Poor Bastard....Stuck on Stupid

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France to extend anti-riot powers
Metro Toronto - 6 hours ago
French Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin leaves a special cabinet meeting at the Elysee Palace in Paris, November 14, 2005. The French government will ask parliament to grant a three-month extension to ..Chirac's new pledge to end unrestChannel 4 News

French president says riots are sign of 'profound malaise' rooted

Oh yeah, that's the ticket Clown, pay the extortionists............."extend the curfew", oh I can just see those young radical islamists shivering in their jihadist sandals.

Don't these fools have any army?

French Police Clash With Youths in Lyon

Check out this headline, imagine if this were Israel and the Palis...............how would the headline read?
"Hostile IDF aggressors attack innocent Palestinian Victims"

Meanwhile, Rioters pelted police with stones in the historic heart of Lyon, and youths rammed a burning car into a center for retirees in southern France in a 17th night of urban violence.

Neighboring Belgium registered its worst night in a week of attacks on vehicles apparently inspired by French events, with 29 cars, trucks and buses torched around the country, the government said Sunday. Youths in the Dutch city of Rotterdam also set four cars on fire overnight.

UPDATE  November 15: It's that time again - Blame the Jooooooos
 
Moslem riots in France have fanned anti-Semitism, and four synagogues and Jewish schools have been firebombed, despite Jewish media reports that Jews are not being targeted more than others.............Jean-Claude Dassier, the director general of French 24h news service LCI admitted to censoring its reporting of the French riots to prevent a resurgence of extreme rightwing views in France. Then Arutz Sheva reports

Over at Franck's blog;

and the WSJ Political Journal notes this effete observation;

"French intellectuals have maintained their silence, despite more than 6,000 burnt-out cars, wrecked schools and vandalized creches and the one death resulting from the riots that have raged since October 27. Now at last the philosopher Andre Glucksmann has spoken out with a provocative thesis: The disturbances are not the result of alienation but a sign that the young rioters are becoming integrated. 'They are integrating themselves by the very act of setting cars alight, even by the fact that they are setting people alight,' he told the German newspaper, the Franfurter Rundschau. According to Glucksmann, negation is a typical form of French integration. 'All parties in France, business, the workers and so on, believe that something can be achieved by violence,' he told the leftist daily"

-- German journalists Sabine Glaubitz and Nicola Wanner on the reaction of French intellectuals to the riots.

Silence"? Smells like France al la World War II - Atlas

Comments

[tim jansing]

This is the country which rolled over for the Nazis then offered up its' Jewish citizenry as tribute. All the while the French naval fleet was literally chained to piers in Algiers. The US had to fight the French to fight the Nazis. The French governments' response to this current group of fascists is no different.
Le plus le change, le plus le const.

Surely there is some father, mother, land owner, patriot who has realized the utter failure of their government, and has raised an armed one-on-one challenge to the roving bands of thugs. Are the French so inept at self-preservation that they must be rescued from the wolves again?

Lafayette must be wretching in his grave.

In my not so humble opinion, Chirac should declair his own executive fatwah: Shoot on sight, shoot to kill.

[monkyboy]

Posts knocking France - 27
Posts knocking Saudi Arabia - 1

Hmm.

[Craig]

Posts knocking Liberal Media BS- 1
http://redsatellites.blogspot.com/2005/11/always-asking-wrong-question.html

[Miguel]

Posts knocking France - 28
F**k France!
;)

[Dave Robbins]

3 months?!?!?!! You need 3 months to stop people who have home made bombs and limited firearms? Can you imagine the Main Stream Stenographers outrage if Bush said we needed 3 months to get control of the riots in New Orleans? Oh, that's right, Bush didn't need to say that because the rioting, looting and killing was way oversold by the media.

Let's face it, France should don the bhurkas right now, and that include the metrosexual males - and I'm being kind - who can't protect themselves and think marching in protest will sway the rabid mob's fury.

[Eg]

Don't these fools have any army?

Pamela…shame on you. From the French Revolution, the Reign of Terror, the French are loath to even idea of having to suffer the disgrace of having to host even the most meager of ’forces under arms.’ Today especially, I’d venture to bet, you’ll never hear even a whisper about the most vilest idea imaginable, their own troops on any street of le Grande Republic. That great body of unwashed masses know it, the jihadi’s know it and the government knows and obligingly accepts it.

Would such an unlikely situation occur, the jihadi’s and the French, alike, would stand together in defiance before them.

[Eg]

Oh yes…if you’re wondering about this seemingly bizarre condition, this seeming contradiction. The French suffered more horrors and terror at the hands of their citizen soldiery, their loving revolutionaries, than they ever suffered by the hands of their ruling elite, the loyalists, or the Monarchy.

Hardly a wonder there isn’t tyrant they haven’t loved and adored.

[Stephen]

Chirac Monday-
"This is a crisis of direction, a crisis of reference points, it is a crisis of identity,"

Jimmy Carter-1979-'Malaise Speech'
It is a crisis of confidence. It is a crisis that strikes at the very heart and soul and spirit of our national will. We can see this crisis in the growing doubt about the meaning of our own lives and in the loss of a unity of purpose for our nation.

A crisis screams for a leader with ideas and solutions not an orator's analysis of the symptoms.

[Thomas Carney]

I've heard that the French military and law enforcement agencies, in order to facilitate closer relations with the United States, have adopted on American state's motto:

"FIRST IN FLIGHT".

I see the French like North Carolina's motto.

[Craig]

I see this blog is way overdue for some levity....
How many French soldiers does it take to kill a terrorist?
Unknown

How do you know if a gun belongs to a Frenchman?
It's still in the box

If a Frenchman catches a man in bed with his wife, does he shoot him or her?
He joins them.

President Bush has authorized the Joint Chiefs to begin drawing up a battle plan to pull France's ass out of the fire again. Facing an apparent overwhelming force of up to 400 pissed off teenagers Mr. Bush doubts France's ability to hold off the little pissants. "Hell, if the last two world wars are any indication, I would expect France to surrender any day now", said Bush.

Joint Chiefs head, Gen. Peter Pace, warned the President that it might be necessary to send up to 5 marines to get things under control. The general admitted that 5 marines may be overkill but he wanted to get this thing under control within 24 hours of arriving on scene. He stated he was having a hard time finding even one marine to help those ungrateful bastards out for a third time but thought that he could persuade a few women marines to do the job before they went on pregnancy leave.

President Bush asked Gen. Pace to get our marines out of there as soon as possible after order was restored. He also reminded Gen. Pace to make sure the marines did not take soap, razors, or deodorant with them.

Easier to blend in.

[Pamela aka Atlas]

Can't lie, joke number three had me laughing

Heard the 5 marines as a serious strategy last week, so it only garnered a chuckle.

he he

[monkyboy]

Remember, France haters and Saudi pals, France is supporting the U.S. with troops:

http://www.ambafrance-us.org/atoz/defense.asp

Isn't it treason to criticize those who are fighting terrorism?

[irishlad317]

Please, Monkeyboy, do elaborate on your criticism of the Saudis. They seem pretty two faced to me and I'd say that part of the war on islamofascism is definitely getting them to clamp down on, rather than support, Wahhabism, the madrasses, etc. They also need to step a little more firmly into the 21st century. Did you hear about the conviction of that teacher and what his sentence was? Sheesh.

So... Do tell!!! Criticize the Saudis to your heart's content!

[monkyboy]

It's nice to agree on something, Irish.

While the Saudi funding of radical Islamic schools around the world is troubling, it's their direct financial support of the terrorists that is the biggest threat to the U.S.

The Saudis spend a lot of money on propaganda that shapes America's opinion of them.

This site and many other "patriotic" sites spend an inordinate amount of time criticizing France, our allies in the war on terror.

Yet they are remarkably quiet about the true enemy, Saudi Arabia.

Curious indeedy...

[Cousin Dave]

Monkeyboy: When the day comes that we do take action against the Saudis, who will become the true enemy then? Just more liberal goalpost-moving. And, I'll note, totally off-topic for this thread. Oh, that's right, you *never* say anything that's on topic. And when did you suddenly decide that you love France so much? Maybe it was this morning, when the news came out that back in 2002, France was perfectly willing to join the Iraq war, provided that they would be allowed to partition the country and rule part of it as a colonial power, so that they could seize oil fields for TotalFinaElf (aside: why is it that when you hear libs blathering about world leaders and their "oil buddies", you never hear TotalFinaElf mentioned? Just asking), and/or destroy the evidence of the Oil-for-Food scandal and France's business dealings with Saddam. Yes, that's a fine position for a principled liberal to take. Sheesh.

[monkyboy]

Let's remember that the 9/11 attack that is ghoulishly pictured on this site continually was funded by a Saudi and carried out by Saudis.

If you could pan the camera in those tragic pictures, you would see the Statue of Liberty, a gift from France, the only country that's been our ally since 1776. Indeedy, we would not be a free country without France's help.

France offered support to us the day of the 9/11 attack and their troops went in with ours into Afghanistan and are still serving there today.

The Saudis are the main beneficiaries of our war in Iraq. They'd like to see Iran invaded, too.

You have to wonder about the motives of anyone who supports the Saudis, berates our allies the French, and pushes for the use of the U.S. military against the Saudis' enemies.

[Conservatus M]

Yeah, well, Monkyboy, two points here. First, that "idiot" Bush has a couple hundred thousand troops right near the Saudi border right now. Somehow, I don't think they're going to make any sudden moves in the near future. Nor will Iran, which is perhaps more of a threat than the Saudis or the Pakistanis, if that's possible. Second, France hasn't been our ally since Dominic de Villain double crossed Colin Powell at the U.N. In fact, if you recall, our asshole ally France was running around Africa in the before the U.N. vote on the Iraq war, actively working against us.

What an ally! As they say, leaving the French behind when going into battle is like forgetting your bagpipes.

[monkyboy]

The Saudis don't need to make "sudden moves."
They just keep supplying funds and soldiers to the Iraqi terrorists.

That makes them our allies?

The French continue to supply troops and funds to the war in Afghanistan.

That makes them our enemy?

The fringe right has a curious definition of loyalty...

[Conservatus M]

I never said the Saudis were our allies. I said that we were in a position to hurt them, fast, if need be. By the way, don't you think bin Laden CHOSE mostly Saudi hijackers to carry out the September 11 attacks? Could it have been that he actually had the foresight to do that just so nabobs over here would demand that we cut all ties with the Saudis? After all, what he really wants is to be the next Saladin, which means he wants to be the prince of all Arabia.

Just a thought. You gotta walk in the shoes of a megalomaniac here.

[Cousin Dave]

Okay, I want a re-vote. It's time to take Monkeyboy down. Why? Well, not only is he not adding anything to the discussion, not only does he persist in repeating things that have been shown conclusively to be false, but he has made this astoundingly ignorant statement:

"If you could pan the camera in those tragic pictures, you would see the Statue of Liberty, a gift from France, the only country that's been our ally since 1776."

Monkeyboy, if you knew a single bloody thing about American history, which you evidently don't, you'd know that France backed the Confederates in the U.S. Civil War. Their specific purpose in doing so was to break up the United States. How does that square with your statement quoted? Oh, that's right, the Saudis.

Folks, I'm as up for a good political debate as the next person, but I'm getting tired of having to wade through drivel from a commentor that obviously has a very loose grip on reality. Or, worse, just chooses to ignore everything that doesn't fit his pre-conceived notions. I've got better things to do.

[irishlad317]

I gotta say... the Saudis have a hell of a lot of work to do before we can call them "friends". Although, sometimes we do see some progress. I'd sure like to see a complete crackdown on their part of funding and the whole Wahhabism and madras thing.

I was trying to look for the bright side of France, remembering that their security services have done a few good things in the war on terror, and that they have participated in Afghanistan. I found an article from their embassy (,a href="URL">http://www.ambafrance-us.org/news/statmnts/2005/chirac_karzai100305.asp) regarding Afghanistan and France's support of the new government there. The article is interesting. Seems that the one country not mentioned as making a difference in the new Afghanistan is... wait for it... the USA!!!

"The general and regional elections of 18 September mark the end of the political transition process launched in 2001 at the Bonn-Petersberg Conference. Remarkable progress has been accomplished by Afghanistan in this framework, thanks to the efforts of a united international community alongside the Afghan people. Afghanistan and France welcome the remarkable work carried out by the United Nations Assistance Mission in Afghanistan (UNAMA) and by the International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) under NATO command."

So that's what pisses us off at France. Even when they help, they can't give us credit. Not giving us credit is one thing... but they also bad-mouth us, or undermine us in important ways, while behind the scenes they're hand in pocket with the enemy. They act superior, while their economy crumbles and their domestic problems obviously let us know that the "liberalism" of their ruling clique extends to welfare, but not to treating others as equals.

[irishlad317]

wooops... sorry for the bad link

[monkyboy]

Hehe, Cousin Dave, France "backed" the traitors in the south?

France didn't even recognize them diplomatically. France didn't provide the traitors with funds, soldiers or naval support. They did provide the water for the Alabama to be sunk in.

The British did build them ships, though...

[MarcH]

At 12:38 am, Monkeyboy said, “ Posts knocking France - 27, Posts knocking Saudi Arabia-1, Hmm”

Monkeyboy, this is not accurate. A quick review of the home page of this site shows an entire section, “Sinister Saudi Arabia, Home of Whabbism”, devoted to Saudi Arabia as a threat to the U.S. Two of the four posts in that section give particular critical attention to allegations of Saudi funding/propaganda in U.S. media and U.S. schools, a concern you advanced in your 2:33 pm comment. Other posts on this site also address the threat of Saudi Arabia, for example the laudatory review of Baat Yeor’s Eurabia. Finally, if an Atlas Shrugs reader wished they could easily access lots of other negative info on Saudis at the links featured in this site including, LGF, Jihad Watch, Counterterrorism Blog, Daniel Pipes, etc.

So what is your point? If Atlas gives slightly less attention to the Saudi front in the War on Islamo-Fascism than to other fronts, that’s an editorial decision. There is no attempt to hide the ball on the nature of the Saudi threat. While Atlas may not have wall-to-wall coverage on the Saudis, it’s available at the linked sites. Meanwhile, Atlas has great coverage on Iran’s descent to even greater radicalism, unique side-by- side comparisons of Iran’s depravity with Israel’s contributions to human progress, and some of the best U.S. based coverage on the recent events in France. The spectacle of France fiddling while Paris burns has been, to my mind, a pivotal event of 2005.

Monkeyboy, it’s my position that coverage of Saudi Arabia here is adequate and readers are provided with easy access to other resources to learn more about it. If you disagree and believe that there is some other agenda motive on the part of the editor please make your case.