Day 11 Paris: "We were attacked with pick axes. It was war."

Low Grade Radical Islamic-fascist War Breaks out In Europe
Tell the Goddamn Left in America to Get out of the Way

VIDEO HERE: Yelling Allah Akbar! Hat tip: Avary, LGF

Rioters attacked us with baseball bats," said Philippe Jofres, a deputy fire chief, told France-2 television. "We were attacked with pick axes. It was war."


The violence reached the well-guarded French capital Saturday night. 

Ten riot police were injured by buckshot in a clash in the southern Paris suburb of Grigny, national police spokesman Patrick Hamon said. It was unclear whether the officers were shot with hunting rifles or a less lethal weapon, he said. Two officers were hospitalized; their lives were not in danger.

Violence spreads to 300 towns. 369 arrested, 1200 detained (Fox news)
Overnight Sunday-Monday, at least 764 vehicles were burned, and police made 173 arrests, Hamon's office said. Slideshow: Youths Riot in Paris Suburbs Slideshow

Dhimmis Chirac said France was determined to promote "respect for all, justice and equal opportunities." Violence has been concentrated in poor suburbs with large immigrant populations. [oy, they stll don't get it? - Atlas]

In the city center, gasoline bombs damaged three cars near Place de la Republique. Residents reported a loud explosion and flames.

"We'll stop when Sarkozy steps down," said the defiant 17-year-old driver, identifying himself as Murat. He and several others were in police custody as smoke poured from the windows of the housing project behind them. [if Sarkozy steps down, France is fini.-If they are to have any shot at all, the worst thing they could do was have the "insurgents" dictate who runs the goverment. Isuggest LAND FOR PEACE! - Atlas]

[ UPDATE 10:48 am
Oh my g-d! when I used the word Insurgents, I was was being sarcastic, I JUST HEARD A FRENCH REPORTER USE IT on FOX! -Atlas]

Arsonists burned 1,295 vehicles nationwide overnight Saturday and the discovery of a gasoline bomb-making factory in a derelict building in Evry south of Paris Saturday night, said senior Justice Ministry official Jean-Marie Huet, shows that gasoline bombs "are not being improvised by kids in their bathrooms."

Good Morning America how are ya?

UPDATE: NOVEMBER 11th

LET ME BEGIN WITH A simple sentence that, even as I write it, appears less than Swiftian in the modesty of its proposal: "Prison conditions at Abu Ghraib have improved markedly and dramatically since the arrival of Coalition troops in Baghdad."
Christopher Hitchens, Weekly Standard

While the left continues to berate the President over an outing of a CIA "spy" that never happened and the rumors on torture of al qaida (even in Panama this morning), the Islamofascist war spreads across Europe and violence continues into the 12th night in France;

Germany
"Five cars were put on fire in the Moabit neighborhood of downtown Berlin during Saturday night. The night before several cars were burned together with an empty warehouse in Bremen in northern Germany. The police fear that the pattern from the riots in France will spread to poor neighborhoods in Germany." Hat tip Expat Swede

Belgium
Police in Belgium now say a  attacks have occurred in Brussels, where five cars were set on fire.

Denmark
Further, a masked Muslim man in Denmark said: “This is our area. We rule this place.” Rocks and firebombs are being thrown in Danish neighborhoods, as Muslims in France continue their violent march into the heart of Paris.

According to both French and Danish officials, it is beginning to strongly appear that these insurrections are both coordinated and planned, in attempts take down both governments. The fear of many is that the Muslims’ insurrections will continue to occur throughout Europe.
Successive nights of riots have rocked parts of Århus, the second largest city in Denmark. Little to nothing has appeared in the English language press about the second front in the Eurabian intifada. Århus is home to an excellent Danish university, and is a place where I have spent some time. It is usually spelled “Aarhus” in English. 

Fortunately, Hendrik, The Viking Observer, has translated in his blog a press account from Jyllands-Posten, a Danish newspaper which has been the target of Muslim protests for publishing drawings of the prophet Muhammad...

Russia
There are now probably 24 million Muslims among 143 million people in the Russian Federation alone. Between 500,000 and 1 million are radicals, "followers of sects of Islamic origin who call for the physical destruction of all who disagree and the overthrow of the existing system by force." The government's "lack of a clearly defined and agreed-upon policy on how best to deal with the Muslims" has seriously exacerbated inter-ethnic relations

UPDATE: Regarding my query to the Jewish Quarter in PARIS

It’s business as usual,” Samy Ghozlan, head of the anti-Semitism vigilance bureau told EJP. “These communities are used to these daily assaults. It’s worrisome, but we fear the worst is still to come.”

“Now that the media decided to reduce coverage of the riots, the thugs may intensify the violence against the Jews, to regain media attention," he added.

French authorities advised Jewish security officials not to publicize their fears, as such declarations could encourage rioters to attack Jews and Jewish community buildings.  .........

Hat tip: Tom P via Jihadwatch via  YNET news 

 

Comments

[cwb]

Dont you know me I'm your native son.

[Psydoc]

Thats odd, the French haven't found a way to blame the Jews yet.

[monkyboy]

I hear Chirac said, "You're doing a heck of a job, Sarkie."

[wxjames]

Now, I want everybody to calm down and make a list of grievances.
I believe the word artillery is a French word, no ? Well then USE IT !

[Sam Basso]

“French government officials said they would announce a plan Monday for combating the violence and its root causes of high unemployment, poverty and discrimination in the poor communities where the violence is concentrated.” -- WA Post 11/7/2005

Do you really believe that those in power in France, who got their country into the mess it is in, can now do a “180” and lead France out? No way. The “root cause” is the socialist politicians they have in power who have erected another failed socialist state. Even the socialist sympathizers here in the US don’t have the solution, so this kind of thing isn’t just a French phenomenon. I wonder if African Americans are going to start resenting the wacko Leftwing media who are portraying the rioters in France as “African immigrants”, to avoid saying the rioters are Muslim, the Iranians are probably behind the rioting as an intimidation tactic to derail the drive to stop their nuclear ambitions, the French leaders are corrupt and incompetent, the problem rests solely on the shoulders of the socialists, and that race has nothing to do with what is going on there. Leftists will always lie about the “root cause” of a social problem, when the problem is the Leftists!

[Expat Swede]

A brief note in a Swedish newspaper:

"Five cars were put on fire in the Moabit neighborhood of downtown Berlin during Saturday night. The night before several cars were burned together with an empty warehouse in Bremen in northern Germany. The police fear that the pattern from the riots in France will spread to poor neighborhoods in Germany."

So much for the welfare appeasement states in Europe...

[elvis]

Hello, France? Could you hold for a moment?
(...like about 18 months.)

[Craig]

Sarkozy calling the rioters- Scum. Outstanding!

...Wake up Chirac, and smell the cafe-au-lait.

[WB]

Send in Jimmy Carter and Jerry Lewis, since the French like them so much. Maybe they can help them out of this mess...

Hard for me to feel sorry for the French after all the US-Bashing they've done to us.

Superior to the US? Not hardly...

[Gabriel]

Expat Swede do you have your own blog? If so then please tell me the adress I would love to read it.

[david keener]

How long will it be before the French demand help from the U.S.A.? And have the libs blamed
Bush yet?

[Expat Swede]

"And have the libs blamed Bush yet?"

Great point, David! It is coming, rest assure!

[rb]

Remember India? France partitioned within the decade?

Could that be the long-range strategic goal?

http://frontpage.americandaughter.com/?p=85

[jaybird]

I'm the train they call the City of New Orleans

[Jack]

And all this started when the "youts" broke the law and got themselves killed breaking another law. It's against "Federal Law" to break and enter into an electrical substation ... in the US.

Maybe not in France ... they are French after all.

[Aaron's cc:]

Andalusia reborn with a neo-Moorish Spain and France?

Ask a Muslim what ISN'T Dar Al Harb.

You won't get a straight answer.

[Dave Robbins]

The patterns of violence will spread because the rage is being directed by those who want to exploit the Eurabian Muslims much in the same way the Palestinians have been manipulated for the past 60 years.

How much longer will these last, and will we there be stability, or will we continue to hear about violent outbreaks for the next 20 - 30 years? Doesn't look good.

[Conservatus M]

Hey Monkyboy:

Still waiting to hear about the liberal plan to defeat Islamic terrorism.

By the way, Sarkozy didn't call the rioters "scum". He referred to them in French using a word more closely meaning "rabble" or "mob," which can be translated as "scum," and the media jumped on it.

Since Sarkozy is probably Chirac's chief rival as France's leader, and the press in France is no different than it is here about law and order types, it's doesn't take much imagination to imagine what they are saying about Sarkozy. If I were a cynic, I might even think that the rioters who keep talking about Sarkozy might -- 'er, be trying to influence the upcoming elections.

If France believes more social programs -- or banning headscarves, for that matter -- are going to solve its Muslim problems, I've got some swamp land I want to sell them.

[monkyboy]

Sorry to disappoint you, CM, but I'm not a liberal.

Think of me as the voice of consevatism past. I support balanced budgets, states rights, avoiding unnecessary foreign entanglements and keeping religion out of government.

I'm not sure what the French should do.

Should they take the hard line Israeli path? Let's not forget Israel is coming on on 60 years of near-continuous religious war.

Should they follow the Republican methods of secret prisons, torture, murder and a lax attitude to civilian deaths? We're coming up on 3 years of war in Iraq and things are far worse there than they are in France.

I would say the French should be in no hurry to following Israel and the U.S. into a perpetual war with the Muslims that only enriches right-wing political supporters and the Mullahs who funnel oil money to the terrorists.

Engagement and dialog with the leaders of Islamic France coupled with arrest and prosecution of anyone caught breaking the law seems like a good short term plan to me.

No hurry stepping on the endless war merry-go-round...it will always be there.

[penxv]

- The leftists will say that these riots are because of poverty and not religion, and they may be right. But it is irrelevant.
- The conditions in France are such that an opportunistic terrorist could come in and arm those kids to the teeth.
- If the French respond with weakness (and I think that they will) they are in big trouble.

- I'm not yet convinced of the intelligence of the terrorists, but if a brain ever gets to the top of that maggot heap. France is gone and Europe is in for a fight.

[observer]

Wow, a site where all the content and most of the comments are nonsensical tripe. Impressive.

[Conservatus M]

Monkyboy

"Should they follow the Republican methods of secret prisons, torture, murder and a lax attitude to civilian deaths? We're coming up on 3 years of war in Iraq and things are far worse there than they are in France."

Yeh, right. Secret prisons, torture? Please. Abu Ghraib was more like hazing, to me. There have been selective prosecutions when soldiers or Marines have gone too far. But there's been no pattern of torture, at least not what used to be considered torture before liberals moved the goal posts back about fifty yards.

Speaking of that, why is it that liberals always want our intelligence services to get tough in order to prevent terrorist attacks; then crucify them when they try? I guess the answer is because, if it ain't Bush bashing, it ain't news. As a Turkish general once remarked about America, we aren't a good ally, because you never know when we're going to turn around and stab ourselves in the back.

A lax attitude toward civilian deaths? Please, both the US and Israel have missiles that have been proven, thankfully, to be able take out something as small as a wheelchair -- only to be accused of "targeted assassinations". Let's see, we can't shoot at them because they're hiding behind women and children, and we can't shoot at their leaders, because that's assassination. Hmmm. Perhaps the only thing left is the UN solution: the dreaded "strongly worded letter."

Further, even with the insane suicide bombings and the grossly inflated "estimate" of civilian deaths kicked off by the bogus Lancet article last year, this war has resulted in less loss of civilian life than many previous wars would have -- on both sides.

Funny you should mention things being better in Paris than in Iraq. If that's true, then why aren't the Iraqis out rioting against the US every single f'ing night? They've staged violent demonstrations before and we haven't prevented them from doing so. So why is the rioting happening in Paris; but not in Baghdad? That's a question worth asking.

And do me a favor, don't label me right wing. You're no moderate. I'M a freakin' moderate -- at least I used to be before the spineless left threw in its lot with terrorists and caused people like you to start considering themselves moderate.

It's not "right wing" to want secure borders. Protecting the borders is one of the most basic functions of government.

It's not "right wing" to support a President who -- in response to an attack that killed more Americans than Pearl Harbor -- carried on our stated policy of regime change in Iraq, by changing it. Defending the country is another of the basic functions of a government. It also leaves us in the position, strategically, of dominating the entire middle east, which is just where I think we ought to be right now.

Nor is it "right wing" to speak honestly about all of these things, just because -- in the words of Clint Eastwood -- some asshole might get offended.

Dialogue has been tried with Islamists ad nauseam. It doesn't work because, like Hitler or Tojo and the Japanese militarists, or Mao, or Stalin, or Castro, they don't care. French Muslims want semi-autonomy. That's their demand -- for now. The next step will be designating entire areas of Europe as "Muslim land" and demanding complete autonomy, and a return to Andalusia. This IS about LEBENSRAUM, after all.

Either France is going to let that happen, or it isn't; but the French shouldn't pretend that's not what's coming, or fret about their failed social programs. None of the countries of origin offer the same treatment to any westerner or Jew. Instead, you get the back of their hand.

Once again, how do you engage in "dialogue" with someone who has been raised to hate you and wants to kill you? You haven't answered that question.

The only liberal answer is more self-flagellation, taxes, government programs, and complaining about the heartlessness of conservatives. That might work with people who are worried about money. It won't work with people driven by religion and ideology.

[Craig]

Observer speaks..."Wow, a site where all the content and most of the comments are nonsensical tripe. Impressive."

"Wow?"

You start with a 3 letter palindrome a child would use- only to call the comments here nonsensical? Observer fits you, erudite doesn't.

[MarcH]

Hello Monkeyboy,

I see you didn’t answer my two questions for you on the 11/5/05 “No Schadenfreude for Paris” thread. That’s ok. I have a few questions for you based on your comments tonight.
1. You criticized Israel for taking a “hard line” path which resulted in “60 years of near-continuous religious war”. At what point did the Arabs demonstrate a commitment to peaceful co-existence and give the Israelis an option besides fighting for their survival?
2. You made non-specific condemnations of U.S. counter-terror activity, including what you refer to as “secret prisons”and “torture”. I assume you’re referring to confidential programs to question hardened terrorists. It’s my opinion that such activity is necessary but should be conducted with strict guidelines and supervision. What are the Monkeyboy techniques for extracting information from such terrorist prisoners? Perhaps you’d recommend immediate appointment of an ACLU attorney, three ethnically correct meals a day, and an appointment with 60 minutes?
3. You finally recommend “(E)ngagement and dialog with the leaders of Islamic France” as your first technique of choice (I assume that means that you at least agree that they are behind L’Intifada?). You then (grudgingly?) also recommend "arrest and prosecution of anyone caught breaking the law". Please describe for me how Officer Monkeyboy would go about catching these people. From a tactical law enforcement perspective the crime problem is a bit more complicated than ... oh let’s say .. littering on a State University campus, don’t you agree?

Looking forward to hearing from you!

[Reality Gaps]

Now it should be apparent to everyone that Eurabia is not just some far-out right-wing fantasy...

Great blog, I just added you to my blogroll...

[monkyboy]

Sorry I didn't see your further comments in that thread, MarcH.

1. I don't know that I was critical of Israel. I don't feel it's my place to criticize the actions they have taken. I just pointed out the results of those actions.

2. It's unlikely we have learned anything from torture that would justify the loss of support such actions cause at home, in Iraq, and internationally. It's not like these guys are walking around with the plans for D-ay in their pocket.

3. As far as France goes, we'll see. The far right usually claims that no prominent Muslims condemn the radical's actions, but in France today, we get this:

France's biggest Muslim fundamentalist organization, the Union for Islamic Organizations of France, issued a religious decree against the violence. It prohibited all those "who seek divine grace from taking part in any action that blindly strikes private or public property or can harm others."

If the riots die down in France without the use of extreme measures, score one for the "liberals." If France has to "fix bayonets," welcome to the party, Frenchie.

There are 1,000,000,000 Muslims in the world.

The gore counter on this site stands at 3216 terrorist attacks since 9/11.

That's about 1 attack per 330,000 Muslims.

I guess whether you see all Muslims as terrorists or not depends on your politics... or where your paycheck comes from.

[Conservatus M]

There are MORE than 1,000,000,000 people currently upset with the Muslims in the world -- even if only one in a thousand, say a mere million of them -- are terrorists. That includes Jews (the ones they love to hate), Christians, Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists, Taoists, Zoarastrians, Copts, shintos, agnostics, atheists, gays, lesbians, Maoists, socialists and communists (who continue to kiss up to them anyhow), and any non-Muslim not covered by the above list.

I'm still waiting to hear the liberal plan for "engaging" those whose desire is to kill us AND die trying. Any?

[Sizzle]

The Islamic radicals are using France as a staging area to gauge the effectiveness of civil disobedience to see how well it may suit their global revolution.
France is a great initial target. It is run by sympathetic cowards that will not speak a bad word because they fear the results. They are also deep into corruption with the Islamics and fear severing those ties. Basically, the Islamics already own France due to Frances greed and its fear.
Now in gauging the effectiveness of civil disobedience we should look at reasons other than France is easy pickings. One being France has the third largest global population of Jews. The North African countries that the immigrant revolutionaries come from were once colonies of Frances imperialism. The socialist ghetto France keeps the immigrants in relieves the citizens of any hope for a future. And as Hitler sprung the 3rd Reich on hopeless citizens of Germany the mullahs are doing the same with the French immigrants.
Germany has many Islamics, but there Islamic population is mostly Turkish as compared to Frances North African population. And that may be a different breed. But consider also that the German Police will beat you senseless and question you when you recover make that country a little more difficult to crack.
Europe will not likely burn in the first round, but Paris and France are going to take one hell of a beating. And hey, think about it, these folks refused to support the US in the war on terror, they think being nice to terrorists and they will leave you alone. Duh, guess that didn’t work. Fools deserve to burn.

[monkyboy]

France has refused to support the US in the war on terror, Sizzle?

That will come as a big surprise to the French fighter pilots and Special Forces soldiers currently serving in Afghanistan.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,167323,00.html

[jamal]

yawn. More islamaphobic dribble!

[Vladimirpoetin]

Haha..

What has this to do with the war on terrorism? LOL??

Americans don't understand Europe and Europeans don't understand Americans.

This is made clear again with this post.

[Expat Swede]

Jamal,

Please explain.

[lowandslow]

Did someone forget to shut the door? I think we have a troll infestation.

[V the K]

MarcH --- I see monkybrain has completely avoided answering your questions. You asked him what his solutions were. And he failed to offer any. Basically, what he said amounts to, "I don't have any stinking solutions! I just want to bitch about people who dare to confront the reality of Islamist aggression because it makes me feel self-righteous."

[Craig]

"There are 1,000,000,000 Muslims in the world. The gore counter on this site stands at 3216 terrorist attacks since 9/11. That's about 1 attack per 330,000 Muslims."

MonkyBoy,
Are you stuck on stupid? This is typical moral equivalent..."everything's related" BS.

The bottom line is this: The rest of the world doesn't kidnap innocent people, behead them, and then send a tape of it to the Neville Chamberlain Broadcast Company to show on the 8 o'clock news.

Continue to defend a group who willingly behead 15 year old girls and enjoy blowing up small children.