Ayaan Hirsi Ali evicted from home, Now Deported?

Andrew Bostom hipped me up to this. Ayaan Hirsi Ali is an international treasure. We must guard here, protect her with our very lives;

The upshot of this article is that Rita Verdonk, Integration Minister in NL, is “looking into” the basis on which Ayaan Hirsi Ali became a naturalized Dutch citizen.  On Friday Verdonk said Hirsi Ali had nothing to worry about, but today her spokesperson would no longer say that.

Absolutely despicable.  First they drive her out of her house – now they are apparently trying to drive her out of her country.They threw her out of her house because of all of the trouble she brought with her, the guards, the threats, but I don't believe that. They can not bear what she represents. They can't look at her and then look in the mirror. The can't stand the truth so they are evicting th truth.

Verdonk bekijkt naturalisatie Hirsi Ali toch

DEN HAAG - Minister Rita Verdonk (Vreemdelingenzaken en Integratie) gaat de naturalisatie van Tweede Kamerlid Ayaan Hirsi Ali toch onderzoeken. Volgens een woordvoerder van het ministerie van Justitie laat de minister „aspecten van de naturalisatie bekijken”, zo zei hij zaterdag.

Verdonk zei vrijdag dat Hirsi Ali niets te vrezen heeft. Of dat nu wel het geval is, wilde de woordvoerder niet zeggen.

Het prominente VVD-lid geeft al jaren toe dat zij heeft gelogen om een verblijfsvergunning in Nederland te krijgen. In een uitzending van tv-programma Zembla donderdag verklaarden de broer van Ayaan, een tante en haar ex-man onder meer dat zij niet tegen haar zin was uitgehuwelijkt en dat zij destijds geen angst had of hoefde te hebben voor haar familie.

Naar aanleiding van die uitzending stelden verschillende Kamerleden, waaronder Hilbrand Nawijn, vragen over de kwesti

Liberals don't care Hirsi Ali lied to get asylum in 199212 May 2006

AMSTERDAM — Somali-born MP Ayaan Hirsi Ali may have told more lies about her past in order to get asylum in the Netherlands in 1992 than she has previously admitted, news programme Zembla has suggested.  

Immigration Minister Rita Verdonk said on Friday that Hirsi Ali need not worry about facing repercussions for what she did 14 years ago. But she repeated she would have deported Hirsi Ali if she had been the minister back in 1992. "I don't like lies," Verdonk said on Friday.

Hirsi Ali shot to fame in 2002 when her criticism of aspects of Islam and the treatment of women in Muslim societies led to death threats. She joined the Dutch Liberal Party (VVD) and was elected to parliament in 2003.

She wrote the scripts for the short film Submission which featured semi-naked women taking about mistreatment under Islam. The director Theo van Gogh was murdered in November 2004 for helping her to make the movie.

Thursday's edition of Zembla retraced Hirsi Ali's journey from Somalia, via Kenya, to the Netherlands and uncovered both well-documented and previously unreported inconsistencies in her story.

Interviews with her brother, aunt and ex-husband raised doubts about Hirsi Ali's contention she fled to Europe to escape possible retribution from her family for not going through with an arranged marriage. Her relatives contradicted her claim that she was not present during the wedding to the Canadian-Somali man.

Hirsi Ali said she was forced to marry a stranger but her ex-husband said they had been in love and spent the week together after the wedding. [ a whole week? wow - Atlas] He then went back to Canada to prepare for her arrival. Supplied with a plane ticket, Hirsi Ali later arrived in Germany and took a train to Amsterdam rather than continue the planned journey to Canada.

Hirsi Ali said she came clean about the lies she told to get asylum when she joined the Liberal Party (VVD) in 2002. Yet prominent VVDer (and now EU Commissioner) Nelie Kroes described Hirsi Ali as a person who had lived through five civil wars in Somalia. This was not true as Hirsi Ali lived in Kenya for over 10 years before coming to the Netherlands.

A spokesperson for the VVD said the party had been aware that Hirsi Ali lied about her name and date of birth when seeking asylum. This was not seen as a barrier to her joining the party or becoming one of its MPs.

Her real name is Hirsi Magan. Her father was an opponent of the regime in Somalia and was jailed there. Hirsi Ali and her brother were sent to Kenya where she lived from the age of 10 to 22.

Zembla showed footage of Hirsi Ali in a documentary made the Dutch Muslim broadcaster only months after she was supposedly in hiding for fear of retribution from her family. It also emerged she was in contact with her father and on one occasion her jilted husband came to see her in the Netherlands. He left without harming her when she made it clear she did not want to continue with the marriage.

The MP's spokesperson said there was nothing new in the documentary and noted Zembla had chosen not to include other issues about her past, including her claims to be undergone female circumcision as a young girl.

Former Immigration Minister Hilbrand Nawijn called for Hirsi Ali to be stripped of Dutch nationally and deported. He was head of the Immigration and Naturalisation Service (IND) when Hirsi Ali applied for asylum.

History stutters. Truth tellers are always punished. We can not, must not let the Islamists take control of Hirsi Ali's destiny. She is under 24 hour armed guard. Our government must take a strong stand. On second thought Hirsi Ali needs American asylum. She belongs in New York. Oh and can someone tell me why the mainstream media has all but blacked out Hirsi Ali's tour. She should be front and center on the pages of America's newspapers.

Judith has more here.

UPDATE: From Michael  in in the Netherlands,

I am a Dutch conservative (weirdly we call that liberal) blogger. I am a member of the party Ayaan is a member of as well (the VVD).

Anyway; like you I am absolutely disgusted by what is happening lately to Ayaan Hirsi Ali. I try to keep close track of everything she is doing and I am incredibly ashamed about what is currently happening.

The debate whether or not they should take her nationality from her (deport her) is a real debate. It is almost unbelievable, but this could really happen. Although I think that the following two options are more probable: 1- they will force her to appologize and she'll leave parliament in 08

2- they will force her to leave parliament immediately

Both options are terrible, of course, but not as bad as the 'deport option'. We must aware; minister of integration Verdonk started an investigation already

Go over to his blog Free and Justice and get a gander at what is happening in the country itself from a soldier fighting the fight. Read it all.

Comments

[lowandslow]

Why doesn't Nawijn just cut off his balls, put on a burqa and be done with it.

[Brian of London]

It's Danish Carlsberg for me, no more Dutch Heineken if they continue with this disgusting witch hunt.

[hugh59]

Well, if the Dutch force her out of Parliament and/or deport her, I will strongly oppose any permission for any Dutch to emigrate to the US to avoid the shari'a law once the Netherlands become part of Eurabia. Let them all suffer and die.

[photoncourier.blogspot.com]

There is a level of collective cowardice beyond which a society cannot surive, and I'm afraid significant portions of the West are getting near that level.

[turn]

Ayaan is perhaps the most important international female figure of our time. Consequently she should reside where her voice can be most widely heard.
From what I've read of her she has tremendous courage. If she has indeed been a victim of genital mutilation (female circumcision is such a misnomer. Clitorectomy has no healthful benefit and absolutely detestable personal and social consequences) I recommend that she be examined by an independent gynocologist that can diagnose this objectively. OK, admittedly this is a humiliation, but this is part of her public story and should be verified if for no other reason than to report the prevalence of this barbarous practice.
As much as I detest MSM like 60 minutes and 20/20 it actually may be possible to get John Stossel on board with a story like Ayaan's. He is an Albert Shweitzer still working in the jungle of lies and disinformation of American media.
There is a tipping point whereby a certain number of folks know and commiserate 'round the water cooler. Unfortunately, only MSM can achieve this for Ayaan at this time

[turn]

hugh59
Don't blame all Dutch citizens for a decision made by their politicians. Remember Anne Franke?

Photon
Take heart. There is collective cowardice but there is also individual courage. Eventually that will manifest in significant numbers.

turn (the other cheek)

[tazzerman2000]

To paraphrase: "All it takes for evil to win is for good people to do nothing."

I sit here just absolutely seething in rage, but what can I do?

The Jewish community should rise up enmass in her defence. This would send a signal would it not?

It will never happen. Not a word. We're all to busy playing politics and raising money for the 'Federation'. I'm SICK of it.

Never again? Yeah right. Just over and over and over and over again, while we all sit by and watch on our TVs this time and do nothing. Talk talk talk like a herd of braying sheep.

I am beyond cynical at this point.

Hirsi Ali is one of the very few with the courage to stand up and speak out about the atrocities commited upon women in the name of Allah.

Theo gave his life for this....

Besides us Jews, who SHOULD be standing with Ali BTW, where are the NOW folks? Were are the other womens orgs in this country and around the world? Why are they silent? Why are they willing to do nothing and let evil win, time and time again??

In regards to Anne Frank, never forget:

"Anne, her family, and the others living with them were arrested and deported to Nazi concentration camps. In March of 1945, nine months after she was arrested, Anne Frank died of typhus at Bergen-Belsen. She was fifteen years old."

Good people DID try but the end result was the same.

We as a people, ALL OF US, continue to sit by and watch. Individual acts of courage will NOT work. We MUST come together, stop playing politics, stop labeling each other and pointing fingers. We are at war and the enemy is using our own institutions against us. This MUST NOT STAND.

btw, I'm new to this blog, having just been referred here yesterday. I am in LOVE :)

The piece you posted the other day of the BBC recording of the Shoah survivors singing Hatikvah moved me to tears and touched the inner most recesses of my soul. I'm hooked :) Thank you.

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tazzerman
Hard to believe I'm going to quote clinton here.
I feel your pain.
Your pain is the result of feeling hopeless and helpless. Be neither.
I'm not a Jew. But I caught the Beeb recording yesterday on Charles Johnson's 'Little Green Footballs' and was deeply and permanently moved. This is an example of what is meant when people refer to the Human Spirit.
I'm not a Jew but I'll stand and fight the good fight next to anyone of any Faith. And I'm just one of untold millions.
Tazzerman, this is soooo 1937. The Earth was unconcerned going about its mundane tasks, but just a few years later ordinary folks rose and defeated the wolves both at their doors and far from their doors. It will be again, Amen.
Take heart, be of good faith. The Holocaust of Europe, the Killing Fields of Cambodia, the unknown Millions unmarked by memorial under Stalin and Mao. Good SHALL prevail. Courage! Take heart!
You began your post with the quote that "for evil to prevail, all that is necessary is for men of good will to do nothing". Let me tell ya' something, Jack. Good men are, at this moment, doing plenty. More than you know or dream. We're not gonna lose this.
In my previous I brought up Anne Franke to rebut a previous unkind post regarding allowing Dutch refugees. I dearly hope that it moved the person I intended it for to reconsider.
You bring up Anne and her eventual demise as well. It's not that she died or how she died. It's the fact of her beloved diary moving countless youngsters to believe that there are ideals worth sacrificing for that really counts.
Now quitcher bitchin' and start edumacatin' your friends and family.
turn (the other cheek) out.

[EN]

1937 indeed. However, my take is a little different. The Dutch, and most other Euros, are the Jews this time. Like many Jews of the 1930s, the Euros are trying to placate and accommodate that which will never be placated or accommodated. The end will be much the same as it was in WW II for the Jews. Most will go placidly to their fate, hanging on the belief that it’s just a bad dream and someone will protect and save them from themselves. I take no satisfaction from that, because we’re next. At least 1/3 of the population of the US is easily the same kind of sheep that exist in Europe.

[EN]

I would also be very careful about what kind of people we allow into the country from Europe. We need fewer mulit-culti idiots, not more. The real disease in Europe is not Islam, they are just praying on an already disease ridden body. The disease is the cultural Marxists who allow this nonsense to happen.

[turn]

Shout it out--AMEN to EN.
You're spot on. But there may be some hope and it actually lies in the fecklessness that the Euros are suffering from. Consider: Large portions of the native and the immigrant populations of Europe are non-productive and living on the dole. An ever-greater number of these are being supported by an ever fewer productive class.
So far (unlike our friends Down Under) it's only been the 'slammi punks doing the rioting. But when the money runs out (and it will) there will be massive unrest and no coffers to pay police. Strongmen will arise--they always do. Then I believe it will devolve into race and culture war.
Without the soft socialist life they're used to, they may actually return to that most antithetical to marxism practice: Christianity. Especially when viewed in the context of who they must fight.
The Nazis blitzed through western Europe and with typical German style established ordnung in almost no time. Not so with the barbarians. Their style is sneaky--infiltrate and then make demands.
Not for one second do I believe that the rage and will to fight has been bred out of Europeans in two generations. Much harder to ignite, perhaps, but the fuse is already primed.
When Americans are called on to jump in, it will take the motivating of people by the likes of Ayaan Hirsi Ali to get us there.

[turn]

One last thing EN:
Not many Euros are allowed in thanks to Ted (hiccup stagger) Kennedy. See 1965 immigration act.
But those that I've met in the last few years are terribly upset over the direction their homelands have taken. It's kind of a weird dichotomy--they have a lot of pride in their origins and something close to shame for what those countries have become. You can tell whether or not to welcome them with a couple quick questions about what they think of certain Dem proposals.

[EN]

Turn, I'm taking the long view, both looking forward and looking back. The First World War killed European Spirit. For all the nonsense I hear about Western Euro contributions to WW II, the truth is that West of The Reich there was never much resistance. They went placidly to their fate assuming that it was better to be ruled by Germans than killed by them. Today even Germany has been infected with the French disease of relativism. There may be some spirit left in Germany, but they seem unsure. At best we can only hope the Germans will turn inwards and protect themselves. However, it’s unlikely they will be of any help to us, and it will be worse in the rest of Europe. We are alone.

Europeans have no moral center. Relativism is their religion. Any attempt at personal philosophical coherence is held in check by the absolute of “Equalitarianism”. It screams, “All are equal to me”. To bring one’s self to the point of national ultimate sacrifice demands that you fight with the clear ideals of one’s righteousness. I agree with you that a totalitarian will rise. Still, that doesn't mean they will fight.

It’s easy to listen to Bloggers and have a sense that there’s something left of the old spirit that made Western Culture the most advanced on the planet for two millennia. However, the hurdle that has to be cleared that allows individuals to kill others (I refuse to call it “force”) has been set impossibly high in an attempt to make sure they have no more wars.

To paraphrase and old saying from the 1960s, [What if they had a war and only one side showed up?] History is filled with examples of wars and warriors fighting for their countries. These are historical high points. It leads us to assume it’s the norm. It’s just the opposite. More often than not most humans choose not to resist a determined enemy unless they have a clear sense of the consequences. Euros have been reduced to hoping it doesn’t happen or that Big Brother will save them.

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EN
You may well have the right of this.
I have a native optimism a la Reagan. I will not go down without a fight and I don't believe you will and I hope to heaven Europe won't, either.
As to Germany, I don't kmow. They've had Turk guest-workers longer than most other old continent countries. But the greatest spine has been shown by (I'm proud to say the country of my surname's origin) Denmark. That's why Pamela has even chosen a 'Support Denmark' link on your left.
I've had my share of dark days but nothing compared to Ayaan. (January to April 1982 dated a Persian girl who called me at the end in tears that her folks had arranged a marriage for her. Not really devastating for me, but 'telling').
I urge everyone to be grounded in reality, keep eyes on the ball but retain some hope and optimism.
For what it's worth "turn the other cheek" refers to the admonition to not respond to a personal attack instantly with a hormonal response. Give your attacker an option to rethink what they have done. Then stomp.

[turn]

If I'm recalling correctly (/flashbacks off) "What if they held a war and nobody came". (giggle. snarf. Dude, don't bogart that!)