Hizbullah Leader Meets with a US Presbyterian Delegation
5000 Islamic Clerics to be sent to the US: Iran's “Suicide Bomber” Ayatollah
The following are excerpts from a report of a meeting between Hizbullah's leader in South Lebanon, Nabil Qauq, and a delegation of Presbyterian Church:
Sheik Nabil Qauq : The American policy today is similar to an owl bringing bad tidings. All we hear from Bush are words of war, evil, destruction, killing, siege and threat. This aggressive inclination is a real danger to all monotheistic religions and it harms Christianity.
Elder Ronald Stone**: We treasure the precious words of Hizbullah and your expression of goodwill towards the American people. Also we praise your initiative for dialogue and mutual understanding. We cherish these statements that bring us closer to you. As an elder of our church, I'd like to say that according to my recent experience, relations and conversations with Islamic leaders are a lot easier than dealings and dialogue with Jewish leaders.
see MEMRI Video here
First of all, many Presbyterians are
using Christianity to cloak their antisemitism. As Jesus said, "By their acts
(words) ye shall know them" so we know them.
Because Christians can champion downtrodden peoples
all over the globe like those poor South African raped children, the
multimillion modern slaves in the Sudan and elsewhere, the starving in North
Korea, the Arab women suffering from severe sharia laws, but no, they focus on
the Palestinians. Why? It's not about the Palestinians, it's about sticking it
to who they hate or are jealous of, the Jews or Israel. Like American liberals
like Michael Moore...is it about the Jews or even the American downtrodden or
sticking it to "daddy" the Republican administration or Israel. These people are transparent because where do you
focus your limited energies?
Many of my readers are not Jewish. As a matter of fact I have found the staunchest defenders of Israel and the Jews to be Gentiles. This is not an attack on non Jews. It is an attack on the Presbyterian "leadership". They have made it their mission to destroy Israel, blackmailing business and academia (see Harvard piece).
UPDATE: "COMMENT OF THE DAY" [I know it's still early] SAYS IT ALL: Pamela, Sincerely,
Right you are! Well said.
Pastorius
CUANAS (Christians United Against the New
Anti-Semitism)










Aren't the Palistinians Semites?
How can supporting them be "anti-semitism?"
Posted by: monkyboy | Wednesday, November 23, 2005 at 02:15 AM
That's just semantics.
Nowadays by "anti-semite" most people understand anti jewish. While perhaps not linguistically correct, most people get the spirit of what is said.
It does seem that the presbyterian leadership is somewhat single minded in the causes they espouse. The fact is that these "chuchmen" are on a slippery slope to their moral undoing.
I'm glad that the latest Pope seems to be going down a very different path.
Deepdiver
Posted by: Deepdiver | Wednesday, November 23, 2005 at 03:03 AM
Thanks for the info, Deep.
I thought the term "Semite" referred to people who believed in religions based on the story of Abraham - Muslims, Christians and Jews.
Guess I'll have to update my lexicon...
Posted by: monkyboy | Wednesday, November 23, 2005 at 03:29 AM
Monkyboy,
One more like that and it's Planet of the Apes for you.
I mean it. One more and you're out.
Posted by: Pamela aka Atlas | Wednesday, November 23, 2005 at 03:29 AM
Sadly, the heart has gone out of many an old-line Christian church. A pervasive spirit of accommodation to the other -- first doctrinally, then in all practical ways -- has flowed from a perverse desire to be "inclusive" and "tolerant"...even of persons who hate us, categorically and without reservation, and want to see us destroyed root and branch.
The whole drive for "tolerance" was founded on the understanding that to impose oneself and one's preferences on others by force is the ultimate evil. It's the antithesis of "loving your neighbor as you love yourself." Tolerance, in that formulation, is beneficial, harmony-promoting, conducive to freedom. That this entirely wholesome ideal should have been transformed into a dictate that we accept and condone precisely that which it forbids to us, granting it a moral plane equal to that of Christ's teachings, is beyond irony, beyond parody, and beyond the possibility of endurance.
Posted by: Francis W. Porretto | Wednesday, November 23, 2005 at 04:14 AM
Bah, leave it to the presbyterians to give Christianity another black mark.
*shakes fist*
Posted by: Patriot Xeno | Wednesday, November 23, 2005 at 08:34 AM
The Presbyterian Church should answer why three Indonesian Christian girls were beheaded in Indonesia, about a week ago, while heading to church, by Islamofascists. They should answer for why they would make friendship with an Iranian backed terror organization.
This is the wacko Far Left (socialist) movement for you. Just remember, these folks also reject the teachings of the Bible, and support every liberal cause.
The Bible and Torah aren't suicide pacts for Christians or Jews.
Have these Religious Left leaders ever found a dictator or terrorist they didn't love: Stalin, the Sandinistas, Castro, Hizbullah, Arafat... the list goes on and on.
Tell me, what scripture would allow these folks to hate the Jews (Jesus was a Jew, don't forget... so was Moses, Paul, etc.) or support and enable a murderous cult like Islamofascism?
The Presbyterian Church has a history of Jew hating. We all know these Islamic fascists praise the Holocaust! We know that. What isn't as well known are incidents such as those after Kristallnacht, when John Inkster, a significant Canadian Presbyterian minister, blamed the Jews because they hadn't become Christians. Currently, they are part of a disinvestment movement, targeting pension fund investments in Israel. Yet, they side with the PA and Arafat!
This is the wacko Far Left (socialists and communists in religious garb) in action. Look and learn. It isn't Christians who you need to be concerned about... it is the world socialist movement, working through other organizations and media who are seeking to destroy Israel, and ultimately, the US.
Sam Basso
www.poochmaster.blogspot.com
Posted by: Sam Basso | Wednesday, November 23, 2005 at 08:35 AM
Pamela,
Right you are! Well said.
Sincerely,
Pastorius
CUANAS (Christians United Against the New Anti-Semitism)
Posted by: Pastorius | Wednesday, November 23, 2005 at 09:25 AM
I'd like to say that according to my recent experience, relations and conversations with Islamic leaders are a lot easier than dealings and dialogue with Jewish leaders.
Excuse me? Are you stupid or antisemitic, or both?
Posted by: E2M | Wednesday, November 23, 2005 at 01:26 PM
Monkyboy:
Gee, I always thought "Semite" meant to be the descendants of the patriarch Shem, from Genesis X, 21-30. That would seem to exclude the Philistines -- er, I mean Palestinians, who made it to the West Bank on boats, probably from the Greek islands.
This is the main reason why they are treated like dirt throughout the middle east by Arabs, who don't consider them real semites.
Posted by: C Max | Wednesday, November 23, 2005 at 02:24 PM
This is a classic example of my reasoning behind titling my blog Politics and / of Religion. Christianity could be exploring the Qumran and Nag Hammadi scrolls or considering the Gnostic Gospels, but so many religious leaders are just politicians who want 'divine' credibility.
Their interest in scripture and spiritual learning, if it ever existed, is long gone.
Posted by: Chip | Thursday, November 24, 2005 at 02:39 AM
Real Christians believe that the Jews are Gods chosen people.I consider myself a real christian, but I've never been to a christian church that accuratly reflects what I believe (The Bible)
Lance
Posted by: Lance Richards | Thursday, November 24, 2005 at 08:54 AM