ass is too big to ride my Honda wish it were a Harley) - Judging by your comments you all are the ones filled with hate, not us. Pamela's comment about killing all diplomats was emotional and not serious. Being emotional is something you liberal paracites should be familiar with, after all it is how you voted last week.

I, as a conservative am very happy. I am not looking for therapy because we lost the elections like so many liberals did in 04. Actually, I see opportunity with the Dhimmicrats controlling Congress. I am filling my quiver with depleted uranium tipped arrows and restringing my compound bow. The hunt will be most enjoyable.

- "Thanks for Voting Democrat - Love, al-Qaeda" -

btw - I am an honorably discharged Army Veteran and I have more respect for Dick Cheney than I have for Max Cleland or John Kerry - so sundance, you pussy, go back to the rock you crawled out from

[D.C.]

Matthew 5:43-44 (NASB)

"You have heard that it was said, 'YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR and hate your enemy.
"But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you

[Sundance]

Infidel, you are exquisitely typical of the idealogues who have hijacked the "conservative" label in this country. You obviously have the personality of the authoritarian follower: someone with a psychological and emotional need to follow a strong authority figure who can provide you with a sense of moral clarity and a feeling of individual power.

People like you and Pam are completely devoted to the authority and power of the so-called "conservative" movement. The result of this mass devotion is to override conscience and rob followers such as the two of you of any intellectual or moral limits on what you might do or how far you might go to justify and defend the movement.

You are part of a movement dedicated to the destruction of enemies wherever they may be found. Your foreign policy is driven not by ideas, but by the singular goal of destroying and killing "the enemy" or potential enemies. Your ideal world is a permanent state of war with a continuous stream of enemies to conquer.

People such as you crave more wars, more death and violence in the Middle East, the watering down or elimination of restraints on the power of the President, more spying, less freedom of the press, even the elimination of habeas corpus.

As a result, you and others in the movement see an enemy in everyone who disagrees with you or who threatens the power of the movement. Lurking behind every door is an enemy: terrorists, communists, "secular progressives," liberals, illegal immigrants, etc., etc., etc. The list goes on and on. Even Republicans you don't see as "loyal" feel the wrath of your poison. Those who disagree are labeled as liars, traitors or even terrorist sympathizers. Rapid attacks on those you see as "enemies" of the movement excite you. Hatred is an orgasm for people such as you.

You claim to be happy, but would you be happy without being part of your lynch mob?

I will pray for you, my friend.

[Xrathie]

I would suggest you learn who Morris Dees is and what he has done in the past ... and quick. If not you are leading yourself down the same path as those that learned a harsh leason from Mr. Dees.

Those that encourage domestic terrorism can be held accountable as well as those that get excited by that encouragement and actually carry it out.

Be careful not to suggest people send white powder to liberals ... because you just might be held accountable for when someone actually does it.

[bargal20]

John D. Infidel wrote: "Judging by your comments you all are the ones filled with hate, not us. Pamela's comment about killing all diplomats was emotional and not serious."

Most death threats are made and murders are committed in the "emotional" heat of the moment.

I don't think "emotion" is a viable defense in a court of law.

[Righteous Bubba]

Pamela's comment about killing all diplomats was emotional and not serious. Being emotional is something you liberal paracites should be familiar with, after all it is how you voted last week.

It's also pretty goddamned stupid to defend your heroine by calling her as emotional as the "liberal paracites" you hate. You're dense John. Leave the computer and start cooking burgers.

[harlyridr]

John d.

I personally don't care what you ride (my ass is too big to ride my Honda wish it were a Harley) but I do care that a lot of naive folks believe the crap that comes out of the
mouths of Pam and Sean and Rush etc. I also believe that those that haven't served in the military should NOT be pushing us into combat when they themselves avoided it at all costs.

Yeah I hate! I hate that Bush could avoid going to Viet Nam and that "Shooter" Cheney and Rush and all of the other chickenhawks got their pansy deferments. I hate how they continue to spew lies and bull. And now "W"
is finally going to Viet Nam, as the worst President in the history of the United States of America.

[majdvmphd]

I do serve Harly, and the only reason Kerry "served" was because his deferment was denied, so he accepted a commission instead of the draft. Then, he doctored up his OWN citations, or through medics instead of actual doctors, to get the requisite 3 purple hearts to earn him a trip home. One was for injuries from his own grenade in a rice bunker. He left his fellow swift boaters in the water and turned tail until the firing subsided. Then, he met with the V.C. in Paris in uniform unauthorized to throw his brothers in arms (YOU) under the bus, not sure if that was before or after throwing his medals (or ribbons, he doesn't know the difference) over the wall of the White House lawn.

Bush served in the Guard, and preloaded his final year early in that year so that he could go back to school. Not a draft dodger like Clinton. To smear his reputable service is to dishonor all who do and have served in the Guard or Reserves. By far not the worst President, unless in the hands of history revisionist, but not in the hands of current events revisionists.

I respect your service, but after all you've seen and experienced, and knowledge of the flip side of the coin, I can't understand why you can maintain that position. It's not the position of the current military for our Commander in Chief, overwhelmingly.

[John D. Infidel]

Harlyridr said: "I also believe that those that haven't served in the military should NOT be pushing us into combat when they themselves avoided it at all costs."

Last I checked the United States was not governed by a military junta. The U.S. Military is SUBSERVIENT to civilians whether or not they have served in the military.

We could change the Constitution and require military service as a prerequisite for the Presidency. We could reinstate the draft as Charlie Rangel wants to do --- you know the ole' egalitarian argument. And, to be entirely equal there would be no waiver for conscientious objection. How about that?

[harlyridr]

Wikipedia.org/George_W._Bush_military_service_controversy.

What a "reputable" guy with quite the reputable service, according to the facts from
hundreds of sources.

Current active duty military are not allowed to have positions, they are to do what they are told. I go to the VA twice a month and talk to the kids back from Iraq and Afghanistan and listen to their hate for this man. Do either of you go to VA hospitals and check with the wounded that have returned? Do you talk to anyone that has served or is serving? I do. My son, my nephews (2) and my neighbors son are all there and each and everyone of them sees through the lies and bullshit that got them there but they are soldiers and will do what they have to do. Again, he is and will always be the Worst President this country has ever or will ever be ruled by.

[linusbern]

I don't understand this rabid opposition to talking to your enemies. Please explain what is accomplished by not talking.

And to those who claim that if Bush talked to Iran he would be rewarding them, well... I've heard Bush talk, its not a rewarding experience.

[BlueRacer]

Shrill Shrill WAR WAR WAR WAR Shrill Shrill
Shrill on cowardice warriors

[majdvmphd]

I'm allowed an anonymous opinion on here, and my friends in the military who've been there are allowed to have their opinions expressed to me. I've been to the hospitals (I'm in the AMEDD), I've been on funeral detail, and I've been a CNO. The overwhelming sentiment is positive, as also seen by higher recruitment and reenlistment/retention rates. Sorry, but you're wrong. I also think you need to temper your opinion against Bush to reflect the true nature and history of Kerry, Clinton, and others. Kerry is STILL attacking us, and we all hate him. 86%+ military vote for Bush in 2004. No lie.

[LoudPatriot]

Heil Bush

[John D. Infidel]

Well said Majdvmphd!

I came across a picture of over 300 soliders reenlisting at Camp Buehring, Kuwait. I've posted it here: http://i-infidel.blogspot.com/2006/10/record-reenlistment-ceremony.html

[LoudPatriot]

14 signs of Fascism
1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism
2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights
3. Enemies/Scapegoats used as Unifying Cause
4. Supremacy of the Military
5. Rampant Sexism
6. Controlled Mass Media
7. Obsession with National Security
8. Religion and Government are Intertwined
9. Corporate Power is Protected
10. Labor Power is Suppressed
11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts
12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment
13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption
14. Fraudulent Elections

Welcome to CONservative America!

Republikan America
Lying is tolerated.
Torture is tolerated.
Reason is discarded for faith, dogma, and nonsense.
Fake character, virtue and strength is tolerated.
Subversion of the Bill of Rights and The Constitution is tolerated.
Suspension of Habeas Corpus is tolerated
War profiting is tolerated.
Killing of hundreds of thousands of people is tolerated.

Republikans =
Full of felons
Indicted politicians
Sexual predators
Rubber stamp loyalists
Constitution haters
Fear mongers
that don't give a damn about America

The founding fathers were the liberals.

Heil Bush

[VictoriousDem]

Yea right, 'majdvmphd' is in the military. That's why he has time to blog at all hours day and night.

If anyone believes this one I've got a nice bridge to sell you...

[majdvmphd]

LoudPatriot eh? Begs the question as to what country you're a Patriot of. Iran?

As for your doubts VictoriousDem, feel free to e-mail me at scott.willens@us.army.mil
You can't forge an ako (Army Knowledge Online) account. I'll even reply so you know it's me.

Second, you can google my name. If it has to do with biking or sports reporting, those are other Scott Willens. If it has to do with veterinary medicine, pharmacology/toxicology, aquatic animal medicine, military, or singing, it's me. Photos of me are here
http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=%22scott+willens%22&btnG=Search+Images

So, doubter, how much you want for that bridge over troubled waters? LMFAO

[majdvmphd]

Oh, btw, we do get breaks, I do go home at the end of the day, and I type 75-100 words/minute, so this takes me no time at all. Thanks for your concern about my 10-12 hour days (minimum) and my family/social life. I'll file that away under "couldn't care less".