They should have killed him

Peggy Noonan in todays Wall Street Journal;

It is as if we've become sophisticated beyond our intelligence, savvy beyond wisdom. Some might say we are showing a great and careful generosity, as befits a great nation. But maybe we're just, or also, rolling in our high-mindedness like a puppy in the grass. Maybe we are losing some crude old grit. Maybe it's not good we lose it.

Sounds like what they said about the German Jews when the question is asked "how could it happen?"  The answer put forth is something to the effect that the Jews were too civilized, too intellectualized, never considering the savagery, barbarity (that and they had nowhere to go or that  no one would take them in. There was only one Denmark)

Same thing. Same twisted thinking.
More Noonan;

From the moment the decision was announced yesterday, everyone, all the parties involved--the cable jockeys, the legal analysts, the politicians, the victim representatives--showed an elaborate and jarring politesse. "We thank the jury." "I accept the verdict of course." "We can't question their hard work." "I know they did their best." "We thank the media for their hard work in covering this trial." "I don't want to second-guess the jury."

I say bullshit. I say they blew it. I say they failed us. And I can say that, because it could have been me in that building or you or your ma or baby. We were all in those buildings and those planes and in the Pentagon. I won't soft soap this. Betcha dollars to donuts it was lefties on the jury that evoked his unhappy childhood memories liberal guilt nonsense.

He knew the trigger was about to be pulled. He knew innocent people had been targeted, and were about to meet gruesome, unjust deaths.

He could have stopped it. He did nothing. And so 2,700 people died.

I'd have pulled the trigger on him, they should have killed him. This jury was yellow.

UPDATE: Sandmonkey bodes ill tidings here. Say it ain't so, you barrel full of monkey love!

Jeremayakovka has an excellent post on terror here

Comments

[mrbones]

And I can say that, because it could have been me in that building or you or your ma or baby.

Ah, so you can second-guess the judicial system because you could have been in the towers? What the hell gives you the right, you raving loon? Christ, Hugh Hewitt could've been in the towers, had he, you know lived in New York. Nice how you conservobloggers like to fantasize that you were in the towers -- this fueling your raghead killin' fever dreams...

We were all in those buildings and those planes and in the Pentagon.

No, we were not. That's the difference between life and death.

Betcha dollars to donuts it was lefties on the jury that evoked his unhappy childhood memories liberal guilt nonsense.

It's this sort of garbage that makes it a fait accompli that Pajamas Media is doomed to fail. Aligning themselves with illiterate nationalists like you was a big mistake.

[I don't doubt that this comment with either not be posted or swiftly deleted -- "millblogger," despite their heavy breathing, are pretty gutless and generally unwilling to engage in debate.]

[Mike H.]

"What the hell gives you the right, you raving loon?" The same right that you invoke and abuse at the same time.

"this fueling your raghead killin' fever dreams..." I don't quite remember when that phrase was first used. Perhaps you aren't the anti-racist that you imply by that statement.

"No, we were not. That's the difference between life and death." If the fact that we're alive while those in the towers are dead means that we should no longer worry about the means of their death, I would hate to be someone who thought that you had concern for their safety. You seem to have become corrupted in your view of the common good.

[Lois]

Pamela,

I agree with you; spot on as usual..perhaps those who are intent on minimizing what he did have never been to NY..or PA...or DC.

And now Fwance asks for him to be sent back so they can take care of him? They would have the same 'system' as the arabs who occupy Jewish land in Israel; a few days of incarceration, and off he would go, to resume his previous career. Solitary? I hope someone has the cojones to off him. Too bad he can only die once.

The words 'if only' are especially tragic now..possibly 9/11 would not have happened.

And the Federal Court that tried him is one of the most LLL in the USA. Figures.

[WesternMilitant]

mrbones is what I have been trying to tell people about for many years. It is not the Islamofascist that I fear so much as the 5th columnist in our midst, like mrbones. These are the people that will destroy America. Too stupid to know, or cowardly to admit, when they are being attacked. Hoping that by sucking up to the aggressor they will buy some time. We Americans have become very weak as a people. We need to focus less on the outside world and more on the internal U.S. We are rotting from within. The liberals stink of fear and weakness, always kowtowing to lesser men and nations. How sad that so many answer their call.

[Yankinwaoz]

Hey Pam. Normally I agree with most of what you write. However, in this case, I feel the verdict and sentence was correct.

I know that is sucks.... we want blood. But revenge and justice are not the same thing.

The bottom line is that this looser never harmed or killed anyone with his own hands. Nor did he direct anyone else to do harm on his behalf.

I strongly suspect that was the reason for the jury's decision. Not the childhood sob story, as you speculate.

All his actions, rants, and other antics only proved what a looser idiot he is. I don't feel that it gained him any points with anyone.

I, for one, am happy that he gets to spend the next few decades locked in a hell-hole. Death is too good for him.

[Jeremiah]

This is the travesty that goes down when we use a civilian jurisdiction to try a man for his willing participation in acts of war.

And to reason and punditize because, truly, any of us could have been in those buildings (rather: those military targets) is sound.

The cops guilty of beating Rodney King - one innocent black man - were acquitted. LA burned for days; plus other cities saw rioting.

The last surviving (would-be) suicide missile pilot, the only one within reach of our means of justice - who plotted to murder thousands of innocents - is awarded a life term, possibly in France. And ... life ... goes ... on. Or does it?

[cozmo1950]

As an ex federal prisoner, I can assure you that there is a sizeable portion of the prison population that takes thier patriotism very seriously. There will be a huge amount of social advantage conferred upon the prisoner that manages to kill him. Therefore it is a reasonably safe bet that he won't last as long as the average fifteen to twenty years it takes the prison system to exicute someone.
Lance

[Pamela Geller]

Lance, That is strangely reassuring. And here I thought it was just child eating pedophiles that were unpopular in the can.
Pamela

[neverforget]

Four things:

1. No terrorist in our prison system has been killed by other prisoners;

2. Evil psychopaths do not spend their time in prison thinking and suffering about how evil they are, because that would require a conscience which they do not have;

3. France is already trying to get him sent to France;

4. MrBones is a flaming lowlife asshole.

[Cousin Dave]

Sigh... After thinking about it, I think maybe it's better this way. (He did get no-possible-parole, right? I hope?) Here's my reasoning:

Had he gotten the death penalty, it would take 15 years at least for all of the appeals. And all that time, he'd have a forum in the courts and an open mic provided by the media. And there would always be the danger that some LLL judge would actually look for a reason to release him on bail during the appeals. As it is, all he can really appeal for is a reduction of sentence (there's no judge in America, no matter how LLL, that will dare to reverse the conviction), and that won't draw either media attention or judicial sympathy.

Additionally, if he were sentenced to death, you just know how our "allies" in Europe would react. There would be no end of stories in the NYT about French and German ambassadors protesting the "barbaric" U. S. justice system. Of course, they will probably complain anyway, but again it won't draw nearly as much sympathy.

Also, this way, he can't really claim status as a martyr. In fact, we could slip some innuendo into the right channels about how he was a coward for submitting to arrest and arraignment rather than fighting to the death when caught. (Saddam lost a lot of Arab street cred for this same reason.)

Finally, if the guy were executed, the MSM would try to re-make his image into that of a saint. With him alive, we have the perfect counter-example; all a blogger has to do is go to the jail, interview him, and let him shoot his mouth off. He'll stick his foot in it, just like he did time and time again during his trial. "I won, America lost"? Jeez, third-graders can come up with better taunts than that.

[Laptop_Ron]

I read Ms. Noonan alot and she's one of my fav columnists. I was pretty shocked at her response to this. Happily shocked, I guess.
I don't understand the life in prison thing. What's the point? Is he going to repent? No.
I'm not feeling terribly emotional about this one way or another. He needed to be executed, not left alive as a possible pawn for prisoner trade somewhere down the road.
He knew what was going to happen and he let it happen. Part of a conspiracy. Just as if he did the deed himself.
Why do so many screwballs want to complicate this?

Oh, and I wish that guy didn't use "mrbones". There's a vaudeville skit in White Christmas that uses that name and I think this ruined it for me. sigh.

[neverforget]

Muslims do not consider being executed by infidels as being worthy of martyrdom.

[raz0r]

Maybe we are losing some crude old grit.

A liberal that I work with and I have both come to the same conclusion. America has gone soft. We have it too well. Hardship is not something most of us have had to experience, unlike our grandparents. Europe likes to use the term "cowboys" to insult us. Most of us are too soft and refined to be that anymore. That's to our shame. Had 9/11 happened back in the 40's, we wouldn't have thought twice about crushing them with the full onslaught of our military. The US has gone soft, hopefully it can be undone.

[fustian]

While I'm down with executing him, this sentence is no picnic.

He'll be locked in a small cell, no friends, no family, no fancy meals, no Jihadist anything, no internet, no future, no nothing.

Seconds turn into minutes, minutes turn into hours, hours turn into days and all Moussaoui will be doing is waiting to die.

He didn't win anything.

[Jeremiah]

Muslims do not consider being executed by infidels as being worthy of martyrdom.

Reminds me of a line in a WWII play, by an SS soldier: "A bullet is wasted on a Jew."

Hardship is not something most of us have had to experience, unlike our grandparents.

One of my best friend's parents survived Auschwitz together. That's where they met: a match made in Hell. Remember, most horror is never recounted by its survivors: it kills them or else dies with them, mostly. So keep reading A.H. Ali, P. Chesler, A. Solzhenitsyn, C. Milosz, Humberto Fontova, etc. If each civilization has to be confronted with its own death and destruction each generation, so be it: THIS IS OUR TIME.