Wag the Dog

A Liberal Hawk asks the following;

I'm just  wondering.  There's been so much talk lately, some of it  media  generated of course, but apparently not all of it, about  falling  poll numbers in terms of support for Iraq, do you all agree  with  that, or think it is media late summer contrivance -- a way to  wrack  up a conversation.

To which I respond;

Having a background in strategic planning and marketing, I can tell you first hand that you can make numbers (poll, focus groups et al) say  anything you want them to.

Me? I think it's a lie. It is the MO of the left, to make a lie become  a truth.

It seems to me that the left continues to dictate the national agenda.  Exit strategy? It's all they talk about. And common sense tells you that would  be the  worst, the very worst thing America could do. A timetable for departure is dangerous. Dangerous, because challenging Bush to agree to a timetable only emboldens Jihadis, who would very much like to move the frontlines of this Long War from their turf to ours.

The fierce opposition in Iraq is proof positive that this war was
1) a long time coming
2) formenting for years
3) foisted upon us
4) global, intra national in its very nature
5) so much more than WMDs
6) bloody, barbaric - a fight to the death .

The ferocity of the opposition in Iraq is evidence we are doing  right thing, the only thing, to loosen the  deathgrip Radical  Islam has spent decades building (and Western civilaztion ignoring) in  that region..

I do not believe those polls for one second . Nor do I believe in  this anti-war movement. Why Sheehan, why now? With all the greiving parents  across this great nation, why her? Why full court press? It is theater,  deliberately manufactured  to create the impression of an anti-war  movement. So that people in a herd society follow along (remember that soda  commercial - "I'm a Pepper, You're a Pepper, He's a Pepper, She's a Pepper,  Wouldn't you like to be  a Pepper too? Dr.  Pepper.........Driiiiiiiiiiiiiiink Dr Pepper).or "Be part of the Pepsi Generation"
It's the same thing, marketing their agenda............and without the  blogosphere, it works (see Vietnam War - remember we didn't lose one battle in Vietnam, just the war).

There is not one country that opposed our going into Iraq that was not robbing Oil for Food blind. Not one. But the left continues to harp on getting the backing of the "international community", while belittling the coalition and other countries that stand with us. Who wants the backing of thugs, bloodsuckers, and theives that steal off the backs of Iraqi women and children all the while accusing the US of "killing Iraqi children" vis a vis the sanctions against Saddam Hussein.

Just take a look at s MORE GREAT NEWS FROM IRAQ (that you'll never hear from the MSM)

Much thanks to Chrenkoff (part 33 in the series, that means there are 32 priors, another thing I bet you didn't know).

Comments

[LC Mamapajamas]

Just wandered in from the Surf...

Excellent comments :). I especially liked:

I can tell you first hand that you can make numbers (poll, focus groups et al) say anything you want them to.

This is SO true! In fact, when poll questions are broken down a bit more and made more specific, it turns out that 67% of the people think we should run a more agressive war! Their big problem with the way the war is going is the PC. I seem to recall that this was in a recent Rasmussen poll.

[Iceman 1955]

Pamela, You are right on target with this posting. Polling is not a science it has evolved into an art. Frame the question in a way to get the results you want and then ask it to the target group most likely to answer the way you want. Just think about the exit poll nonsense in the recent Presidential election.

You are also 100% right about the fierce opposition in Iraq being proof that this was was a lont time coming. Plus all the other reasons you site. The west has ignored these radical Islamists for way to long and now are having to deal with them. The US ignored bin Laden in the mid 90s when he "declared" war on the United States. Cindy Sheehan and the rest of the moonbats still ignore that declaration too. They still claim this is a war for oil. Gee, if it is why are we paying close to $3.00 a gallon for gas?

[chroniker]

My dad, the liberal that he is, has a saying, "Figures lie and liers figure"

[madawaskan]

"There is only one decisive battle-the last."

Clausewitz

O/T-but I see you might be as floored by Steven Vincent as i was after i found this comment of his posted at the Belmont Club-such a shame to lose a man who somehow comprehended the role chauvinism plays in oppressive unpeaceful societies and cultures.

Here is the quote-

"From Front Page Magazine-Steven Vincent in his own words-

“As I’ve noted here and elsewhere, suppression of the feminine—whether it be feminine sexuality, freedom or laughter—is the foundation upon which the death-cult of Islamofascism rests. Undermine that foundation, and the entire edifice, from al-Sadr to Zarqawi to bin Laden will collapse.

But for the West to encourage such an event, we must overcome our own fears of liberated women. By that I mean, the Left must discard a multicultural mindset that refuses to use Western standards to criticize other cultures, even when Western values—such as feminism–are clearly more beneficial to those cultures. As I describe in my book, one afternoon in Baghdad I listened to a group of Western anti-war activists complain that the American invasion of Iraq was an imperialistic attempt to crush the country’s native culture. When I suggested that some aspect of this “native culture” should be crushed—like forcing women to wear black sacks in blistering summer weather—one of the activists looked at me with a shocked expression. “But feminism has brought such destruction to the American family, do we want to wish that on Iraq?” And she was no post-feminist youngster, but a woman from the anti-Vietnam War days!”

“You have hit bingo here my friend. Fighting for feminism under Islamism, in my view, is like fighting for private property and freedom of speech under communism, or fighting for equality for Jews under Nazism. Once Gorbachev initiated Glasnost and Perestroika, he destroyed the very system he was trying to save. If a potential Nazi system started letting Jews into the political process, Nazism would cease to be what it is supposed to be overnight. Once gender equality infiltrates and assimilates within Islam, it will no longer be Islam.”

“But the Right has to bite some bullets, too. Let’s face it: many of us prescribe for Iraq the very measures that conservatives detest about the 1960s—particularly when it comes to feminism, sexual freedom and rejection of patriarchal authority. So the Right—especially those on the religious right—have to accept the fact that once you let the feminine genie out of the bottle, the results are unpredictable and not always to a conservative’s liking. That means here in America, as well.

Communists, libertarians, leftists, neo-cons, Christian evangelists, Hollywood celebrities and NASCAR Americans ought to be able to rally at least one point: women must be free in the Islamic Middle East. It’s an issue that combines visionary idealism with hard-nosed, America-first realism.”